From what I have read, due to the configuration of the engine and it's placement in the bay, there's no room to fit a turbo.
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^ correct. Go find engine bay pics. It is PACKED. The exhaust is just as tight.
The only way to fit the plumbing would be removal or relocation of quite a bit. People will do the former, the factory can't. The factory may do the later, people probably can't. |
I do not think there were any pics of the engine bay of the STi concept but I doubt it would come without a turbo. Also TRD is working on a supercharger.
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Agreed, not saying it's impossible, but to get it to fit, they woulđ need to relocate a bunch. A taller hood would probably give the S/C clearance needed.
Lots of pics of basically everything: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2461 |
IMO, I think the pricing is fare give it a few years and the market will find a way to stuff a turbo in there. Looks are good, not my fav but whatever, +1 on the Japanese combo. Much better than the Eagle Talon Mitsu Eclipse days! Can't wait to see how it performs once tuned.
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I've found that right hand corner cones don't count against you, so i don't need to see them anyway... |
Originally Posted by Spin9k
(Post 4137224)
Right now it's just a new car beauty contest. I like it, I don't like it. However, the aim of producing a fun, affordable, tuneable sports car platform similar to the MX-5, or late RX-8, and others - has come into being. Who would argue that's a bad target? I want more people to buy sports cars. That way we'll get more of them!
Although a small sample, fans agree on the aim http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2295 |
Just in case nobody has been reading the news, Subaru has a 270hp turbo version of FA20 that's planned to go in the WRX. I think that a turbo FR-S is a real possibility.
270hp in a sub 2700lb car... could be very cool. http://wot.motortrend.com/breaking-n...hp-143875.html |
Originally Posted by LifeAfterRx8
(Post 4137467)
It needs a drop... bad
This is also one of those cars where I can see massive dealer markups when they first come out. |
I'm going to consider purchasing one when they appear. Probably the Scion version due to the mouth guard the Subaru has on the front bumper, but I'm not 100%.
I still have an 8 and just bought a Veloster, which I'm not too keen to. So, I'll end up trading the V in most likely. Scion added it to their website with the different color options. Most likely grab a white or orange. |
If Mazda could put a new rotary with a legit 250hp in a lightweight car like the FRS or BRZ and bring it in under 30k loaded, now would be the perfect time to bring it out. It would instantly take out the Scion and Subaru in performance and grab market share. The trend is going towards smaller, lightweight sports cars to comply with CAFE standards going forward. Mazda is better off going this route rather than trying to chase cars like the Z and Genny Coupe in performance with a rotary engine.
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Originally Posted by 77mjd
(Post 4185823)
If Mazda could put a new rotary with a legit 250hp in a lightweight car like the FRS or BRZ and bring it in under 30k loaded, now would be the perfect time to bring it out. It would instantly take out the Scion and Subaru in performance and grab market share. The trend is going towards smaller, lightweight sports cars to comply with CAFE standards going forward. Mazda is better off going this route rather than trying to chase cars like the Z and Genny Coupe in performance with a rotary engine.
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remote turbo. stick it in the back end
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
(Post 4185983)
I don't think it would, man. I wouldn't drop the possibility of purchasing a BRZ or FRS if Mazda came out with something like that, and I consider myself the target market for these cars. Also, Mazda hasn't even proven they can develop a CAFE friendly rotary yet.
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Japanese AD..., a sort of "father and son JDM " ;)
there is a translation under the video window http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=QjWaz4M4qy8 |
For the price and performance, I would almost think you'd be better off buying a used '09-'11 RX8 than the BRZ or FR-S. I would think the 8 would outperform the other 2, their main advantage being way better mpg, plus I'll guarantee you'll be paying sticker on the Subaru at first...not worth it, IMO.
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For that kind of money, if I were buying new, I think would get a 2013 Genesis with the 274hp 2.0T.
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
(Post 4141317)
Just in case nobody has been reading the news, Subaru has a 270hp turbo version of FA20 that's planned to go in the WRX. I think that a turbo FR-S is a real possibility.
270hp in a sub 2700lb car... could be very cool. http://wot.motortrend.com/breaking-n...hp-143875.html |
Originally Posted by smithe68
(Post 4198802)
For that kind of money, if I were buying new, I think would get a 2013 Genesis with the 274hp 2.0T.
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I'd prefer a Mazda 3 RWD coupe with a rotary and they rename it RX3 ;)
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Ill take the manual roll down your window option.
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I've been more serious and calling around for details. Most of the dealerships are asking between $500 and $1000 for non-refundable deposits. They still don't have pricing set, but you have to order exactly the car you want, and they build it. Believe it or not, the dealerships for the most part aren't charging over MSRP. The Subaru dealerships are typically getting between 4 and 15 BRZ's for the entire year. The one local to me is getting 8 total, and has 2 spots left for the pre-order. They opened up the pre-orders on March 1.
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Originally Posted by YaXMaN
(Post 4203614)
I've been more serious and calling around for details. Most of the dealerships are asking between $500 and $1000 for non-refundable deposits. They still don't have pricing set, but you have to order exactly the car you want, and they build it. Believe it or not, the dealerships for the most part aren't charging over MSRP. The Subaru dealerships are typically getting between 4 and 15 BRZ's for the entire year. The one local to me is getting 8 total, and has 2 spots left for the pre-order. They opened up the pre-orders on March 1.
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