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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Totally agree with the story...it is just bloody silly to change every 3000 miles or less..in a banger.

Rotary (IMO) is different, around the 3000 miles is better....because you never get all the old oil out....and BTW, my Renny 2 with EMOP's still only takes 1 litre of oil every 5000 KMS (3000 miles) after nearly 50,000 KMS, so that is 15% of the original oil is renewed by top off over a 3000 miles change....Keep in mind it has 7 litres of Oil in a Renny 2, a little less in a Renny 1.

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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BTW...What is it..all these Mazda men here DRIVING TOYOTA's!!!!..

You should be ashamed of yourselves!...
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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Hey I got a Toyota turbo diesel Landcruiser as a daily driver, plus to tow my trailer with the 8 to the track and transport cargo from warehouse to warehouse. lol 80000 miles no rebuild and still runs as strong as ever :D Gotta love diesels <--- change my oil in this one every 5000 miles. Air filter at 2000 because of the very dusty roads and offroad forest trips
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
BTW...What is it..all these Mazda men here DRIVING TOYOTA's!!!!..

You should be ashamed of yourselves!...
You should celebrate what my brother did with his Toyota...and be happy he does not own a Mazda.

Ken
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ken-x8
Their web site also gives the "normal" change interval, rather than the "extreme condition" interval. Most driving includes enough short trips and stop-and-go that extreme is usually applicable.
Exactly. And "Driving in extreme heat (above 90°)" is also considered "Severe conditions", which is basically every single day here in Florida, not counting December - February.

Frequent driving at 8000RPM is probably "Severe conditions" too
I'm sticking to my 3000 interval!
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I change mine more than I change my underwear.

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryTherapy
....... Air filter at 2000 because of the very dusty roads and offroad forest trips
What have you got growing in the forest.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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i change oil often too, so i can have my engine last longer , spend that $50 every other month is better than spend $3000 on replacing the engine sooner, lol
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bse50
I change my beater's oil every 8-10K miles. Never had a problem with that and I think that any sooner would be overkill.
On a hard driven car with a high revving engine I would never do that though. Instead of trying to categorize people they should spend time teaching them that any engine and car use has its requirements.
with modern Synthetic, 8-10K is acceptable. hell even some "good" dino juice is up to that task ...

some Synthetic "recommend" 15K interval ... like the Mobil1 extended.

Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I change mine more than I change my underwear.


why would anyone wanna sit in your 8 ... I know I wouldn't ... and the driver's seat must smell real nice

Originally Posted by RIWWP
My Miata burns a quart every 300 miles, and has a 3.8 quart capacity.

So I change the oil about every 1,200 miles, and I don't even have to worry about what to do with used oil!


That much ? u track ur miata ?

Originally Posted by rotarygod
My Daily driver 2011 Camry gets 10K miles oil changes. My last daily driver was a Civic that hit 200K miles. It went 5K between oil changes. Both cars just use whatever the dealer recommended and it works fine. Toyota runs all synthetics now.
yeah, Toyota is going longer oil change interval, Synthetic got a lot better these days and Toyota wanna show the world that "look, our cars are outstanding, not just reliable, we also lower your TOC! (Total Ownership Cost)"

On rotaries I'll go somewhere between 3K-5K depending on my mood. You need to add oil in there anyways so there is always some fresh oil. I only use synthetic there too.
The Rotary Anti-Synthetic **** Group gonna get u soon ...

Originally Posted by Roidz24
I remember when you were looking for suggestions on a new dd. I recommended the Sonata cause I was looking at one as well. So you got the Sonata Hybrid? How you likin it? I got the Limited and liking it so far.
It drives fine as DD, hell everybody who sat in my car (I use it for picking up clients) said it's much nicer than Camry.

it's mpg is nowhere as good as the EPA rating tho, probably bcuz NYC is one of the worst place for driving. I get around 28 mpg in **** poor NYC traffic. Not as punchy as the 2.0 limited and 2.0 T that I test drove. well forget about the turbo cuz it's no match but even the non-turbo vs hybrid the Hybrid is slower, it has another 300-400 lbs of battery + Hybrid motor and other related crap.

Back on topic though. I think it depends on your driving habits. I've changed my oil after 1,000 miles in some of my cars because I didn't drive it enough and 1,000 miles was a years worth of driving and I just felt it was time to have the oil changed if it was sitting all winter and not driven a lot during the year.
I don't drive my 8 as much since I start working again. I changed my oil b4 Winter. and it hasn't move since. will change it again when summer comes.

Originally Posted by ken-x8
California is not thinking of the cost to car owners. They're focused on how much used oil needs to be disposed of.
u mean they focused on how MUCH they need to spend to get rid of all those oil.

Their web site also gives the "normal" change interval, rather than the "extreme condition" interval. Most driving includes enough short trips and stop-and-go that extreme is usually applicable. Same California mentality that, at one time, required cars to be modified to retard the ignition timing from factory specs.

Ken
lol. California and their ridiculous "fake" go green movement ...

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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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We own RX-8's, possibly the most UN-environmentally friendly car on the road today. Given the poor premium gas mileage, CO2 emissions, oil consumption and drivers lead feet to hear the beep...

We're doing our part, let's keep the economy going guys!
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by philipchan
i change oil often too, so i can have my engine last longer , spend that $50 every other month is better than spend $3000 on replacing the engine sooner, lol
It's solid logic. I used to change mine every 2-3k but now I drive 2-3k miles a month and so I'm down to about every 5k miles now.

Using that rotary tested and approved royal purple synthetic. Sorry mineral oil lovers but I use the good stuff.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Are-Ex-Eight
We own RX-8's, possibly the most UN-environmentally friendly car on the road today.
I think the 8 is pretty green. Think of all the con-rod forests that are still standing because we don't need them. All of the wild camshafts that have not been hunted and trapped.

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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Don't they recycle the oil? In a brand new car I wouldn't change it so often but I'd probably like to change the oil filter more often than that.
...I change mine regularly and use spent oil for the winter beater's oil change and my oil can drippers.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Are-Ex-Eight
We own RX-8's, possibly the most UN-environmentally friendly car on the road today. Given the poor premium gas mileage, CO2 emissions, oil consumption and drivers lead feet to hear the beep...

We're doing our part, let's keep the economy going guys!
There are too few of us to have any significant environmental impact, I suspect.
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 02:05 AM
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who here has ever proven that a short vs long oil change schedule makes any difference?

you might as well be discussing whether or not God really exists ....
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Totally agree with the story...it is just bloody silly to change every 3000 miles or less..in a banger.

Rotary (IMO) is different, around the 3000 miles is better....because you never get all the old oil out....and BTW, my Renny 2 with EMOP's still only takes 1 litre of oil every 5000 KMS (3000 miles) after nearly 50,000 KMS, so that is 15% of the original oil is renewed by top off over a 3000 miles change....Keep in mind it has 7 litres of Oil in a Renny 2, a little less in a Renny 1.
I was thinking, if Mazda can make draining oil out of the oil cooler (or position it somewhere else?) then we might be able to go longer oil change interval ... just a thought.

but like others said, it's not really the oil that's failing, the oil filter is ...
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
who here has ever proven that a short vs long oil change schedule makes any difference?

you might as well be discussing whether or not God really exists ....
And what does that have to do with discussing/arguing the topic? Or any topic on this site?

Be happy that this is happening in the correct forum.

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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
who here has ever proven that a short vs long oil change schedule makes any difference?

you might as well be discussing whether or not God really exists ....
No one here has, but I did read a story where they did test it on NYC taxi's. There wasn't any difference between the engines when the oil was changed at 3k or 7k miles.
This was a few years ago. The tech in oils and engines has improved over this time.
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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That much ? u track ur miata ?
No, failing engine. Piston rings.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:30 AM
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Just got done helping tear down a mitsubishi galant beater. The oil was never changed after he bought it used. Was a true beater, tore up inside, and out. The engine finally threw a rod and the water pump went out (at almost the same time) after him driving it for about 104K miles. He bought it at 160K miles, so she lasted 264K miles, and the last 100K basically didnt see an oil change... This was an 01 model, used by a friends younger brother as his get through college car.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DocBeech
Just got done helping tear down a mitsubishi galant beater. The oil was never changed after he bought it used. Was a true beater, tore up inside, and out. The engine finally threw a rod and the water pump went out (at almost the same time) after him driving it for about 104K miles. He bought it at 160K miles, so she lasted 264K miles, and the last 100K basically didnt see an oil change... This was an 01 model, used by a friends younger brother as his get through college car.
just imagine, if he did the oil change, the car should easily go over 300K mark ... *Sigh*

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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Its one of those things in life though... its an infamous college beater... literally you hope it gets you through college without having to put a dollar in to it you know. I can understand that, you have enough bills when you grad lol.
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