Speaking of Mitsu RalliArts, there's the EVO IX version too
11-02-2005, 12:05 PM
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Speaking of Mitsu RalliArts, there's the EVO IX version too
To compliment the Eclipse RalliArt thread. Here's some information on the USDM version of the EVO IX MR RalliArt. There already was a JDM version, but now there's one in the US too.
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/j...rt/raFrame.jsp
Funny how Mitsu will sell a modded EVO or sell the RalliArt parts to mod one. But the second you do mod the car, the warranty is void. And those cars seem to break just as often as the 3rd gen RX-7 did, especially the early '03 EVO VIIIs.
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/j...rt/raFrame.jsp
Funny how Mitsu will sell a modded EVO or sell the RalliArt parts to mod one. But the second you do mod the car, the warranty is void. And those cars seem to break just as often as the 3rd gen RX-7 did, especially the early '03 EVO VIIIs.
11-02-2005, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Funny how Mitsu will sell a modded EVO or sell the RalliArt parts to mod one. But the second you do mod the car, the warranty is void. And those cars seem to break just as often as the 3rd gen RX-7 did, especially the early '03 EVO VIIIs.
11-02-2005, 01:23 PM
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Yeah, nice exaggeration. There are tons of modded Evos running around, still getting warranty service performed with no problems at all. It all depends on the dealer and extent of the modifications...
11-02-2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Do you just sit around all day and make stuff up
Why not do something constructive with your life? Oh that's right, you don't have one.
11-02-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
...And those cars seem to break just as often as the 3rd gen RX-7 did, especially the early '03 EVO VIIIs.
11-02-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AbusiveWombat
Ohhh, and the clutch is still going strong, even after a few smelly clutch launches andteaching my wife how to drive a manual.
11-02-2005, 03:17 PM
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For the record I didn't have alot of issues with my 3rd gen--it had 88,000 miles on the stock internals--had to redo the vacuum hoses but that was it, and it was lightly modded. The 3rd gen had its weaknesses--but alot of those premature engine replacements and all came from poor tuning of modders. Not saying the FD was a Civic, but c'mon.
11-02-2005, 03:31 PM
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Just to clarify, that Ralliart Evo IX above isn't something you can actually buy "as is" from a dealer. Rather it's an example of all the Ralliart parts soon to be available for the USDM Evos. As it is right now, the Ralliart stuff Evo owners buy comes from Japan with instructions in Japanese. For example, I bought a Ralliart shift console cover like the one in the pic below. Still fits like crap even though I was initially told it would bolt up with "OEM fitment". Turns out all the pics on USDM Evos of it fitting perfectly forgot to mention they also purchased an entire JDM console to sit underneath it.
http://turbomagazine.com/features/0406tur_evo07_z.jpg
http://turbomagazine.com/features/0406tur_evo07_z.jpg
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This thread is about the EVO RalliArt, not about reliability or warranties.
If you'll notice, I used the word "seem" in my original comment, not stating anything as fact. Nor am I simply making stuff up. Geez, you WRX & EVO owners need not be so sensitive.
I like the EVO, but the local dealer told me any modded EVO's get no warranty. From the research I've done on EVO forums, biggest gripe seems to be trying to get Mitsu to honor warranties when things break, especially modded EVOs. The crappy service that many owners seem to bitch about, plus my lack of trust from the local dealer, is enough to keep away from the EVO. But I still like it. Also, I owned a 3rd gen RX-7 new from the get go, and yes it had its share of problems. Not saying all FD's are like that, not saying all EVO's are like that either.
Now let's get back to what you guys think of the RalliArt.
If you'll notice, I used the word "seem" in my original comment, not stating anything as fact. Nor am I simply making stuff up. Geez, you WRX & EVO owners need not be so sensitive.
I like the EVO, but the local dealer told me any modded EVO's get no warranty. From the research I've done on EVO forums, biggest gripe seems to be trying to get Mitsu to honor warranties when things break, especially modded EVOs. The crappy service that many owners seem to bitch about, plus my lack of trust from the local dealer, is enough to keep away from the EVO. But I still like it. Also, I owned a 3rd gen RX-7 new from the get go, and yes it had its share of problems. Not saying all FD's are like that, not saying all EVO's are like that either.
Now let's get back to what you guys think of the RalliArt.
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11-02-2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Just to clarify, that Ralliart Evo IX above isn't something you can actually buy "as is" from a dealer.
11-02-2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital_Damage
Mitsu will void any warranty if you modify the engine in any shape or form, this includes...
Turbo, Intercooler, Exhaust or Transmission. It is policy.
Turbo, Intercooler, Exhaust or Transmission. It is policy.
11-02-2005, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
This thread is about the EVO RalliArt, not about reliability or warranties.
If you'll notice, I used the word "seem" in my original comment, not stating anything as fact. Nor am I simply making stuff up. Geez, you WRX & EVO owners need not be so sensitive.
I like the EVO, but the local dealer told me any modded EVO's get no warranty. From the research I've done on EVO forums, biggest gripe seems to be trying to get Mitsu to honor warranties when things break, especially modded EVOs. The crappy service that many owners seem to bitch about, plus my lack of trust from the local dealer, is enough to keep away from the EVO. But I still like it. Also, I owned a 3rd gen RX-7 new from the get go, and yes it had its share of problems. Not saying all FD's are like that, not saying all EVO's are like that either.
Now let's get back to what you guys think of the RalliArt.
If you'll notice, I used the word "seem" in my original comment, not stating anything as fact. Nor am I simply making stuff up. Geez, you WRX & EVO owners need not be so sensitive.
I like the EVO, but the local dealer told me any modded EVO's get no warranty. From the research I've done on EVO forums, biggest gripe seems to be trying to get Mitsu to honor warranties when things break, especially modded EVOs. The crappy service that many owners seem to bitch about, plus my lack of trust from the local dealer, is enough to keep away from the EVO. But I still like it. Also, I owned a 3rd gen RX-7 new from the get go, and yes it had its share of problems. Not saying all FD's are like that, not saying all EVO's are like that either.
Now let's get back to what you guys think of the RalliArt.
2.) You brought up mods and reliability in the first place.
3.) It "seems" you are full of **** and just pull information out of your ***.
4.) If your local dealer told you that then clearly it's true in all case.
5.) Why the hell would you even compare an FD to an Evo, the strongest part of the Evo is probably the engine, which is probably the weakest for the FD.
11-02-2005, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
That's BS. My dealer warranties any work up to new cams - assuming you're running software to offset an increase in boost. Some dealers do less I'm sure but you can't paint such a broad brush. All dealers and all Evos are different.
If you blow your clutch at 10k miles and have tons of power mods of course most dealers are not going to warranty it. Find me one car manufacturer or dealer that would.
11-02-2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The dealer that I've considered buying from is similar. The service manager has two Evos, one with 400+whp, I know for a fact that they will let many mods slide by as long as it doesn't seem apparent that the mods caused the problem.
If you blow your clutch at 10k miles and have tons of power mods of course most dealers are not going to warranty it. Find me one car manufacturer or dealer that would.
If you blow your clutch at 10k miles and have tons of power mods of course most dealers are not going to warranty it. Find me one car manufacturer or dealer that would.
They also have on-site AWD dyno, parts shop and tuning "advisors". The owner's kid races a 500hp Evo (with a sunroof
) and they use other modded Evo owners as references when it comes time to decide where you wanna take your car to be tuned.Every dealership is different. Some Mitsu service departments see the Evo as a PITA because of the narrow profit margins, turbo charger, tunability and the complexity of the drivetrain. Others see it as a huge aftermarket opportunity. It's something people need to notice when they buy the car.
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
3.) It "seems" you are full of **** and just pull information out of your ***.
You’re like the insecure bratty kid in school who’s always looking to pick on the other children. I assume you’re an adult, grow up and act like one.
11-02-2005, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Ike, you’ve got some intelligence, I’ll give you that. So why must you act like an *** HOLE all the time? There are considerate ways to post one’s views, but you can’t seem to help being a jerk. You've got some serious issues dude.
You’re like the insecure bratty kid in school who’s always looking to pick on the other children. I assume you’re an adult, grow up and act like one.
You’re like the insecure bratty kid in school who’s always looking to pick on the other children. I assume you’re an adult, grow up and act like one.
Think of me as a car forum superheroe whos duty is to protect our common member from the evil doing members that have no freaking clue what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Think of me as a car forum superheroe whos duty is to protect our common member from the evil doing members that have no freaking clue what they're talking about.
11-02-2005, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Then start by protecting them from yourself, do us a favor and go away. When it comes to not having a freaking clue, you're public enemy #1.
P.S. Lame response, try not to be so freaking predictable next time.
11-02-2005, 10:22 PM
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geez you two stop this nonesense. hachi i think youre wrong about that claim. and Ike your comments are disrespectful. geez both of you guys suck, stop the pointless personal attacks already.
on topic:
i distinctly remember there was an autoweek article on the evo, about warranty woes, where its common practice where mitsu dealers were looking up SCCA lists and voiding the warranty of owners who were competing in their EVO. Im too lazy to dig through my big *** pile of old autoweek magazines, but i think thats the jest of it. Im not sure if it talked about waranty being voided because of mods alone. but i dont think so. -this article is what caused all the commotion about mistubishi waranty voiding, then things got out of hand as people pass along the info and started making up stuff about it.
as far as mods voiding warranty, its not just a mitsu issue, its pretty consistent accross the industry, Mazda dealers arnt much different in that regard compared to mitsu dealers.
heres the gigantic thread about the mitsu warranty voiding saga
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=87435
http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=103427 - just a new article about the aftermarket and warranty and SEMA.
on topic:
i distinctly remember there was an autoweek article on the evo, about warranty woes, where its common practice where mitsu dealers were looking up SCCA lists and voiding the warranty of owners who were competing in their EVO. Im too lazy to dig through my big *** pile of old autoweek magazines, but i think thats the jest of it. Im not sure if it talked about waranty being voided because of mods alone. but i dont think so. -this article is what caused all the commotion about mistubishi waranty voiding, then things got out of hand as people pass along the info and started making up stuff about it.
as far as mods voiding warranty, its not just a mitsu issue, its pretty consistent accross the industry, Mazda dealers arnt much different in that regard compared to mitsu dealers.
heres the gigantic thread about the mitsu warranty voiding saga
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=87435
http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=103427 - just a new article about the aftermarket and warranty and SEMA.
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