Notices
General Automotive Discuss all things automotive here other than the RX-8

So it's been 1 year in my GR STI. Comparisons inside.

Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:42 AM
  #1  
ReZ-8's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
So it's been 1 year in my GR STI. Comparisons inside.

What can I say....

I got an email saying this board misses me (yeah, right!) so this is probably my last thread.

I loved the RX-8; super handling in stock form, suicide doors, great stereo, high revving rotary... but it lacks masculinity (and ***** that go with it). Don't get me wrong here! I drove mine for 60000miles and appreciated them, but this was not a good car for canadian weather. I got stuck in my own driveway a few times... really. Now, I don't even know where my shovel is anymore.

I actually wanted to upgrade the RX-8... but no mod was worth it. The only thing i could do was add a subwoofer. Which i did and it was a good upgrade. But for power.... not alot i could do to get decent gains. Which is actually good because that's what I would expect from a good performance japanese car: it was tuned from the factory.

Now about the sti. Handling is ... ok. Steering is muffled and being an AWD, it's heavy and it understeers. I actually had to tame her before driving aggresively. There is a learning curve. I know now why so many of them are wrecked. You can't slam the brakes when you're in trouble. You actually have to downshift, WOT and aim where you want to go with both hands on the wheel.

I put down 2000$ USD on the sti to have it professionally moded and tuned. I gained about 21% wtq and 14% whp. So starting from 300hp/tq, you can see that dollar for dollar, this was a wise decision. Powerband shifted almost 1000rpms also. I get 320wtq at 3100rpm, and stays there until 5k. Power is good now. I ran a 12.5sec on the quarter mile, versus 13.3ish. Everything else is stock except the TBE, tune and drop in air filter. Next on the list are coilovers and swaybars, and possibly an anti-lift kit. But winter is coming so i'll wait until spring. The stock suspension is nice and somewhat firm, but driving aggressively puts the chassis out of the suspensions' control quite easily.

The stereo sucks too. I have the stock nav (because 2008s didn't have any options, only one model) and although it has dolby surround sound, dvd player, 8 to 10 speakers (not sure ), it still has to be cranked up to 75% to get decent volume while driving. And what is produced is not very ...... even. Sure there's the EQ, but the speakers/amp are not cutting it. The sti has more rattles than the mazda, btw.

I'm averaging around 20miles per gallon, versus 14 in the mazda. Funny thing though, the mazda drank gas all the time, but the subie only drinks when i'm flooring it (and still...). Interesting how a 1.3liter burns 50% more fuel than a turbo'd 2.5l that produces twice the power.

Sti > rx8? I'm inclined to say yes. It's alot more reliable. And i'm not afraid of b16s and neons anymore. But it all depends on where you live, and if you have the means to own more than one car. The RX-8, to me, is a pure summer car. If I lived in the south, I'd probably go back to 2wd. The weight of awd is costly in many aspects, and the advantages are minimum if you are on clean tarmac year round.

So that's about it, feel free to ask questions, i'll do what i can to stay objective.

oh and I did test drive the evo. Was not impresssed. The subie felt stronger, tougher. And the general seated position was also better. Differential settings were alot more customizable in the subie. And was almost 10000$ less. Need i say more?

cool, new emoticons since my last visit!

Last edited by ReZ-8; Oct 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:55 AM
  #2  
White_Shadows's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento, CA
Glad you like your Scooby, personally the second I move to a snowey state, that is the exact car I will buy. RWD in snow is a joke. As for now I rather enjoy the RX8 if for no other reason then I don't hardly ever see any on the road. You are a Bus' are everywhere. Gas milleage is solved with a motorcycle for a daily.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:00 PM
  #3  
iwc3707's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Glad to see you enjoying your sti. If I was still living in Canada, I probably would have got the scooby first. But I live in FL and a rwd is more fun.
btw the rotary has always swilled the gas and a piston engine always uses less gas when you don't use the turbos. I have no problem with the gas mileage as I knew what I was getting into when I bought my '09 GT. Nothing sounds like a RX8 at 9 000 rpm. Try that on your wagon.
As far as masculinity goes, I think you are so wrong ...your car is still an econobox that is tuned within an inch of its life. The RX8 has way better lines and looks like a sportscar.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:44 PM
  #4  
ReZ-8's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by iwc3707
As far as masculinity goes, I think you are so wrong ...your car is still an econobox that is tuned within an inch of its life. The RX8 has way better lines and looks like a sportscar.
Excuse me?
Why do you say that it's tuned within a inch of its life? I've dumped clutches, spun all 4, missed shifts, drifted, even went up a ski trail with it. Compression on the suby is the same than when i bought it. My 8 blew it's engine 2000miles after i got rid of it.

If fact, my 8 had a hard time just STARTING. Could barely chirp 2nd and did 14.5 on the quarter. Put both on a track, ANY track and see who finishes first. 9000rpm... yay... at 135wtq. I'll be shifting to 3rd while you reach 9k, and i'll be to far to hear it anyways.

Just saying an STI is an econobox makes me

No offense, but I think your ego is using your keyboard.

I didn't start this thread to start war. I have yet to see an sti get pwnd by a rx8. I'm talking stock here. We all know monsters exist for about every model.

I loved my rx-8. Don't make me hate people who still own them, please.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:58 PM
  #5  
JinDesu's Avatar
went back to srsly broke
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,040
Likes: 1
From: Flushing, NY
Originally Posted by ReZ-8
Excuse me?
Why do you say that it's tuned within a inch of its life? I've dumped clutches, spun all 4, missed shifts, drifted, even went up a ski trail with it. Compression on the suby is the same than when i bought it. My 8 blew it's engine 2000miles after i got rid of it.

If fact, my 8 had a hard time just STARTING. Could barely chirp 2nd and did 14.5 on the quarter. Put both on a track, ANY track and see who finishes first. 9000rpm... yay... at 135wtq. I'll be shifting to 3rd while you reach 9k, and i'll be to far to hear it anyways.

Just saying an STI is an econobox makes me

No offense, but I think your ego is using your keyboard.

I didn't start this thread to start war. I have yet to see an sti get pwnd by a rx8. I'm talking stock here. We all know monsters exist for about every model.

I loved my rx-8. Don't make me hate people who still own them, please.
*cough* that's because the STI has about 70 more hp than the rx8 =p

But I do love the STI. If i didn't get the RX-8, I would have gotten an STI.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 01:04 PM
  #6  
ReZ-8's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by JinDesu
*cough* that's because the STI has about 70 more hp than the rx8 =p

But I do love the STI. If i didn't get the RX-8, I would have gotten an STI.
I love both. Just to be clear. They are just different.

When i think of all the other crap cars on the market today, i think we should enjoy our common pride, and not argue.

Go pick fights with the GM crowd, of Ford, or Hyundai, or.... well, you get the picture.

This is aimed at iwc3707, btw... Who probably has never driven an sti.

Peace.

Last edited by ReZ-8; Oct 3, 2009 at 01:06 PM. Reason: forgot to point a finger.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 04:19 PM
  #7  
RX8pwnage's Avatar
RX8. Yeah, I get it.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
From: West Lafayette, IN
I appreciate the sti for everything it is and i like it.

But for me, when i look at an sti the last thing i think to myself is "wow, look at that awesome sportscar!" To me it looks like a box that can go fast. =/

When i decided i wanted to buy an '09 sportscar, what i wanted was a) looks, and b) sound. An rx8 is one of the sexiest cars on the road. When people see it they know its a sports car. It turns heads. It causes rubber neck syndrome. Sti does not, sorry. When people hear the rotary, they look and ask themselves why it sounds so odd and different. I like that.

Is an rx8 gonna beat an sti in a drag stock vs stock. Nope...but i didnt buy it to drag or win races. I bought it cos i wanted an incredible ride experience that looks and sounds incredible. That is what i found in the rx8. It is also what i didnt find in the sti.

Peace
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:27 PM
  #8  
boizart1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: Pembroke Pines, FL
^lol. Love both cars as well...If it wasnt an rx8 I would have probably got either the '05 sti or an evo IX. both keep it mind both of these cars already come with with turbos...throw a turbo in an 8 and it will leave ur sh*t in the dust. Theres plenty of people on this site that have better performing cars than you...so dont thrash the 8. Only reason I dont like the new STI is because...well...no offense but it looks like sh*t. but the previous model is badass
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:33 PM
  #9  
Spinning Sushi's Avatar
I <3 Sushi
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 4
From: SoCal
Originally Posted by iwc3707
As far as masculinity goes, I think you are so wrong ...your car is still an econobox that is tuned within an inch of its life. The RX8 has way better lines and looks like a sportscar.
Another perfect example of a fanboi...
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:48 PM
  #10  
@!!narotordo's Avatar
FLAME ON!
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 948
Likes: 0
From: Strip Club
**** your 4 door grocery getter with a park bench. a real sports car can do a burn out see we have to drive our car where with factory turbo cars all you have to do is step on the gas
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:52 PM
  #11  
Spinning Sushi's Avatar
I <3 Sushi
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 4
From: SoCal
Originally Posted by @!!narotordo
**** your 4 door grocery getter with a park bench. a real sports car can do a burn out see we have to drive our car where with factory turbo cars all you have to do is step on the gas
I drive a Camry now, I bet ya that my super duper awesome JDM tyte yo Camry can outrun your POS rotary powered car!
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 09:03 PM
  #12  
nikkdizzle's Avatar
Daddy's Home...
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 793
Likes: 0
From: sevenONEfour
dang it rensis..he strikes again. such a hater
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 10:55 PM
  #13  
iwc3707's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
I drive a Camry now, I bet ya that my super duper awesome JDM tyte yo Camry can outrun your POS rotary powered car!
Yet you still hang out at a rotary forum.
rez8 take your station wagon back to the sti forum
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:05 PM
  #14  
9krpmrx8's Avatar
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 33,788
Likes: 462
From: San Antonio, Texas
I hate stupid comparisons. Good luck man, I owned a pretty fast WRX back in the day and that car saved my life in an accident, was reliable, braked well, and was fun as hell.

I put 85k trouble free miles on it until I was broad side by a drunk driver (walked away without a scratch). We all move on to different things. None of us will own our RX-8's forever so I don't see why so many feel they have to defend it this way. I have 100k on my 04' RX-8 and when it's gone I will have a lot of bad and good things to say.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:09 PM
  #15  
ReZ-8's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by iwc3707
Yet you still hang out at a rotary forum.
rez8 take your station wagon back to the sti forum
wow...

If you would have correctly read my post you might have easily figured out that i don't hang here anymore. But obviously you did not.

Oh, it's a hatch, btw. If you can't tell teh difference, you shouldn't prove your ignorance as such.

I feel for the elder rx8club members.... looking down on you youngings with great pride i'm sure.

I've seen many turbo'd 8s get spanked by wrxs, let alone protuned stage 2 stis.

I think most of you are killing what love i had left for this unique car, the rx-8.

Thanks.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:17 PM
  #16  
9krpmrx8's Avatar
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 33,788
Likes: 462
From: San Antonio, Texas
Well, I appreciate the return and the feedback. Every forum has dumb ***** so pay the few we have no mind.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:32 PM
  #17  
zoned's Avatar
rotary user
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 426
Likes: 0
From: Madison, NC
i just bought my wife a 08 impreza hatch. she likes it. i want to make it go faster but it's alot like the 8 in that department, buy a sti or live with it.

glad you stopped by, dont pay attention to the haters.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:53 PM
  #18  
bhop's Avatar
NO A/C :(
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 656
Likes: 0
From: Silver Spring, MD
Originally Posted by iwc3707
Yet you still hang out at a rotary forum.
rez8 take your station wagon back to the sti forum
Originally Posted by ReZ-8
wow...

If you would have correctly read my post you might have easily figured out that i don't hang here anymore. But obviously you did not.

Oh, it's a hatch, btw. If you can't tell teh difference, you shouldn't prove your ignorance as such.

I feel for the elder rx8club members.... looking down on you youngings with great pride i'm sure.

I've seen many turbo'd 8s get spanked by wrxs, let alone protuned stage 2 stis.

I think most of you are killing what love i had left for this unique car, the rx-8.

Thanks.
This forum can be pretty funny at times. Glad you like your STI (I think its a great car personally). Maybe he's still in this forum because he still has some sort of love for this particular car lol. No need for the extra BS.. I used to want a STI but could not decide, so I bought a 350z which I don't drive anymore and finally rested upon an 8. BTW, I've also seen a very select few spank an STI but nothing serious....... Enjoy!
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:57 PM
  #19  
Kaiser bun's Avatar
Yeah Sioux Sioux!!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
From: Dickinson, North Dakota
my brother has a reg impreza (not as nice i know) and i absolutely love his car alot of the time, the perfect combination would be to have both

slow cruising days or calmer days when you might want to take a corner fast every so often = rx8

any winter day, go fast day, or want better gas mileage day = STI
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:35 AM
  #20  
Krazed_Rx8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,431
Likes: 1
From: Glendale, California
Arent both the evo and sti's econoboxes?
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:35 AM
  #21  
Krazed_Rx8's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,431
Likes: 1
From: Glendale, California
Oh yes.. the new sti hatch is as ugly as ****.. unless modded properly.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:47 AM
  #22  
Jethro Tull's Avatar
Living In The Past
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 6
Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out.

Have a good life.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:47 AM
  #23  
newguy's Avatar
zoom fuckin zoom
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: PA, USA
The original STi sedans were ok looking in a rally car for the road way but imo I find the new STi hatchback hideous, fender bulges on a station wagon only go so far, that wavy grill/headlight look doesnt turn my head. That said I dont like the new WRX sedan as well as the originals either same for the new Legacy GT vs the original LGT it looks bland like a camry/accord now. Subarus styling is going down hill imo. The power is its only saving grace. Purely my opinion but Id have an EVO 10 or Lancer Ralliart in a second over the new subies. Older STi sedans vs. EVO 8/9 is a closer battle in the looks dept.

No such thing as a 4 door sports car imo no matter what maxima ads say but Im glad you like your STi and youre right about the winter thing, I keep my 8 parked until the plows run even then I dont drive it to work Ive got a fwd on snowtires for winter.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 12:56 AM
  #24  
Ross_Dawg's Avatar
Registered Toker
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,545
Likes: 1
From: Bend, OR
Originally Posted by Jethro Tull
Don't let the door hit you in the *** on the way out.

Have a good life.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:34 AM
  #25  
nikkdizzle's Avatar
Daddy's Home...
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 793
Likes: 0
From: sevenONEfour
these comparison threads don't usually last too long.
i hope you enjoy the car your STI though...

i think if i had an STI i could easily get into a lot of trouble with it.
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 PM.