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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
actually bought the 8 cause i thought the suicide doors were cool if you must know....i liked the comercial with the car hugging the guy back when he hugged it...bought it for my wife.....i then turned around and traded it for a brickyard enthusist model which got totaled when i hit a dear in it and lost control....so i then got another one (black preformance model 6 spd.)like i said the 8 was ok...but feminine and lacking power....but for someone to say that thing is goodlooking is a little over board....the front humped fenders got played out with the 70s model corvettes

Alot of people overboard because I get a love your car, great looking car etc. comment daily. If you bought a car just because of the suicide doors without checking the power, interior etc. like i said your not a very good car shopper. Not sure what you mean by too feminine but your in the minority from what i can tell of the head turns and comments the 8 gets. I don't mind the Z but it would have been a chioce behind the 8 and the S2000.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
[ Only came in burnt orange.


actually the 72 240 came in bright yellow
OK, the car was a '70 I found a press release. Seems to have been the first year. I remember ONLY burnt orange that year. 2.4 liter 150hp. Cheesy vinyl black interior. Great idea. I don't know, but when I drive a Mustang, I don't get that thing-that feel that these cars give you. I have twin girls, going to be born in a few weeks. I am going to teach them how to drive. What a great gift. I n driving I'm going to teach them about that thing. I hope there are still rotarys around.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by barielle
OK, the car was a '70 I found a press release. Seems to have been the first year. I remember ONLY burnt orange that year. 2.4 liter 150hp. Cheesy vinyl black interior. Great idea. I don't know, but when I drive a Mustang, I don't get that thing-that feel that these cars give you. I have twin girls, going to be born in a few weeks. I am going to teach them how to drive. What a great gift. I n driving I'm going to teach them about that thing. I hope there are still rotarys around.
Sorry about turning on the Way Back Machine.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
not calling it the perfect car either...just the best thing out there for under 30k.....there are things i dont like about it....if your over 6'1" it is to confined...visibility out the back window sucks...and the door panels could have been made out of something nicer....but to keep it under 30k you gotta give up a little

I like the Z. I almost bought a Z.


Until I drove it. My Camaro at the time handled just as well, had alot more power, had better ride quality and stock stereo system, and in my opinion the interiors were very comparable in overall asthetics and quality. In the end I decided to go with something different. I couldn't see paying $30,000 for something I already had.

I wouldn't call it the best thing under 30 grand (All the ones I priced came to $30k+ with options anyway). The best rwd 2 seater under 30 grand I guess. Too many categories for me to make such a blanket statement. All in all, however, it is a very nice machine if you're not expecting too much in the interior and ride quality departments.

Please note that I did not say that the Z was inferior to the 8 or the Camaro.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
6th gear....90 mph at 3k rpm....6600 rpm redline...yea i have plenty of idea what im talking about....question is DO YOU....oh and the z/g car was given car of the year....was the 8?NOPE

try again
I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

I love the Z and the 8, and I think bashing either car is stupid. But the oh and the z/g car was given car of the year....was the 8?NOPE line? Please.

The 8 was voted 10 Best by Car and Driver twice in a row. Was the Z/G? No. The 8 wins most magazine comparisons to the 350Z/G35. If you want to use 3rd party reviews/ratings/awards, then I think you probably lose. From what I've seen the 8 wins a majority of the nods from magazines. Not all of them or even a great majority, but the majority. Does that mean the 8 is a superior car to the Z?

No it doesn't. I just means a lot of the reviewers liked driving the 8 more than the Z. If you read the reviews they all say the 8 is slower than the 350Z or the G35 and just doesn't have the power those cars do. No one is disputing that. Both those cars are a bit faster than the 8. But they're not so much faster meaning that just being a better driver in an 8 will allow you to win vs Zs and G35s. It just felt more nimble and comfortable for the reviewers and that's why they chose it; not because of pure performance.

Sheesh. And the thing a lot of people fail to realize including you is people have different criteria for what they want from their cars. The Z is the best car you can get for under 30 grand? Not even close if you want comfort. Is the 8 the best car you can get for under 30 grand? Nope, not if you want power or fuel economy. Is the Z the best car you can get for under 30 grand if all you want is performance? I dunno... a friend of mine got his STi for under 30 grand (he got his for 28) and it's much better than the Z performance wise.

The Z is likely the best car for YOU under 30 grand. That's not true for a lot of other people. I don't really see what's so difficult to understand about that concept. "Different people value different things."
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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THe reason I got rid of my Z is. THe HID's kinda sucked, could never hear the radip when windows were up, stereo sucked, small, and the paint that Nissan uses on almost all there cars suck. There are a lot of things I dont like about the 8 as well though. But I really like both cars. But the Z's are now as often seen as neons and mustangs, but same goes for the WRX now too and so the 8 will probably be more seen soon as well.

Oh well dont know where I was going with all that.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
the stiff steering is technology that the 8 doesnt have...it is designed to stiffen the faster you go to give you more feel for the road....
Quit displaying your ignorance. The RX-8 has excellent speed-sensitive steering. Nice and light for parking, nice and stiff at speed, with appropriate scaling in between.

Originally Posted by 8urrx8
have owned both actually traded the 8 for a TRUE sports car....
Good for you. Now get the hell off our forum, troll.


Originally Posted by 8urrx8
oh almost forgot....140 ish top speed for an 8 and a 170ishmph topspeed in a z and its computer controled speed limiter... try that in an 8
No thanks, I like my licence and insurance. Until I need to spend time at those speeds regularly, the theoretical top end is irrelevant to me. By the way, the RX-8 has no speed limiter - some members here have dynoed it to 186 MPH.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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^ Word!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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I don't know why but every Z owner I've met thus far has been a total douchebag, but I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread

This thread is just stupid, they're both nice cars with their pluses and minuses. I don't know why people can't just accept that and move on rather than turning things into a pissing contest and flinging insults. Sure, debate the differences between the cars and why you like one better than the other, but not this crap...

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Performance, looks, price and everything else aside...

There are too many damn 350Z's on the road. Tough to be unique when you see somebody else driving your car 20 times a day.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Performance, looks, price and everything else aside...

There are too many damn 350Z's on the road. Tough to be unique when you see somebody else driving your car 20 times a day.
There will be plenty of both on the road in a year or so, the Z just had a headstart and sells a little better. I've never seen 20 Zs a week let alone 20 a day.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JM1FE
some members here have dynoed it to 186 MPH.
not a chance of that happening in reality.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
There will be plenty of both on the road in a year or so, the Z just had a headstart and sells a little better. I've never seen 20 Zs a week let alone 20 a day.
No. it's not like a Honda Accord or anything but there are a helluva lot of them on the roads in NorCal. Much more than the RX-8 at least...for now. In an office building of less than 200 people we have 3 in our parking lot.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Welcome to the forum moron, nice first 14 trolling posts, consider this your only warning, you don't see us going to the Z forums and doing this why the hell do you subject us to this nonsense.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
the stiff steering is technology that the 8 doesnt have...it is designed to stiffen the faster you go to give you more feel for the road....z runs 13s stock....its an assload faster than the 8.....i have owned both actually traded the 8 for a TRUE sports car.... :D

just stirring the pot

oh almost forgot....140 ish top speed for an 8 and a 170ishmph topspeed in a z and its computer controled speed limiter... try that in an 8
Your lack of knowledge between these two cars is ridicules. Check out the attached files and you'll have RX8 and 350Z education 101 Today.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cas2themoe
Your lack of knowledge between these two cars is ridicules. Check out the attached files and you'll have RX8 and 350Z education 101 Today.
Excellent, Cas.

Unfortunately though, given the true nature of trolls, I don't think he'll get it. Not totally unexpected.

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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Cas, he may be a douche but he's right about the speed though. No matter what your cute little file says, stock Zs are capable of 13.7s and they are a good amount faster than the RX-8.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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1. why even buy the car for your wife if you hate it that much, what, do you hate your wife too?
2. quit crying because you only can seat 2 people, the sad thing is the 8 can seat 4 and still whips *** around a track, as does the EVO, are you saying the EVo is garbage too? do you ever "call out " EVO owners in your z?
3. why even bother posting here in the first place? honestly, calling people names? well you know what, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny, plus the Z has the ugliest funking door handles ever, what were they thinking?
4. no body on here has ever said the 8 was the fastest car in the world or whatever, and just because something is faster doesn't make it better, cars are subjective, what's best for you isn't going to be best for me, or anyone for that matter judging from your behavior :D
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Cas, he may be a douche but he's right about the speed though. No matter what your cute little file says, stock Zs are capable of 13.7s and they are a good amount faster than the RX-8.
Oh I'm not fighting that fact( I know that), I was talking about the top speed
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by canaryrx8
plus the Z has the ugliest funking door handles ever, what were they thinking?
It's funny you said that, I was in the car yesterday and we pulled up to a Z and my dad said those are some tacky/ugly looking door handles.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cas2themoe
It's funny you said that, I was in the car yesterday and we pulled up to a Z and my dad said those are some tacky/ugly looking door handles.
seriously, I love the Z, I've always loved them and all the previous gens, much like all the different "RX" cars. When they slapped those things on there it was like being kicked in the face, could you imagine how awful the 8 would look if it had those giant chuncks sticking off of it? That's probably why the car feels so heavy to people, shave the handles and you probably lose a couple hundred pounds :D
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 8urrx8
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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he's banned, gonna clean up the thread now. Sorry guys. Please dont' take it personally if I delete your response to him- just trying to get rid of all troll traces
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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he's banned, gonna clean up the thread now. Sorry guys. Please dont' take it personally if I delete your response to him- just trying to get rid of all troll traces
Hi Elara,

Good move. Feel free to delete mine if it helps clean things up.

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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Hi Elara,

Good move. Feel free to delete mine if it helps clean things up.
Same.
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