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Old 09-11-2009, 10:51 AM
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Skyline v.s the U.S Government

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Not sure what the fuss is about on that thread. They aren't having a problem with Skylines, sportscars, or foreign cars (as the varying ranting suggests), just illegally imported cars, which I have to agree with them on.

They are vague about ones imported solely (and truthfully) for track racing, although fighting that battle would be costly and probably a lost cause unless it was clearly specified from the beginning, because even if it is track only, if it wasn't imported with that defined, then there is falsification of (or lack of) documents showing it. They can prove it wasn't imported correctly, and you can't prove it was.
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wtf is wrong with these people! and to think we are paying for it!!! SUCH A SHAME
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i have skyline model car that i built is the government gunna take that away...i bought it off ebay from japan
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Not sure what the fuss is about on that thread. They aren't having a problem with Skylines, sportscars, or foreign cars (as the varying ranting suggests), just illegally imported cars, which I have to agree with them on.

They are vague about ones imported solely (and truthfully) for track racing, although fighting that battle would be costly and probably a lost cause unless it was clearly specified from the beginning, because even if it is track only, if it wasn't imported with that defined, then there is falsification of (or lack of) documents showing it. They can prove it wasn't imported correctly, and you can't prove it was.
you CANT legally import em so they are implying you cant import em at all pretty much ... unless im missing something and you can import the r34s
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Originally Posted by rodjonathan
wtf is wrong with these people! and to think we are paying for it!!! SUCH A SHAME
Actually, most enforcement that targets revenue loss isn't much of a drain on budgets, and could easily generate a net profit.

My team within the company I work for has cost ~$300,000 so far this year, including travel, payroll, etc... We have recovered just shy of $1,000,000 YTD through August. And while we don't target the same subset of thieves that these guys are, everything is very very similar in operations, methods, etc...

Granted, this is a government thing, so it probably isn't as efficient as we are, but I have trouble agreeing with the "OMG it's costing us tax payers to do this!" If they weren't doing this, then the tax payers would have to shoulder more of the rest of the costs of the government, because these evaders aren't paying like they should be.
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Originally Posted by rodjonathan
wtf is wrong with these people! and to think we are paying for it!!! SUCH A SHAME
Actually, most enforcement that targets revenue loss isn't much of a drain on budgets, and could easily generate a net profit.

My team within the company I work for has cost ~$300,000 so far this year, including travel, payroll, etc... We have recovered just shy of $1,000,000 YTD through August. And while we don't target the same subset of thieves that these guys are, everything is very very similar in operations, methods, etc...

Granted, this is a government thing, so it probably isn't as efficient as we are, but I have trouble agreeing with the "OMG it's costing us tax payers to do this!" If they weren't doing this, then the tax payers would have to shoulder more of the rest of the costs of the government, because these evaders aren't paying like they should be.


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I am not sure why lack of being able to do it legally justifies doing it illegally?

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i just wanna know if i can keep my model car
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Originally Posted by rodjonathan
you CANT legally import em so they are implying you cant import em at all pretty much ... unless im missing something and you can import the r34s
Technically, you can import any vehicle. It has to be imported by an official registered importer, and they have set number of days to make the vehicle DOT certified to meat all current vehicle certifications. No one said it would be cheep... The commonly a certain car is imported, the cheaper it is to bring it up to regulation because there would be proper documentation as to what was done to certify it and make it road ready. I remember reading about one guy that had to put 6 cats on his skyline to make it legal before he could take possession from the importer.

I've looked into importing all kinds of cars.
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Didn't the guys that ran that company (insert name here) that imported skylines all get indicted? How would you like to have your 8 stolen and shipped to Cuba and sold there like a normal used car?
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wow thats sooo wack!! GT-r's are sick.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Didn't the guys that ran that company (insert name here) that imported skylines all get indicted? How would you like to have your 8 stolen and shipped to Cuba and sold there like a normal used car?
true that i guess i wasnt thinking of where they were coming from (the circumstances) but now this makes a little sense
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Yay the freedom I fight for being tossed away cause our governement likes to have a double standard
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well all skylines that were not imported to the U.S by motorex are not legal. they screwed up when to get past obd2 testing on r34 they claimed that they were all 95. when the feds found out they had already certified over 92 skylines.
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Originally Posted by josuar88
Yay the freedom I fight for being tossed away cause our governement likes to have a double standard
Not sure you are reading here... No offense, I respect your service, but everything points to people deliberately defrauding the government, possibly with stolen cars.

Why would you want them to continue doing it?
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Ahh like I really care what goes on in the world cause its the same news everyday someone steals,kills, and dies so whatever I'm done worrying about the world
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^ ok stop being a kid if you dont care about the world doesnt mean no one does HOWEVER i dont agree that they are ALL defrauding the government if i have the money and want a skyline and cant get one here i WOULD import it LEGALLY and they would eventually come after me too at least from the sound of that letter they would
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People are getting ridiculous with their political views. Saying this has anything to do with obama is just plain ignorant. This isn't due to anything new. This has been going on and has always had legal issues surrounding it.

You can classify it as a right being taken away from us if you want... but then so is murder, theft, vandalism etc. They could definitely be a little more reasonable/lenient with the importation of cars but there needs to be some restrictions. I'm not even sure if I would go as far as to say this is a waste of government money... It's just regulations and if it wasn't for people trying to find loopholes or falling into legal-gray areas to get what they want, then it wouldn't have to come down to this.

If you want to see a giant waste of money, look at some of our military spending... such as the development of the F-22 raptor and it's maintenance lol.
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You can bring the car over as a "track car" I for get what they call it. You just can reg it with the DVD as a street car. There is a **** load of paper work that has to be filled out the right way and your better off taking that to someone that knows who they are paying off I mean what there doing *best motoring*.
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[off topic]Did you name your car Terry? Who does that? You name your car girl names....not guy names.[/off topic]
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Terry as in RoTerry

edit:and i dont know any guys name terry
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well all I know is Brian Earl Spilner works for the FBI and wont drive or race anything but a Skyline when he's not on the clock

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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
If you want to see a giant waste of money, look at some of our military spending... such as the development of the F-22 raptor and it's maintenance lol.
Yeah, defense superiority is a waste of money...Now a waste of money was giving billions to private industry.

That sucks for anyone who is going to have their car taken away. However, they knew the risks when they cheated the system.
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this is all about money ... justice my ***

I bet if any of the owners start "settle" this thing with the government like "hey I really like my car so how about this, I just gonna pay you guys another 50-100K, and you guys will leave me alone alright?"

I BET the so called "oh we're seizing your car cuz EPA and DOT blah blah blah" gonna sucker up and like "ok, you can keep your car, just send your payment to ..."
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^lol... I think they would too


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