S2000 or Mazdaspeed Miata?
02-28-2010, 10:41 AM
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Well that's a good point, however, I do trust a car with a turbo setup from the factory more than an aftermarket application. That being said, I don't really have any data to support this theory with regards to the miatas. Another important factor is that the mazdaspeed already has other things going for it over the base miata which would porbably cost another 2 grand or so to replicate in the base miata, such as stronger clutch, upgraded suspoension with bilsteins, nicer front bumper, better stereo, etc...
From what I can tell, it takes about 2 grand to get the mazdaspeed up to around 240 crank bhp. With only 2500 pounds with full fuel tank, that is pretty damn attractive to me.
My heart wants to get the AP1 s2000, but I want to get into modding, especially get into installing them myself, and I get the feeling that aftermarket parts for the honda are freaking pricy, give only small gains, and probably not as easy to install, but hey I hope I'm wrong, cuz like I said, I kinda secretly want the honda even if I tell myself I should get the miata.
I have driven a few AP1's, and I can attest to the hair-on-the-arms-raising feeling it delivers. It seriously feels like you are driving a racecar with that motor it has.
From what I can tell, it takes about 2 grand to get the mazdaspeed up to around 240 crank bhp. With only 2500 pounds with full fuel tank, that is pretty damn attractive to me.
My heart wants to get the AP1 s2000, but I want to get into modding, especially get into installing them myself, and I get the feeling that aftermarket parts for the honda are freaking pricy, give only small gains, and probably not as easy to install, but hey I hope I'm wrong, cuz like I said, I kinda secretly want the honda even if I tell myself I should get the miata.
I have driven a few AP1's, and I can attest to the hair-on-the-arms-raising feeling it delivers. It seriously feels like you are driving a racecar with that motor it has.
http://www.flyinmiata.com
They've both been doing it for years, track proven, and Corky Bell knows a thing or two about FI.
The FM and BEGi kits are expensive compared to a DIY setup, but they take a lot less work and are damn reliable.
02-28-2010, 09:41 PM
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you have to ask yourself 2 questions....
how serious about performance are you?
buying a cheaper n/a miata and adding aftermarket FI and mods totally $14k will build you wickedly fast miata.
how serious about style are you?
its not even a question here. the s2000 is in a completely different league. its far and away more stylish.
how serious about performance are you?
buying a cheaper n/a miata and adding aftermarket FI and mods totally $14k will build you wickedly fast miata.
how serious about style are you?
its not even a question here. the s2000 is in a completely different league. its far and away more stylish.
02-28-2010, 10:00 PM
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02-28-2010, 10:18 PM
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It's a Cavalier
I missed an opportunity to buy the last of the Mazdaspeed Miatas they had at a dealership. They had so many of them, they were selling at something like $14,999 brand new.
I should have bought one.
I should have bought one.
03-01-2010, 01:10 AM
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You can install the new retractable hardtops on an older miata? That's quite interesting. I would consider that at some point after performance mods I suppose. After checking out flyin miata and BEGI, I am not really convinced that that getting a base miata and then modding it would be any cheaper than the mazdaspeed. It seems like I would need to spend about 2800 just to be at the bhp I would have in a mazdaspeed after an intake mod. Not to mention paying big time for a clutch that matches the speed's clutch, and upgrades in suspension to match it as well. Also the front bumper is cooler in the speed, and those things aren't free either. I could be wrong, but I really don't see how a very low miliage base miata, (probably around 9 grand or so, realisticly) would end up being cheaper than a mazdaspeed with similar mileage for 13.5'ish.
Am I missing something here, or is the trick that you have to get a really old one with low miles like a 95 or something. They do exist but are damn hard to find, and usually end up being an automatic. ughghhh
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