Originally Posted by AbusiveWombat

Sorry but your statement is incorrect. The EVO's 4g63 is far easier and cheaper engine to make power on than the 3.2V6 in the R32. The R32 may have potential because of the displacement advantage but currently they're sill behind the EVO's. There's a tuner shoot out that is coming out in Car and Driver where the leaders in R32 tuning (HRE?) bring their twin turbo R32. The R32 runs a 12.02....the vishnu EVO runs in the 11's. The HRE R32 price tag is ~$70k (including the R32)... the Vishnu Stage2 $40k (including the EVO).

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ner/index.html

Just because you can drive over the speed limit doesn't mean you have a fast car. The auto RX8 runs high 15 / low 16's in the quater mile. That is not a good time....that's on par with a full size pickup truck. There is a whole host of regular cars that have that same or better acceleration. Trust me, if you were to drive the EVO you would be blown away by it's acceleration....and in the realm of sports cars, it's not even that fast. There's still another level beyond (C6, Viper,...etc).

Originally Posted by canaryrx8

So again we have someone base their opinion on straight line performance, not only that, but if my car can go over the speed limit does that not (by law) consitute "speeding"? So if I am in fact "speeding" am I not going fast? which makes me by default the owner of a "fast car"? :D While there may be a whole host of cars that can go in a straight line as fast as an auto 8 (or manual for that matter) that doesn't disqualify them or the 8 as not being a fast car, plus this "list" of average cars probably don't corner, brake, or have the looks the 8 has. Even if I were "blown away by an EVO's acceleration", what's left after that? Even going fast in a straight line can get old, a car needs to be enjoyable from all sides, not just in one area. Personally i have great respect for all the evo and the sti, even the srt4 as they have broken a lot of ground in a lot of the ways, but I also feel that the 8 is a fast car even if it's 1/4 times may not be all that spectacular.

Originally Posted by inline4g63

The STi is just a less friendly platform to modify and get power from. They have trouble getting over 300 awhp...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ght=evo+owners

Originally Posted by AbusiveWombat

By your definition, every car and truck is fast. In fact, I think the only vehicles that don't fall into your category of fast are land movers. I don't think "rabbit" speed will get you to 61 mph.