Ike

How does what I said lead to meaning I hate the 8?

therm8

18.5-20/24(sometimes 20/26), how's yours?

Ike

Almost exactly the same.

OfficerFarva

Well, I love the 8. But, I have a little turbo on my car, so I aint comin close to that gas mileage! Plus, I also noticed that I seem to have a problem w/ my right foot from time to time...I don't think that helps it to much either .

Big_Mike_4488

Hey nez, you've earned it. Please come post in my thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/how-i-first-got-flamed-rx8club-com-89073/

CosmosMpower

Wanna bet?

http://www.icsperformance.com/media.htm

730whp turbo M3

(right click, save as)
http://www.icsperformance.com/ICS%20...rmance.com.wmv

This thread is stupid, I would take a E46 M3 over a RX8 anyday, don't go by some stupid top gear lap time. The M3 is a far superior performer in every aspect traps 10 mph higher in the 1/4 mile and has the best steering feel in the market but 20 grand more expensive. You should compare the RX8 to cars like the 350Z, S2000, Pontiac GTO in the 35K or under price range not 50K cars like the M3, Elise, Exige, C6.

prescriptionmazda

Well not that, but, since I've been here I have not seen you say anything nice about the 8, not one thing. which leads me to believe that you don't like it.

Or have issues with commitment, one or the other.

yiksing

Don't worry about Ike, he doesn't hate the 8, he's just here to pull 8 fanbois back to reality, harsh reality...

9291150

You not retarded, I prefer the term mentally impaired, or intellectually challenged.

shakRpahX8

^ mentally funny

9291150

Gimmie a break yiksing. Then again, this coming from a guy who doesn't think much of his 8. Actually, doesn't the Sultan give all Brunei residents an 8? Maybe thats why you're often knocking it.

dragula53

with double(?) the whp and all wheel drive.

9291150

Spoken like a true STI owner...now making nearly 400 whp and over 20MPG.

dragula53

not me. my car is stock.

I was just pointing out that 170 rwhp/20 mpg sounds a lot less impressive than 320 awhp/20 mpg... or whatever ike happens to be making these days.

As for me, 250 awhp/20 mpg is hella better than the 170 rwhp/12 mpg I was getting with the rx-8.

but to keep it in perspective, 320 whp and 20 mpg isn't nearly as impressive as the 'vette's 405 horsepower and 28mpg.

Don't look to me for rx-8 hate.


Gotta be realistic too though.

Skiptomylue

*sigh* if you dont liek the shitty gas milage then you shouldnt have bought the car, or did some ******* research before you bought the car.. i get the same gas milage in the 8 as i did in the Trans am

dragula53

...with 1/2 the horsepower.

yep, flame suit is optional.

Don't defend the car's mileage. it's indefensible.

I liked owning the rx-8. I could have lived with the mileage.

9291150

You're right, mileage sucks.

But why use the 170whp figure rather than the more common examples in the mid 180's on non-mustang dynos. And thats without getting into the whole thorny issue of why 8's don't show well on 2 wheel dyno's. I just wonder what motivates people when they cherry pick stats.

Regardless, have fun with your STI!

Skiptomylue

Exactly,.. theres so many factors.. its like the supras being Dyno Queens.. they had terrible Traction.. but on the dynos could go 800 hp.. on the street.. because of their traction issues.. wouldnt be putting 800 to the wheels..

dragula53

correction: they could put 800 to the wheels, but not 800 to the ground.

a supra is a bad mammer jammer though 2JZ, 'nuff said.

bullet-proof inline-six engines. that's good stuff.

even if it is a fat ugly car.

dragula53

if I recall correctly, there are quite a few 160's dynos out there too. and a single 190.

I'll gladly humor you and let you have 180 though.... and we can assume that the rx-8 has 25% drivetrain loss.

F22C1

I love how there's always "exceptions" to this and that...

Unless mazda ups the ante, tomorrow's cars are going to offer even more bang for the buck! That's the truth.

yiksing

I'm just being realistic, there's only so much a good handling car can make up for its slow acceleration, a car is make to handle so that it can have high corner exit speed on that critical corner which still leads to a longest straight. Bottomline whoever goes faster on the straight has the advantage. I love my 8 but I happen to agree with Ike about the 8's potential, I'm not giving the 8 more credit than it deserved although I loved mine. The 8 is one of the slowest jap sportscar and that's just my opinion.

P.S. The Sultan wouldn't know what a RX-8 is, he's too busy customizing his wagon ferrari, his new Lambo, etc.

skillmaker

For all who keep saying that the Renesis is 2.6L, please tell me where you are
getting that number.

The MazdaUSA web site, and all of the technical materials I've ever been able to
find state that the Renesis is a 1.3L engine.

Now, if you are using a 'corrected' figure, or a comparison multiplier, then please
state so. According to the manufacturer, the engine does NOT displace 2.6L.

Thanks.

BlueEyes

2.6L is the number used to make comparisons with a 4-cycle piston engine. It's the displacement of a single thermodynamic cycle.

BlueEyes

Alright, it took me a couple seconds to remember the 4 stroke cycle, but here goes

In a 4 stroke piston engine, one cycle requires 720 degrees of crank rotation. In that 720 degrees, a rotary engine will go through 4 combustion cycles (recalling that the crank rotates at 1/3 the speed of the rotor). We know that 1 stroke of a rotary engine displaces 654cc. So 654cc x 4= 2616cc or 2.6L. The numbers worked, so I assume this is right.