RX-8 vs. S2K
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Originally Posted by Racer X-8
Horsepower is everything in the acceleration sections of a track (from the last part of a turn to the braking zone of the next). Those secitons are certainly significant parts of a track. So are the braking zones and the turns themselves, where horsepower doesn't help at all. It all depends on track geometry and, maybe moreso, the duration of the race.
Entering the main straight on lap one, that yellow car will pull away from that "RX-7" like it's graggin' anchor. At the end of the straight, that new lead is cut to nothing in the braking zone, but, the yellow car is in the lead.
It's hard as heck to get around that yellow car in the curvy parts because it takes up all of the track. You're potentially faster than the yellow car, but you can't get around that fat ***. So, in the beginning, if the yellow car is pretty fast for a muscle car, you just wait for a while.
Later on, it's tires get greasy and it's brakes go to the shitcan. It's like being held-up in rush hour traffic. Finally you get around it, usually in that same braking zone at the end of the main straight. Then it's asta la vista, baby!
Of course, it all depends on the pairings. We're not talking here about racing Mark Martin in his Watkins Glen - prepped Roush car. Then again, we're not talking about a formula 1 car either.
Entering the main straight on lap one, that yellow car will pull away from that "RX-7" like it's graggin' anchor. At the end of the straight, that new lead is cut to nothing in the braking zone, but, the yellow car is in the lead.
It's hard as heck to get around that yellow car in the curvy parts because it takes up all of the track. You're potentially faster than the yellow car, but you can't get around that fat ***. So, in the beginning, if the yellow car is pretty fast for a muscle car, you just wait for a while.
Later on, it's tires get greasy and it's brakes go to the shitcan. It's like being held-up in rush hour traffic. Finally you get around it, usually in that same braking zone at the end of the main straight. Then it's asta la vista, baby!
Of course, it all depends on the pairings. We're not talking here about racing Mark Martin in his Watkins Glen - prepped Roush car. Then again, we're not talking about a formula 1 car either.
Nope, we're talking about a GTO which would more than hold its own on mosr road courses against a RX-8 or S2K.
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From: Somewhere between Yesterday and Tomorrow.
No IKE, we're talking about"MY RX-7" and "ANY MUSCLE CAR". I was replying to rx8gurl.
I suppose if I wanted to buy a car for showroom stock racing, I would have to consider a GTO, nomatter how UGLY I think it looks.
Originally Posted by rx8gurl
yes it is, which means of course that your rx7 would always beat any muscle car in a track, right?
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its it not ugly at all. I guess you have to have a taste for it. Everyone thinks a car is ugly, I had pleanty of friends tell me the 8 looked like ***&% car, but I didint care.
I personally think the 8 looks better than the GTO, but I love the solid muscular curves of the goat, and the ls1 in front of it helps just a little.
People have to not get so caught up with their rides and think its master of all cars. I tought of that like the 8, until I was introduced with f0body's and american muscle
I personally think the 8 looks better than the GTO, but I love the solid muscular curves of the goat, and the ls1 in front of it helps just a little.
People have to not get so caught up with their rides and think its master of all cars. I tought of that like the 8, until I was introduced with f0body's and american muscle
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Originally Posted by Racer X-8
No IKE, we're talking about"MY RX-7" and "ANY MUSCLE CAR". I was replying to rx8gurl. I suppose if I wanted to buy a car for showroom stock racing, I would have to consider a GTO, nomatter how UGLY I think it looks.
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From: Somewhere between Yesterday and Tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm upset. I thought you were a friend of mine here. We had a lot of fun in the past here. I got you out of a lot of situations you got yourself into. The crap you posted here on me shows you're not a friend of mine. I've noticed you acting coldly before. You've had me wondering before. You leave no doubt here. So be it.
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The funny thing is that I read this whole thread looking for the post that started this mess and it stems from this page only. In any event you 2 should just kiss and make up. No need to get all hissy over what seems to be a misunderstanding.
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Originally Posted by Racer X-8
Yeah, I'm upset. I thought you were a friend of mine here. We had a lot of fun in the past here. I got you out of a lot of situations you got yourself into. The crap you posted here on me shows you're not a friend of mine. I've noticed you acting coldly before. You've had me wondering before. You leave no doubt here. So be it.
and by calling me a ***. I don't know about you getting me out of a lot of situations, I'm usually pretty good at that on my own. I certainly appreciate the friends I have here, yourself included.
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
The funny thing is that I read this whole thread looking for the post that started this mess and it stems from this page only. In any event you 2 should just kiss and make up. No need to get all hissy over what seems to be a misunderstanding.
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From: Somewhere between Yesterday and Tomorrow.
If we have to kiss, we're enemies forever. 
I guess the reason we weren't enemies long ago is that we didn't have cool smilies like these back then.
(I take it "
" works quite nicely too?)
I guess the reason we weren't enemies long ago is that we didn't have cool smilies like these back then.
(I take it "
" works quite nicely too?)
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From: Toronto/Florida
We all know it's just a front....you guys don't fool me.
IKE---"Awwww is someone upset?"
RACER X-8---"Yeah, I'm upset. I thought you were a "friend" of mine. We had a lot of "fun" in the past. I got you out of a lot of "situations" you got yourself into. I've noticed you acting coldly before. You've had me wondering before. You leave no doubt here. So be it."
Ike----------->
<-----------Racer x-8
Now kiss and make up already
IKE---"Awwww is someone upset?"
RACER X-8---"Yeah, I'm upset. I thought you were a "friend" of mine. We had a lot of "fun" in the past. I got you out of a lot of "situations" you got yourself into. I've noticed you acting coldly before. You've had me wondering before. You leave no doubt here. So be it."
Ike----------->
<-----------Racer x-8Now kiss and make up already
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yeah, so on topic, i think you should get the s2k, it outperforms the rx8 and is a convertable(your preference) and since its gonna be a fun car for you the practicality and luxury of the 8 is null meaning you should go for the s2k since its fun you're looking for, not utility and fun.
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I have an AP1 S2000 for fun and an E46 M3 for daily I'm now looking to sell my S2000 and pick up a Rx8. I really like the S2000 and I feel that it handles better than the rx8. I believe with drivers of the same skill the S2000 will be better on track and in a straight line but it rattles, lots of road noise when the top is up, hard to see the back unless the top is down, if you lean the chair too far back it squeeks from rubbing againts the rear, passenger seat belt always makes noise when no one is using it because it hits the door or plastic around the door area, 2nd gear grind (I hate that and its not just mine its a lot of S2k's) Also constantly worrying if someone slashed your top or not.
If you get an AP2 S2000 (2004+) they redline at 8k not 9k.
*Edit*
I forgot to mention, I LOVE the sound of the renesis engine inside the cabin!!
If you get an AP2 S2000 (2004+) they redline at 8k not 9k.
*Edit*
I forgot to mention, I LOVE the sound of the renesis engine inside the cabin!!
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The S2000 never became an all time favorite in Europe. CAR magazine said it was too tail happy for them. Mags in Spain like it, but say it is far too uncompromised.
Mags in spain dynoed it at 220 flywheel HP, the 8 has been dynoed at 226.
0-62.5 Mph the 8 was marginally faster.
Mags in spain dynoed it at 220 flywheel HP, the 8 has been dynoed at 226.
0-62.5 Mph the 8 was marginally faster.
wuz so funny bout that????
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Originally Posted by 124Spider
In that test the S2000 did even better that in the previous one I saw (233 FLYWHEEL HP VS 220) but only managed a 7,27 sec 0-100 Km/h or 62,5 Mph. The car is advertised at 240 Hp here.
Guess you get the supersonic S2K in the US
