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Old 04-08-2004, 06:28 AM
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Considered the G35 very briefly because it got good reviews. The styling didn't do anything for me at all. Then realized there aren't many dealerships and the closest one is about 30miles away. That was an open and closed evaluation that took about ten minutes tops.

The Chrysler Crossfire was at the top of my list (styling baby!) and the RX-8 was 2nd. The 8 one out mostly due to the larger cabin. The Crossfire cabin was just too small!

I've got my eyes on that Saturn Curve though. I'm dying to see what that actually comes out looking like in 2006.

NO!
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One more trolling comment out of you and you are banned. You've been warned several times now, and you can't even give me a good reason for your behavior.
Why did you consider his comment trolling? Is it because he said something negative about the 8? Not flaming, just wondering.
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Originally posted by zthang
Why did you consider his comment trolling? Is it because he said something negative about the 8? Not flaming, just wondering.
Because it was. He makes 1 ridiculous claim for no reason. And he even manages to screw up the numbers as well.

If your sole consideration for a a car being better is HP then your ignorant and lazy, plain and simple.
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Zthang, I sent you a pm.
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ditto...he screwed up numbers i.e. rwhp vs. engine hp.
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sup guys!

i will choose G35 coupe

anyway, there are some fact that you guys think wrong about these two cars!

1. i saw a lot of peeps saying rx8 has better handling? (how you gonna prove it?) i think g35 coupe handling is better than rx8 (atleast i have prove showing you all know best motoring video)

2. styling! i love how rx8 looks ! there are no second thought, rx8 is better looking!

3. g35 coupe is more expensive car! (i got rx8 for 29500 with navi full option, i got g35 coupe 6spd aero/premium package for 38xxx there are no deals for g35 coupe 6 spd, yes other g35 coupe has better deal but for 6spd you won't get any deal and you might need to wait 1 or 2 months to get it)

4. girls love rx-8 all my female friend told me that rx-8 look way better ( yeah yeah yeah i went over this already but )

5. rx-8 gas milage suck! come on mang you all know how shitty it is.

6. interiorr in rx-8 is better than g35c (in my opinion) but g35c is more confortable.

7. rx-8 sports looking car, g35 coupe pimp looking car!

8. it is infiniti not mazda! (better value)

i think i did wrote wat i think about these two cars so now it is your choice budy but one more thing!
MOST OF GIRLS LOVE PIMP RID THAN SEMI JAP SPORTS CAR!
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Originally posted by jdmlover79
sup guys!

i will choose G35 coupe

anyway, there are some fact that you guys think wrong about these two cars!

1. i saw a lot of peeps saying rx8 has better handling? (how you gonna prove it?) i think g35 coupe handling is better than rx8 (atleast i have prove showing you all know best motoring video)
A better way to prove it instead of watching a video might be to drive both cars over the same curves and corners several hundred times over a few months. I have done that and the RX-8 is much better in my hands.

2. styling! i love how rx8 looks ! there are no second thought, rx8 is better looking!

3. g35 coupe is more expensive car! (i got rx8 for 29500 with navi full option, i got g35 coupe 6spd aero/premium package for 38xxx there are no deals for g35 coupe 6 spd, yes other g35 coupe has better deal but for 6spd you won't get any deal and you might need to wait 1 or 2 months to get it)
Grubbs is selling all G35s (sedan, coupes, 6MT or 5AT) for $500 above invoice without haggling (VPP pricing) for several months now. When I got my G35 they also offered free shipping anywhere in the USA (now costs $600 outside TX).

4. girls love rx-8 all my female friend told me that rx-8 look way better ( yeah yeah yeah i went over this already but )

5. rx-8 gas milage suck! come on mang you all know how shitty it is.
I am averaging 20mpg in the G35 vs 17 in the RX-8, so yes it is better.

6. interiorr in rx-8 is better than g35c (in my opinion) but g35c is more confortable.
I find the seats of the G35 quite uncomfortable, but the G35 has a lot of good features/gadgets.

7. rx-8 sports looking car, g35 coupe pimp looking car!

8. it is infiniti not mazda! (better value)
Actually I have had some bad luck with my G35 (engine flooding... due to hurricane) and the Infiniti service has been amazing.

i think i did wrote wat i think about these two cars so now it is your choice budy but one more thing!
MOST OF GIRLS LOVE PIMP RID THAN SEMI JAP SPORTS CAR!
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I love my RX-8. I did shop the G35C but the dealer was such an *** I had no problem choosing the 8.
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Originally posted by pelucidor
A better way to prove it instead of watching a video might be to drive both cars over the same curves and corners several hundred times over a few months. I have done that and the RX-8 is much better in my hands.

Grubbs is selling all G35s (sedan, coupes, 6MT or 5AT) for $500 above invoice without haggling (VPP pricing) for several months now. When I got my G35 they also offered free shipping anywhere in the USA (now costs $600 outside TX).

I am averaging 20mpg in the G35 vs 17 in the RX-8, so yes it is better.

I find the seats of the G35 quite uncomfortable, but the G35 has a lot of good features/gadgets.

Actually I have had some bad luck with my G35 (engine flooding... due to hurricane) and the Infiniti service has been amazing.

No comment.
and you had g35 sedan!
you know the difference between sedan and coupe right?
incase you don't know let me tell you
g35 coupe has longer wheel base so it doesn't feel the same way
it has much better handling than sedans and also they have differet seat too.(if you look carefully sedan and coupe seats are a lot different.)
personly i think coupe looks way better and not only me but most of peeps think same way i do.(compare with g35 sedan)
maybe you had bad luck not because of your car, i think it is you, no offence but where you live and how you drive is matter. not a car

so you shouldn't compare with rx-8
if i have to choose between rx-8 or g35 sedan ! come on now i rather have rx-8.
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i love my rx8! simply love it! but if given the chance to get the g35, while keeping the 8, i'd jump on it in a second. but if i'd have to give up the 8? then no. I love the g35, seriously considered getting one, but after driving the 8, and researching its history/heritage i can't think of ever choosing the 8 over the g35. its a great car though, with top notch interior - probably better than my 8, ample room. i love the fact that when you try to get into the backseat, the front seat automatically rolls forward via motors to give you room, and rolls back to its original position without you having to do a thing. its too bad i dont like sitting in the back seat (headroom was less than adequate). the g35 is a gorgious car from any angle, but its just so common that it doesn't turn heads like my 8. the cars engine felt very powerful, didn't appreciate the torque steer much but the exhaust note was classy. the display is sharp as well. the leather i think is definitely better than the 8's leather. but in the end, its still not a rotary driven Rx8! i need the sharp cornering and the even sharper (imo) design. the smooth reving to 9k! the quietness of the motor that lets me sneak up on other cars w/o being noticed! the attention to detail and the backseats! i love the suicide doors, everyone turns to look when i open it, too bad its a pain in the *** to open in a tight parking spot. the rx8 is definitely the car for me.
if you're going to do this for real, more power to you, i'm sure you'll love the g35 as much as i love the 8. just please please do me a favor and do not put the nissan/skyline decal on the rear.
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Originally posted by RX8Bliss


(1) with top notch interior - probably better than my 8

(2) i love the fact that when you try to get into the backseat, the front seat automatically rolls forward via motors to give you room, and rolls back to its original position without you having to do a thing

(3) the display is sharp as well

(4) the leather i think is definitely better than the 8's leather

(5) too bad its a pain [the RX8] in the *** to open in a tight parking spot
Statements 1, 3, and 5 are bewildering. Statement 2 makes little sense considering the motorized "slow" motion of the seat is impractical and a common criticism of the auto magazines. I have collected information that goes against statement 4. At first glance, the G35 coupe's leather seats appear to be more supple and of higher quality, yet there is plenty of evidence that they fade and wear out EXTREMELY FAST. High quality sofas with incredibly supple leather do not do that even with a ton of usage. The fact is the RX8's leather seats maintain themselves a lot better. I have even found through my own examination that the "cheesy" plastic pieces are in strategic positions that are touched first and more often (high-wear areas) during entry and exit. Thus, it is clear to me that the RX8's seats took more thought and are better engineered than the G35's.
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Ok first off for the record I do own a G35 Coupe.

Second I am not "trolling", I do have first amendment rights, and I do have a brain that is capable of forming opinions.


Value. The fact is that the G is an "Infiniti" and the RX-8 is a "Mazda". You figure it out. Yes it may technically be a "Nissan" but does that make a Mercedez a Chrysler? or a Porshce a VW? ....answer...No. Not to mention that the G received the best score as far as depreciation goes for any coupe.

Styling. Yes the RX-8's styling does appeal to the younger crowd. I will admit that its aggressive and fun to look at. But the aggressive styling also hurts the car. Imagine trying to sell this thing in 4 years? ....This is why the Big 3 (MB, BMW, Audi) has been around for so long...they won't venture to design something like the rx-8.....The styling is too unique.... The G maintains a nice subtle aggressive coupe look while also maintaing a "classic" look. I'm 23 but could see my 56 year old dad in my G....imagine him getting out of an RX-8....foolish to say the least. But yes the RX-8 does look good.

Side note: Chics dig the G...its an Infiniti. enough said. Yes America does place that much value on brand...sorry but its the truth.

The Overall Drive: Did anyone see all the videos? The RX-8 barely kept up....even in the twisties. I have never driven an RX-8 so I'm not going to compare any further. I've seen one on the highway while driving and we gave each other a thumbs up.

In closing....

Both cars are nice cars and we should be happy that we have them. I loved the RX-8 when it came out and still have the little poster that came with my Maxim, but I decided that the G35 was right for me. I wouldn't take a RX-8 over my G but I would take an RX-8 if you gave one too me.

My top list under 50k

My top 3 coupes: Overall

1. G35c (GT coupe) 350z (true sports coupe) same
2. 330ci
3. RX-8

My top 3 coupes: Styling

1. RX-8
2. G35c
3. 350z
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Now your talkin..........SL55
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I just saw on the SSR-Engineering website that they released their twin turbo kit.

They claim that it makes around 600 hp!! Don't know if thats to the wheels or at the crank... but it's impressive either way.

Just thought I'd throw that out there... and hopefully someone will buy the kit soon so we can here some feedback... Maybe SixOne can buy it first????
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Nah quite alright, but thanks The G's turbo kits are only getting it to 400+ for over 7k after install.....I think it'd have to hit 600+ before I touched 7k.

Im not denying the RX-8 is a fast coupe.....i mean sedan....uhm...car thingy. Like I said before...I can't comment on performance. Anyone in the Boston area want to meet and let me take one for a spin?
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Sixone, I appreciate your opinion so please take no offense when I give my counter arguments. I like that we can have other views on the board to help keep us all in check.

I think the G35 is an excellent car, but I obviously chose a RX8 over it when I had the choice.

Originally posted by SixOne
Ok first off for the record I do own a G35 Coupe.

Second I am not "trolling", I do have first amendment rights, and I do have a brain that is capable of forming opinions.


Value. The fact is that the G is an "Infiniti" and the RX-8 is a "Mazda". You figure it out. Yes it may technically be a "Nissan" but does that make a Mercedez a Chrysler? or a Porshce a VW? ....answer...No. Not to mention that the G received the best score as far as depreciation goes for any coupe.

The difference between a Mercedes and a Chrysler are massive. Mercedes and Chrysler only recently joined and parts sharing has only begun, but in the other direction. Mercedes is using older platform higher quality parts that have already had the cost of R&D associated and passing those down to Chrysler thus bringing up the value of Chrysler. They are mostly two different lines of cars and those newer ones that do share (Crossfire) are of much nicer quality. So no, Mercedes is not a Chrysler, but Chrysler is a Mercedes.

Porsche and VW have nothing to do with each other except some platform sharing, more recently on the Tourag/Cayenne. In fact, Porsche has recently decided to use the VW 3.2l V6 in a lower priced base model. Very very similar vehicle but still accounted for by two completely different companies with a very drastic price difference and major mechanical difference.

Nissan has a single engine powering no less than 7 different vehicles from trucks to coupes to sedans. From fwd to rwd to awd. Several of these also share the same platform. The functional difference between an Infiniti and a Nissan is in body and interior. Everything else is pretty much the same. The G35 is a 2+2 350Z with more weight and less power on a slightly longer wheelbase. As it consists of the same major mechanical parts and is built in the same factories I faile to see where the higher quality level comes from. I think it is just perception in the mind. It is still built with Nissan quality. Least we forget, the Infinit G35 is the Nissan Skyline Coupe in Japan so it is in fact a Nissan. Infiniti is a name for the important American market where people will pay more for perceived image.




Styling. Yes the RX-8's styling does appeal to the younger crowd. I will admit that its aggressive and fun to look at. But the aggressive styling also hurts the car. Imagine trying to sell this thing in 4 years? ....This is why the Big 3 (MB, BMW, Audi) has been around for so long...they won't venture to design something like the rx-8.....The styling is too unique.... The G maintains a nice subtle aggressive coupe look while also maintaing a "classic" look. I'm 23 but could see my 56 year old dad in my G....imagine him getting out of an RX-8....foolish to say the least. But yes the RX-8 does look good.
Please explain the range of owners on here if you think a 56 year old driving a RX8 is silly.

I am also interested in how exactly you think the Bangle school of thought at BMW is anything but controversial. What about the new front end Audi is going with. That sure is mixing up a storm in itself.

It is more like the Japanese who tend to make very bland non offensive and unoriginal styling. Go look at a Camry or Accord. How about the S2000 or Miata for having safe classic styling?


Side note: Chics dig the G...its an Infiniti. enough said. Yes America does place that much value on brand...sorry but its the truth.
I am in America. I do not place that much value on brand. Nor do most my friends. Do we not count? ( I also found I do not need my car to pick up girls, just to take them home. They seem to like me without the car. funny)

I guess I do have to concede this one or Nissan would not have seen fit to make a larger profit margin and create the Inifinti brand.


The Overall Drive: Did anyone see all the videos? The RX-8 barely kept up....even in the twisties. I have never driven an RX-8 so I'm not going to compare any further. I've seen one on the highway while driving and we gave each other a thumbs up.

I do not have to watch the videos. I have taken my car on a track. I know who wins in a race has a lot to do with the driver. I know what my car feels like and what makes the RX8 the perfect car for me. It is the ultimate track/street car for me. I feel like I have had to make little compromise with it.





In closing....

Both cars are nice cars and we should be happy that we have them. I loved the RX-8 when it came out and still have the little poster that came with my Maxim, but I decided that the G35 was right for me. I wouldn't take a RX-8 over my G but I would take an RX-8 if you gave one too me.
Agreed. This is what it all really comes down to. It is nice to see new affordable rwd sporty cars coming out of Japan again. I am all for all of them.

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Thanks for taking that one, Murix, so I don't have to.

SixOne apparently didn't investigate the background of that video and did not see the other video. ALL of the information is on this forum. Why don't you do a search?

Hopefully, 61 is not an IQ score.
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Eh.... what exactly is the background of the BM video? (With the exception that it sparked a 17 page long flame war with about 15 pages of false claims, guesses and driver bashing.)

I have autoX in both a G35 sedan and coupe, and I will tell you first hand that the performance characteristics of these two cars are significantly different. The G35 sedan has noticeably less grip, more roll, and more body flex than the coupe, but it also understeers less at the limits. The G35 coupe is more responsible, more precise handling, more grip and more stable around bends. Engine performance wise I can hardly tell the difference under 5000rpm. I have also drove a RX-8 on some spirited runs. I don't care what magazines says, the RX-8 is simply more nimble than the G35C/350Z. More nimble, more tossable, and less understeer. However, the RX-8 has significantly more roll, significantly less torque, and less grip overall than the G35C.

I don't know about the durability of RX-8 interior materials (including leather) but I owned a Mazda Millenia S for 7 years. The wear and tear in the Millenia was very poor. As far as the G35, I havn't heard too many complaints regarding interior wear and tear with the exception of scratched silver plastic on the center console.

As far as platform sharing in Nissan camp:

The G35C is a Nissan Skyline, which is a 2+2 350Z with luxury in mind. While nearly all the performance aspects are the same, the Skyline has more comfort and amenity features to make it a more suitable car for a daily driver. Some people insist on calling Infiniti upscale Nissans, but keep in mind the G35 was originally conceived as a Infiniti XLV, then rebadged to be a Nissan Skyline in Japan.
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Originally posted by PhineasFellOff
Hopefully, 61 is not an IQ score.
Nope its my height. Defend your purchase...its only right.

p.s. he didn't take anything. no points were made.
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Small coupes for small men....Big Coupes and Big Horses for bigger Men. 6'1" and im out.

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Originally posted by SixOne
Nope its my height. Defend your purchase...its only right.

p.s. he didn't take anything. no points were made.
Actually, as you know, he scored a bunch of points off your clueless statements.
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Originally posted by SixOne
Small coupes for small men....Big Coupes and Big Horses for bigger Men. 6'1" and im out.
You were "out" a long time ago. In fact, neither you nor intelligence ever showed up.
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I have autoX in both a G35 sedan and coupe, and I will tell you first hand that the performance characteristics of these two cars are significantly different. The G35 sedan has noticeably less grip, more roll, and more body flex than the coupe, but it also understeers less at the limits. The G35 coupe is more responsible, more precise handling, more grip and more stable around bends.
Did the G35 Sedan you drove have the 6MT with Sports Package (summer tires, sports suspension etc)?
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Originally posted by pelucidor
Did the G35 Sedan you drove have the 6MT with Sports Package (summer tires, sports suspension etc)?
specially g35 sedan is for familly come on now!
i mention a lot of OFFICIAL FACT! where is my reply?
let me add more they DO NOT SHARE SAME SUSPENSION SET!
(they use softer springs on sedans)
but it was my bad they SHARE same wheel base

I DO NOT TRY TO SAY SEDAN IS CRAP OR SOMETHING BUT TRUTH IS TRUTH.
for 1/4 mile time yeah they are realy realy close!


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