mazda needs to turbo it!!!
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No they don't.
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Yes they do need to put a twin turbo in it. Let face it, the RX-8 is a fun car to drive but it is WAY underpowered. Most of the fun of a sports car is in the lower end torque...which as we all know did not come standard in the 8. BTW the latest pics of the RX9 looks like the 370z. Time to test drive that Camaro...
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Originally Posted by He11bent
(Post 3192023)
Yes they do need to put a twin turbo in it. Let face it, the RX-8 is a fun car to drive but it is WAY underpowered. Most of the fun of a sports car is in the lower end torque...which as we all know did not come standard in the 8. BTW the latest pics of the RX9 looks like the 370z. Time to test drive that Camaro...
A turbo is not needed. You don't know what numbers the 16x is going to put out, so saying it "NEEDS" to be turbo'd because you're expectations on what power it needs is not met *of course, those expectations will never be met....it will always need to be faster.* /end rant |
Screw twin turbo. I want quad turbos. :p:
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Originally Posted by CyberPitz
(Post 3192279)
Yeah, let's twin turbo the Renesis. Let's totally forget about why the 3rd gen was a mechanical nightmare! It had cooling issues and troubleshooting a vacuum leak was harder than reaching up and touching the moon. We can't forget the few reasons they didn't turbo the rx8. Cost, reliability *Adding more to an engine...more to go wrong...* and emissions. Solve that for them, and they may be able to slap the turbo on.
A turbo is not needed. You don't know what numbers the 16x is going to put out, so saying it "NEEDS" to be turbo'd because you're expectations on what power it needs is not met *of course, those expectations will never be met....it will always need to be faster.* /end rant There are a lot of manufacturers with reliable turboed cars out there like BMW, Audii, VW, Ford (but it is still a ford), Nissan, Pontiac, etc. Why not Mazda? Oh because YOU made that business decision! :SHOCKED: The engine is under powered on the low end. This is not speculation, it is fact. It needs some air. Mazda can build it better and should. Mazda builds a nice car, I believe they can build the next toy to compete with the valve rattlers. One last note, this was not an inexpensive car and the new 8 is over $30K. I have no doubt the next one will cost even more. If they didnt put put turbos in it for cost savings, it was to increase their margin not yours! |
I think that it doesn't need turbos but i say why not have an option for the turbocharged car. Make it more expensive and try to make it more reliable unlike the 7.
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This is sad news. Close to 270 bhp from 1.6 is not good. Assuming it retains a similar, or even slightly better Torque per liter ratio, then the only way it could make less than 270 bhp is by making peak power at less than the current 8500, which most likely means a lower redline. Add to this a missing clutch pedal and you have effectively deleted two of the current rotary sports best attributes: Super high redline and near perfect six speed manual. Way to go mazda, I think these are great ideas.
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Gotta have a clutch and MT. The more crap they add on the more expensive the maintenance. Keep it the way it is just increase BHP.
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Originally Posted by renesisgenesis
(Post 3194482)
This is sad news. Close to 270 bhp from 1.6 is not good. Assuming it retains a similar, or even slightly better Torque per liter ratio, then the only way it could make less than 270 bhp is by making peak power at less than the current 8500, which most likely means a lower redline. Add to this a missing clutch pedal and you have effectively deleted two of the current rotary sports best attributes: Super high redline and near perfect six speed manual. Way to go mazda, I think these are great ideas.
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Originally Posted by 77mjd
(Post 3194710)
270 might not be as bad as you think. Who knows what the new car would weigh in at? Maybe they can make it 500lbs lighter.
0-60 will be about 5.5-6.0. quarter mile right about 14.0 the miata is their "light" car. there's no way it will be 2500 pounds. thin about 3100-3200. |
RX-8 Replacement to be called RX-9??!!??
More info from "Inside Sources at Mazda" on the RX-8 replacement....to be called the RX-9
http://www.4wheelsnews.com/mazda-rx-...ails-revealed/ According to our source from Mazda, we found out today that the Japanese manufacturer is currently working on the next-generation of the RX-8, dubbed the RX-9. Regarding the design of the car, few facts were confirmed: that the new vehicle will borrow the design lines from the Taiki Concept (shown in the photo and unveiled back in 2007 at the Tokyo Motor Show) and that the suicide doors found on the current version will also find their place in this new car. As you expected, the engine of the car will be a revolutionary 1.6-liter Birotor engine capable to develop around 300 hp. A debut is expected in 2012 but we might see this car earlier, our source confirmed. |
All good news, except the suicide doors part. I want a light-ass 2 seater :(
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Aw man.. half makes me wish I had waited to get mine.. dohhh.. well.. good thing is, I'm still leasing, huzzah!
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Is that reliable info???
So I guess they'll retain RX-8 as a 4 seater coupe, thats not bad. I wonder what they will do about a rotary 2 seater. Engine option on the next gen MX-5? ________ Sexy_Blondy cam |
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3237188)
the new vehicle will borrow the design lines from the Taiki Concept (shown in the photo and unveiled back in 2007 at the Tokyo Motor Show) and that the suicide doors found on the current version will also find their place in this new car.[/B][/I]
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Seriously, can't they just make a 2-seater already? They already have all the parts they need from the 8 and miata.
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That sounds wonderful. I really like the 8, don't want a two-seater...I can't wait until I can get a 9 used a depreciated!
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Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 3237710)
Hard to imagine suicide doors on anything that looks much like the Taiki.
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Originally Posted by kersh4w
(Post 3238412)
the front will be where they draw the inspiration. i doubt the side and rear will be used.
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the sides and rear will be used just not as dramatically. expect to see that line of the side and the pinching at the waist with the body sculpted out to the wheels instead of "outriggers"
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Originally Posted by zoom44
(Post 3238980)
the sides and rear will be used just not as dramatically. expect to see that line of the side and the pinching at the waist with the body sculpted out to the wheels instead of "outriggers"
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Originally Posted by zoom44
(Post 3238980)
the sides and rear will be used just not as dramatically. expect to see that line of the side and the pinching at the waist with the body sculpted out to the wheels instead of "outriggers"
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Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3239408)
MMMmmm Inspector Charlie...do YOU know something WE Don't...AyE :scratchhe
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Originally Posted by RMXG8
(Post 3141037)
mazda needs to turbo it!!!
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
(Post 3141495)
No they don't.
Originally Posted by He11bent
(Post 3192023)
Yes they do need to put a twin turbo in it.
Originally Posted by RX-8GT6spd
(Post 3194389)
I think that it doesn't need turbos
Originally Posted by Renesis_8
(Post 3239166)
I hope their new suicide doors don't add 200lbs to the car
These plans are full of win though! Bravo Mazda!!! :ylsuper: |
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