PotatoSoup

I'm pretty sure the new Taurus shares a platform with the S80, not the S60.

Also, with a base price of $38K, they're nuts. That's twin-turbo territory of a different kind...BMW.

zoom44

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and im sorry i cant find the twin turbo 365 hp awd full sized BMW that starts at 38k?

PotatoSoup

You know what I mean. If somebody wants a twin-turbo sports sedan and has $38K (lets say $40K) to spend, I think they'll choose a 335 over the Taurus, size aside.

And the SHO might go fast in a straight line, but it's going to be heavy and far from "fun to drive" in the bends.

People here bitch nonstop about how heavy cars are getting, so I don't expect this to get much love from the RX-8/Mazda community.

9krpmrx8

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In general, Ford sucks. 38k for a Ford sedan? Please. They eak out a good car here and there and they make okay trucks but the car department is very weak in terms of excitement. Then again, if my RX8 wasnt so damn fun to drive and sexy as hell I would have gotten rid of it long ago due o the QC issues.

ndhoffma

Something tells me someone looking for a full size sedan wouldn't be considering a 3 series... I agree, Id rather have the sports car, but when the new Taurus is bigger than a crown vic, I'd guess the compact sports sedan market was not what they were aiming for


And FYI, their 'okay' trucks had been the best selling vehicles worldwide for 20odd years

PotatoSoup

Somebody looking to spend $38K on a full size sedan that can still haul some butt would also be silly to not consider a G8 or even a CPO LS, 7-Series, or S-Class.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I think this new, expensive full-size SHO is answering a question that nobody asked.

9krpmrx8

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Yeah thanks, my dad owned around 30-40 F150's over the years for his appliance repair business and they did okay for the most part mechanically but they were not the best by any means compared to the Two Nissan hard bodies he had that were sold with over 250k on the odometer. The hard Bodies were the first trucks purchased for the business and were sold when the business was sold to another franchisee.

Once Nissan came out with a 1/2 ton he bought a Titan in 04' and he never went back. The 3/4 ton Ford trucks are capable but do some research on the 6.0's and you'll find out just how Ford Tough they are. Every manufacturer has mistakes but in my experience, he Japanese just do everything better overall. I do think Dodge makes a solid truck though. My buddys owns a repo business and he has two Dodge Dually's with over 500k on the odometer on his older one and it works every night with no issues. His new one is just sweet, it tows a six car carrier with ease (it has some mods though).

renesisking

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yea everyone knows or should know that the 03-05 6.0's were terrible, thats why they had the 7.3L still available as an option. As far as the F-150 goes, no truck is built stronger out on the market. I have proof of it, and i know personally what these trucks are capable of. Japanese trucks so far havent been reliable, i have personally taken in about 9 titans and 6 tundras simply because they do not do what a truck is intended to do. As far as daily drivers they are great, but they are simply not work trucks in any way. Back to the SHO. I just read motortrends article...0-60 in 4.8secs isnt bad for that size car with 365hp and 25mpg. Id say thats pretty good. Now don't get me wrong, it is by no means a performance machine, im sure it'll handle like **** but then again its just supposed to a quick family sedan and ford hit the nail on the head on that aspect. Also the interior is amazing. I have a lot of people interested in buying the 2010 taurus already so its looking good so far. Im happy thats its a Ford Engine and not a Yamaha. We all know what those were like.

Lithium Lotus

Someone made this on another forum to prove a point.


What do all of these cars have in common? They all have the same general cookie-cutter design due to new bumper height requirements and the need for fuel efficiency using aerodynamics. That, and they are all bland and boring looking. At least the Taurus SHO has some power and looks aggressive in comparison to these.

Nissan Sentra


Nissan Maxima


Nissan Altima


Honda Accord


Acura TL


Toyota Camry


Toyota Corolla


Mazda 6


Chevrolet Malibu


Infiniti G37


Lexus GS


Hyundai Sonata


Audi A6


Subaru Legacy


BMW 5-Series


Mitsubishi Galant


Volkswagen Passat

The 09 Passat looks 1,000 times better then the 08 though

Lithium Lotus

It somewhat resembles an 09 Passat

kvndoom

[QUOTE=Lithium Lotus;2866965]It somewhat resembles an 09 Passat



That's the Passat CC, which is a new (and awesome) car. The regular Passat is still around, but VW should can it and just use the CC for their luxury model. And I agree on the new dull "yuppie driving appliance" look of all these modern sedans. The new Acura looks horrendous compared to the previous model, and the new 6 looks like a Camry. I sat in one of the 2009's at the dealership while I was getting my inspection done, and it felt just as cheap on the inside (read: VERY) as the 2006 I have now. With all the squeaks and rattles driving me crazy in that car after only 3 years, I wouldn't dare touch another one.

pdxhak

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Just saw a commercial the other night on TV and thought it looked good! I was a fan of the original SHO as well.

CarAndDriver

I predict the SHO will be a sales failure for Ford unfortunately. The car is way to big. I love how one of the car mags put it side by side with the original SHOs. It was as if Godzilla stood by some Komodo dragons.

The straightline performance seems competitive, but it looks to have weak brakes and just has a lot of mass to be super agile through corners. It is in a very tough market segment with some really great cars with stronger brands.

One journalist said a Fusion SHO would be truer to the original SHO intent and would be cheaper and probably a better success. I have to agree.

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

I hate to jack but I have to respond to this. My dad has a 04' Titan as his daily driver with 140k or so on the odometer and it is used at least one a month to pull a 5th wheel RV. We have done several long trips to off road parks as far as Florida and the Titan has towed that thing reliably like it wasn't even back there. Plus we have pulled many a fence posts and stumps out with it. The only mod he has is air bags in the rear and a leveling kit in the front. Not bad for a 1/2 ton if you ask me. What else is a truck intended to do? I also have a friend that works for Toyota who drives a fully loaded Tundra and it does just fine towing his boat to the coast.

chickenwafer

iTrader: (9)

I like the new SHO. I'm not a fan of Ford's but I think it looks good for what it is (sport sedan) and can compete at half the price of Audi's. The twin turbo, direct injected V-6 and all-wheel drive is pretty slick.

Since I know Ford and Mazda do platform sharing, wouldn't it be cool if the next gen Mazdaspeed6 gets the EcoBoost twin turbo V-6 and all-wheel drive lifted from the SHO?! That would be SICK

rodjonathan

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i think the americans are making a comeback ... the g8(bye bye sadly), camaro, cts/cts-v, ford SHO, lincoln mks, malibu(to a certain extent), and the trucks are all REALLY REALLY good for a cery reasonable price ... ive driven everything listed except the mks so im saying this from experience theyre really good ... handling looks fit and finish (quality may lack in some cases) but for the price theyre all a steal and i think they deserve credit for trying and succeeding they will be back