myriadshalaks

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it seems to me like the perfect combo. it makes me wonder why lotus doesn't consider a rotary.

tjbourgoyne

A novelty car or the unusual factor would be the only standout reason to do it.

Detrich

in chinese culture we call notions like that as:

吃飽飯沒事幹
chi bao fan, mei shi gan

KoHC

Reminds me of this

yiksing

Would engine cooling be a much worse issue by dumping it in the elise?

myriadshalaks

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Eats to the full the food to be all right does???

BlueEyes

Seems like a pretty bad idea. You'd have to spend thousands to gain what? maybe 10-20 rwhp? Doesn't really seem worth it.

myriadshalaks

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it would be a hawt and fast wankle rotary. if you dropped 1000 lbs off your 8, you'd go a lot faster. you'd corner quicker. but you'd be ugly doing it. it wouldn't look stock at all. putting the engine in the light elise frame gives you the styling and the weight advantage.

therm8

I doubt the Elise' radiator is sufficient for a rotary, and I'm not so sure you could fit one much bigger under the clam. worth a look though, if you've got the dough to even attempt this.

LostAngel

The renesis weighs more than the 2ZZ celica engine in the Elise, so any SMALL gains in power the renesis would give, wouldn't make up for the weight.

Mazmart

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What's the weight of the 2ZZ for comparison sake?

Paul.

LostAngel

2ZZ-GE = 115lbs

Last I heard the Renesis is 245 lbs

DARKMAZ8

That cant be right

RotarySpirit

It's like, "You've eaten until you're full and you've got nothing you have to do."

dpmdc

I'm new here, I just noticed there is some interest in the Diasio D962R and also a Elise conversion to get more HP.

I own a D962R and have a heavily modified Elise (Turbo ForcedFed 325 HP, Carbon Fiber body, etc.) so what do you need to know?

The Diasio is clearly a faster and a better handling car hands down.

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BigRed

damn, sequential gearbox and all. thats amazing^

Jedi54

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didn't some big Mazda Exec in Japan say he wanted to do this to his Elise?

dpmdc

The Elise is just fine with the base engine boosted. ForcedFed can take it up to 480 HP.

The Hewland is a marvelous transaxle but the downside is replacement of parts every 3000 miles (ring and pinion with shims) which runs about $5000 and hopefully the gears are all OK or up that number yet again a few thousand. That needs to be factored in when you think about a conversion, so it's not practical.

9291150

Nonsense, 1000cc sportbike engines weigh more than that.

Regardless, weight is only one benefit. The biggest benefit of a rotary is the small size which enables it sit lower and farther back than any piston engine. It’s the #1 reason the 8 handles so well, and I’m sure it would benefit the Elise the same way.

Otherwise, the hp advantage over the Toyota isn’t huge and can easily be overcome with FI, so it’s not worth the huge expense if your looking for extra hp. But I’d much rather have a smooth rotary with a perfectly linear power curve (that can shift all day at 9300rpm) than any 4 banger.

Razz1

Ja, but put a turbo'd Renesis in the Elise.

Tigster

your wrong on the weight of the stock lotus engine it is 115 KG

That equates to = approx 253 lbs


If you dont believe me then read towards to bottom here....

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...ne/toyota.html


(google is your friend)

Ike

For the rotary freaks it would be neat. However, all you're really gaining is the feel of the rotary. Horsepower stock isn't nearly as different as the BHP numbers indicate, you'd be gaining weight with the renesis, and losing reliability and gas mileage. Plus, with the turbo kits avilable for the Elise you're looking at more horsepower than any turbo kit for the RX-8, plus I believe the fuel cut is at nearly 9000rpms. The benefits of positioning of the Renesis and CoG, would be minimal if there actually are any benefits.

9291150

^ huh? a switch to the renesis should;
- gain about 20hp at the wheels
- likely loose weight; everyone quotes the renesis fully dressed incl. the flywheel at 260, but the engine itself weighs 180, I betcha the 250 pounds quoted for the toyota is engine weight only)
- reliability isn't a point worth mentioning
- to say that a smaller engine and its potential packaging benefits would make no differences handling wise is to ignore physics
- toyota's redline is 1200rpm sooner

Tigster

I would just put the s2000 motor into it. Takes to boost much better (espically than the renesis), and there are already people that made the swap. Not to mention you can use an AEM standalone and really tune the engine.

mac11

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how the hell do you figure an 11.0:1 motor takes to boost better? Without lowering the compression of the s2000 motor most kits only push 5-8psi on pump gas. anything above that you need to start mixing your own exotic fuels or paying 4.50+/gallon for the high test stuff. Where as the Renesis you can easily pump 10-12psi on. And I'm sure it weighs more.