An R-34 for $4,000?
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From: atlanta ga
Originally Posted by SBZRO
As a former Nissan enthusiast, I will tell you now that there is a catch. It may be a real R34 and whatnot, but getting it stateside is the problem. Once they open up the crate at customs and don't see the proper documents, its either going to be destroyed or returned by the request of the shipper. Tell your friend to join this forum, they are good guys and helped an associate get a R33. www.skylinesdownunder.com
Assuming he does get it stateside, i'd be careful driving it around. Get pulled over and its over. They usually impond and then destroy (I've actually seen that happened before).
There's a guy in Arizona (I think its Arizona) named Sean Morris who is the only one to my knowledge who has the connections to get a Skyline stateside and legal to drive on the road. But its gonna cost an arm and a leg.
If you want a Skyline, there's a place in Biloxi, Mississippi (I know, not the biggest import scene) that gets them every now and then and are 50 state legal and give you one year warranty for parts. I've actually been there (my parents are from Gulfport and we are there every summer). The website is www.f4w.us. I've actually ridden in the black R34 that sold for $85,000.
Assuming he does get it stateside, i'd be careful driving it around. Get pulled over and its over. They usually impond and then destroy (I've actually seen that happened before).
There's a guy in Arizona (I think its Arizona) named Sean Morris who is the only one to my knowledge who has the connections to get a Skyline stateside and legal to drive on the road. But its gonna cost an arm and a leg.
If you want a Skyline, there's a place in Biloxi, Mississippi (I know, not the biggest import scene) that gets them every now and then and are 50 state legal and give you one year warranty for parts. I've actually been there (my parents are from Gulfport and we are there every summer). The website is www.f4w.us. I've actually ridden in the black R34 that sold for $85,000.
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From: Richmond, VA
Originally Posted by bsteimel
If the car was registered as only used for track/racing purposes could you then get it imported and have no problems?
The R34 is not on that list, thats why it costs so much. Only Skylines on that list are R32's and I think a R33 GT-S (don't quote me on it though, i haven't seen the list in a while).
But yes, you can have it imported here without any modifications needed for track or show purposes but you have a legit business to have the car registered for and I think you have to have a list of what events the car would be at and participate in.
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Originally Posted by jmerc
Why did you have to post that site, now I have to decide between the 8 and a GTR
Oh, and when I say modifications for importing, I mean conversion to EPA and DOT standards (seatbelts, windshields, bumpers, that sort of thing)
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I am. thanks guys. I'm getting my buddy to give me the email he got from this guy, so i can look it over. If it's a scammer, i wanna catch this dude, and maybe scam them back.
-Steakboy
-Steakboy
There are TONS of scams like this going on the internet right now.
Ths catch is, they ALWAYS ask you to
*First, send the money to some company that appears to be VERY REAL*
*Second they said the seller will send the car(or whatever product you paid for) to the buyer*
*If the buyer is happy, then the company will transfer the money to the seller(minus the service charge)*
ITs a freaking trap, do NOT pay them a dime.
Remember, even a piece of **** Civic might cost more than 4K these days. do You SERIOUSLY think the seller will be stupid enough to sell a GT-R to your friend for 4 K ? I think the Chassic and title alone worth more than 4 K.
Ths catch is, they ALWAYS ask you to
*First, send the money to some company that appears to be VERY REAL*
*Second they said the seller will send the car(or whatever product you paid for) to the buyer*
*If the buyer is happy, then the company will transfer the money to the seller(minus the service charge)*
ITs a freaking trap, do NOT pay them a dime.
Remember, even a piece of **** Civic might cost more than 4K these days. do You SERIOUSLY think the seller will be stupid enough to sell a GT-R to your friend for 4 K ? I think the Chassic and title alone worth more than 4 K.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
*First, send the money to some company that appears to be VERY REAL*
*Second they said the seller will send the car(or whatever product you paid for) to the buyer*
*If the buyer is happy, then the company will transfer the money to the seller(minus the service charge)*
*Second they said the seller will send the car(or whatever product you paid for) to the buyer*
*If the buyer is happy, then the company will transfer the money to the seller(minus the service charge)*
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Let us know if it works out.
Scam. But sounds like your going to waste your money anyway, so heres my advice; Bargin down to $3200, which you wont have an issue doing because the scammer will take anything for nothing, then you have 800 bucks left over to fly to his local and kick his *** and threaten for the your money back.
Hey and if you can't find him, enjoy the vacation.
Hey and if you can't find him, enjoy the vacation.
good to hear you friend is going to keep is hard earned cash!
Originally Posted by Steakboy42
Ladies and Gentileman, it was a scam. the deal will not be happening, and he will not be losing his money. Thank you all for all your insight. You guys rock!
-Steakboy
-Steakboy
You know - for future reference... a ticket to england from the north east isnt really that much. I would just suggest doing the transaction in person.
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Originally Posted by Steakboy42
Ladies and Gentileman, it was a scam. the deal will not be happening, and he will not be losing his money. Thank you all for all your insight. You guys rock!
-Steakboy
-Steakboy
Of course it was a scam. Its funny to see how stupid people get when they get greedy. Your 'buddy' was never going to get an R34 for 4000$. the fact that you had to ask anyone else for their opinion is alarming.
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Nah, it's a scam. Back when I was shopping for an FD, i found a silver one. In Houston, had a ricer-kit, cf hood, 19" wheels, and all sorts of "mods", which he didn't list. Looked okay, but for 4k (yes, it too was for sale for 4k) I had to talk to him, maybe hit him in the face for that low of a price. He said, "i've moved to the United Kingdom. It won't pass for emissions, so I've decided to sell it. I'm willing to pay for the overseas shipping." After that, nothing was said. The car was taken off the site (Autotrader). And my brother was searching for a Viper for my Pops, and came across yet another scam, but it wasn't for 4k, the price was noticably low though.
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Glad your friend didn't fall for it.
And if anyone else is looking for Skyline in the U.S. You cannot import one yourself and legally drive it on the road. Unless you plan to import 5 exact same car and don't mind crash 4 of them.
The only company that can legally import Skyline is RBMotoring because MotoRex (first company legally imports Skyline) went down.
Whenever seller claims the car is legal in the States, get the VIN and check with DOT. If it's legal they will have the information.
If you're still looking for legal Skyline, you better be loaded with $$. Used R33 GTR in good condition can go up to 60k+. And R34 GTR can reach over 100k. Also, none of these are legal in CA.
RBMotoring usually have few Skyline for sale.
And if anyone else is looking for Skyline in the U.S. You cannot import one yourself and legally drive it on the road. Unless you plan to import 5 exact same car and don't mind crash 4 of them.
The only company that can legally import Skyline is RBMotoring because MotoRex (first company legally imports Skyline) went down.
Whenever seller claims the car is legal in the States, get the VIN and check with DOT. If it's legal they will have the information.
If you're still looking for legal Skyline, you better be loaded with $$. Used R33 GTR in good condition can go up to 60k+. And R34 GTR can reach over 100k. Also, none of these are legal in CA.
RBMotoring usually have few Skyline for sale.