nycgps

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_recall

Well, not suprirsed to see this. but hmm, couple days ago I overheard some dude in Hong Kong (obviously came from the States), he was talking to his buddy about

"man, **** jap cars and their sushi, GM is the **** y0"

my my my ...

they were talking about some Camaro and other stuff. Muscle car fans maybe ?

rotarygod

All car makers have recalls. That's the nature of the game. There are lots of parts and lots of suppliers. It happens. The media has blown the Toyota recall thing out of proportion.

dabax2324

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well duh they blew it outta proportion the media is controlled by the government man, and the government owns a big part of gm and Chrysler so they want to make their competitors look worse so they make more money

Vlaze

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^

That statement is so stupid I have no idea how to respond to it.

Toly

I don't think it's stupid at all.

Renesis_8

It is way out of proportion. I feel sorry for Mr. Toyoda.
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ash878

i partially agree with him.i work at a dealership and its been made a bigger deal than i really is.like someone else said every dealer has recalls and if you sell millions of more cars then other people then you have bigger recalls.the gas pedal thing is a problem with all different models the evos had some cases of it also along with sabb ford and others.honda has a huge recall going on now also.

dabax2324

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my girlfriend has a saturn vue, the recall for that right now is that the door doesn't hinge right and the door will open well going around turns if the doors aren't locked, how is that not on the news.

thats a pretty big deal

dynamho

I think it's blown way out of proportion. It wasn't this big with the Ford Explorer.

Some possible factors:
* Political grandstanding
* Business maneuvering as implied by dabax2424
* NHTSA shakedown
* Manufacturer admonition/shakedown

My humble 2 cents: Bad luck for Toyota to be the sacrificial lamb here, but I think a corporate shakedown once in a while is a good thing. I think corporations occasionally should be reminded who they are supposed to be serving. Toyota was culturally untouchable in Japan. It can't enjoy the same kind of immunity in litigation happy USofA. A super-sized portion of humble pie is being served.

dynamho

VAG (VW Audi Group) is probably having a party...

Mazmart

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I generally agree but the Explorer/Firestone thing was HUGE as well and it was all over the news. I actually know of a family that lost a son due to that situation.

I don't think it was essential to bring Mr Toyoda here and attempt to humiliate him, however, maybe that was the needed measure to truly bring about a change of approach from them. The politics involved (Congress) is just laughable sometimes (Although a very serious topic).

Paul.

nycgps

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That is pretty bad.

hell if my 8 has that kind of problem, no matter how much I love rotary, and how they recall and fix it. I will make sure I will not buy anything from Mazda again.

Well, how is that not on the news? because its from a USA company.

im not trying to help Toyota or Im anti-US or whatever. but this is what Im seeing so far (overreact About Toyota, while GM's problem looks like its nothing)

the part that causes the gas pedal problem actually came from a US supplier. I dont see they mention that on the news. (or I might be blind/deaf and I missed it)

and Its just funny to watch those congressmen/women making a big fuss about it. To me its like watching a Real Life show, bunch of "I want to act like I cared" people trying to get more votes on the next election ...

heyarnold69

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I don't feel bad for Toyota at all. maybe they should stop cutting corners. The corporate ethic is always focused on profit ... not satisfaction

nycgps

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This is the reason why Toyoda Family decided to run the business on their own again. (outsiders just doesn't give a **** about your family business) and of course they kicked the older CEO out (who just focus on profit mostly)

I feel bad for Toyota. now their cars are not selling (Dropped 9% sales) so I might be able to pick something decent up for cheap ... weehee !

dynamho

Interesting read about the dark side of Toyota (or Japan?):

Recall of 8 Million Toyotas, but None in Japan
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/06/bu...oyota.html?hpw

nycgps

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Thats because in Japan, Toyota uses japanese made parts. Everywhere else, "have to use USA parts."

See the problem?

dynamho

Did you read the article?

Razz1

Well that's the problem.

The cover up for years, the termination of their lawer for wanting to reveal safety data.
And the fact that it is more profitable to ignore instead of addressing the problem.

My brother died from a cell phone user hitting him on his motor cycle so any saftey thing should be addressed correctly.

rotarygod

You should direct those feelings towards American companies and the American consumer. There isn't much that is truly American made anymore. What is made here costs more and the American consumer doesn't want to pay for it. The result is that in order to stay afloat American companies have to outsource overseas. With the exception of small mom and pop companies, nearly all companies, regardless of where they are located, will outsource to a cheaper place. China is outsourcing to Vietnam and even India is sending tech support there. It is all based on the consumer. I see the American people complain about foreign made products but I never see these same people going out of their way to pay for American made products. You shouldn't feel bad for Toyota for being successful. They got there on their own through smart decisions and not because their consumers were stupid. Speaking of GM and their consumers, GM should have gone under and I personally wish they had. That was pure and simple bad business strategy on their part and it would have served as a great example to those who think they knew how to do things. Toyota has generally been smart about things. I feel bad that the press is going out of their way to paint them in such a negative light when all car makers have issues like this at some point.

nycgps

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I read it

The problem here is that, did she really step on the accelerator ? you know when someone is in the panic mode, you might not know what you're doing, even though you think you do.

as for the "Police asked her to sign it and forget it", who knows whats behind it, she might actually demand something but she never got it ? thats why she talk crap about Toyota ?

you do know that all companies do some sort of cover up right ? Good example is Apple, Apple will try to cover anything bad about its products either with money or Lawsuit. GM did the same thing before. Im not saying its right. and we usually just hear one side of the story, what about the other ?