cas2themoe

Not from what I've seen. I've seen the same or very close to the same numbers on the G meter! Everyone bypasses the point of what I've made. This is one of the few cars on the market that doesn't have a Turbo, MacPherson Struts or Bembo Brakes to get fairly good numbers in a performance category. Why are so many people blinded by this?

TheColonel

(P.S.- I'm going to hell...)

cas2themoe

I'll agree with you on that. Just tired of people not giving the RX8 props for what it can actually do with out the added help of a Turbo, Brembo Brakes, an Big Engine and so on.

th1rd3y3

Props are given to the 8 for what it can do with what it has, but why does that mean that a car with better brakes/engine/turbo is inferior? Are you telling me that if Mazda offered a turbo/brembo/higher displacement option for the 8 you would just stick with the run of the mill 8 because it does ok as it is (assuming price isn't an issue)?

Sometimes you need to look through your bias and at the actual facts. Yes the RX-8 is quick and handles well, but there is NO way it will compete with an Evo/STi without SERIOUS modification. Not saying the 8 is terrible but there are better cars out there when you consider more than just looks

-=Rowdy=-

No, it's just that you and others post here on topics such as these and somehow think we 8 owners are going to give major props to those cars or something. Those are the people typical of small organs.

-=Rowdy=-

Steiner

Actually I'm a white ghuy, 6'3" and 230lbs. You must be some sort of racist though to even bring that up...or you truly do have a baby dick. You're pathetic fucko.

cas2themoe

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I've always given the STi and EVO props for the performance numbers they put up. I mean come on now, those two have to be the best bang for the buck! And believe me, I know an EVO or STi will hand the RX8 its *** on a Track. I am not going to tip my hat 100% because the fact remains that they need all that extra performance gear to get those numbers. I give more respect to cars that can put fairly close numbers up without all the extra performance enhancements!

As for talking about better cars out they when you consider more than looks. Yes you are correct, but why would I buy a car that I don't think is attractive? That's just stupidity. Do you wear clothes and shoes that don't look good to you? People BS all the time on here. And they lie to themselves and others! The first thing that draws you toward a women, car, clothing, shoes and so one is the looks. Said to say but its human nature!

cas2themoe

I'm racist and my wife is black. LOL Now that's funny! If I do recall correctly your the one that posted the damn pic. Don't fire shots in any form or fashion if you cant take any back!

Oh by the way, do us all a favor and stay on the Troll routes and may be better off for you!

th1rd3y3

Ok first off, I owned an RX-8 for over a year and a half and still managed to have respect for other cars. No one is asking for major props, but when I see someone spouting out complete garbage like so many ignorant people on here do, they need to be called on it.

Since when did liking one car mean you can't like any other car?

Steiner

Too much self disclosure Mr. Ebony & Ivory. Yes I'm a bad bad bad troll. The thing is you're the moron who hijacked this thread. It was just abso-*******-lutely too much for us to actually discuss some Jamaican WRC photos, wasn't it? Too many of those Evos and STi's everywhere that those damn Asians drive. You're a mess bro.

Note to all: Make sure any future WRC pics you post have a photochopped version of an RX-8 in them so Cas can tell us all "cool pics" like the rest of the normal people on these boards who like all fast cars...not just the one they own.

cas2themoe

You have it backwards. First of all I'm half Puerto Rican, half White. Second my wife is the Black one. I hijacked it? I think that was you. Your the one that posted the asinine picture. If you could comprehend what I was trying to say maybe we wouldn't have had to go through all of this. Just for the record my first statement was about how I actually think the EVO and STi are suppose to be on the dirt since in my eyes, their rally cars! You need to get off of your EVO frenzy. I'm not stuck on my car. I have plenty of love for the 350Z, S2000, G35 and many more. I just prefer cars that have a little artistic design to them, not a square box!

Steiner

Who's the troll?

We go from civil...
to an off color and unneccesary flame...
then back to civil and then a factual rebuttal to your flame...
then you totally hijack the thread...again...with moronic rantings about truly nothing...
I think you should just avoid the general car discussion forum altogether, because you just never know when somebody might say or post something nice about another make or model. That seems to be the catalyst for your maniacal nonsensical rants.

cas2themoe

I think you should stay on the EVO and STi forums. There have been plenty of cars in the General Automotive section that I have posted positive things about. One being my wife's Acura TL. You just need to face the fact that if your car is ugly, its ugly. There's nothing you can do about it. Sure its fast as hell but that doesn't get much respect from me due to the fact that its needs a lot of help to be that fast! And Judging from the comments you have made, your always staying in the box. You seem to like that shape a little too much. I guess the truth hurts. Your situation on here is a "lose-lose".

Back on the subject of this thread. Thanks for sharing the pics of those rally cars!

BlueEyes

I don't understand the idea that because a car has turbos, brembos, or Macpherson struts they are somehow cheating.

cas2themoe

Never said that their cheating. I just don't get how people say well the RX8 is slower and cant perform as good. I mean what the hell do they expect if the other cars have AWD, a Turbo, Brembo Brakes, MacPherson Struts and all the extra performance accessories. That's the point I keep trying to make and everyone is blinded by their own views. I know the EVO and STi are fast. But I tip my hat more to cars that don't need all that to post fairly close times to them. Cars such as the S2000 and RX8. I guess its more of a respect thing for me. I'd rather have an car that can perform fairly close to it without the needed help.

Aoshi Shinomori

BlueEyes, get out while you still can! It's something you don't need to understand because it's irrelevant ans silly. If it is that way from the factory(for simliar or even less amounts of money) then everything is equal. The cars are stock, no extra goodies from the aftermarket. If Mazda wanted to add a turbo, brembos or anything of the like, they very well could have. It would have been priced out of its market but it could have been done. These arguments are so juvenile. Stock vs. stock Cas, no extra goodies. (Where is Ike on this argument, I think he could probably end it with something pretty hysterical :p, Ike get over here!)

Btw, those pics are really awesome. I wish they had cool rally stuff like this around here. It's lame enough for me to get to a track as it is.

Aoshi Shinomori

This is where you need to take off your blinders man. The 8 is a great damned car, but it has plenty of extra "help" as well. Just because Mitsubishi has brand named parts on the car stock doesn't matter. You just don't get it. So the Supra, RX7, VR-4 of the 90's got no tip of the hat from you? Btw, having all wheel drive is a bigger drivetrain loss than rear wheel drive, so they're at a disadvantage because of that.

cas2themoe

You guys will never get the point. Open your minds. DAMN

Aoshi Shinomori

I wanted to stop posting here, but I can't leave this alone. I hope a mod closes this thread or something. You are the on who needs to open his mind. The cars don't have extra help, they are stock, I hate to seem condescending, but do you know what that means? Original equipment from the manufacturer. They put these cars together and then sell them at the dealerships. What about "Mazdaspeed" RX8s that dealers sell with all the extras that still don't quite perform like Evos and Stis? You are a fanboi(no disrespect meant) and I think you'll never get over that.

cas2themoe

No, you my friend need to open your mind. Do you think I'm stupid or something and don't know that they come factory that way. Though most would call it stock, I would not. Maybe its just a matter of opinion but that the way I fell about it. Stock to me means that Subaru or Mitsubishi makes the brakes, struts and basically every performance part on the car. Not aftermarket performance companies such as Brembo and MacPherson. Kinda get what I'm saying now?

BlueEyes

You think mazda makes and engineered everything on the 8?

cas2themoe

I know they dont. But do you see performance brands such as Brembo and MacPherson on them?

Aoshi Shinomori

I have understood what you were saying the whole time, and it's nothing but rubbish(I love that word). No I don't think you were stupid, but I wasn't sure for a second if you really understood what a stock car was. I even stated it was not meant to be anything offensive. Do you really think that every car company makes every single part for all of their cars? I guarantee you every car company subcontracts in order to save money on R and D for certain parts, or in the case with the Evo and STi, just to attract attention because people know those names. I'm sure with time both companies could develop similar performing parts because they have a lot of money. The brakes on my car I find to be better than the ones on my brother's Evo. Of course my opinion, like yours, is not the be all, end all but to me it says that having those brembos wouldn't be much different than having Mitsubishi brakes.

Aoshi Shinomori

Damn you! You beat me to it :p My post was too long.