tiltmode43

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An NC ms mx5 would be an adequate and interesting comparo, too bad no such thing exists :'(

snizzle

Doesn't exist, unless you want to go back a generation and that wouldn't make sense either.

No More Oldsmobiles

Tell Mazda


2005 MAZDASPEED MX-5 Miata

snizzle

Sigh.

That's the "NB" generation Mazdaspeed Miata. "NC" is the current 3rd generation Miata (bar of soap look) and has no Mazdaspeed version as of yet. The NB almost shares no components with the NC so...

1). A comparo between a 2004/2005 model car vs a brand new Saturn Redline would not make more sense.
2). There can be no comparo vs a new model Mazdaspeed Miata because a production model doesn't exist.

Now i'd agree with you if you had said they should be comparing the base MY07 Miata vs the base MY07 Sky.

No More Oldsmobiles

Yeah, really ... sigh.
1.) The car exists -- duh.
2.) I never said a word about NB/NC. You misread my post.
3.) A comparo would be interesting, and not everyone buys their cars new.
4.) Top Gear isn't always strict about matching up cars by the exact same level/category/year/price/etc. anyway. Your talking about a show that once put a car up against an Olympic luge, ferchisake.

VikingDJ

Now if Mazda would slap the 2.3 turbo in the Miata, we'd have something worth discussing. That car would be sickly fast, and even leave my S2000 in the dust. However, they still need to lose the new look. I cannot stand it.

snizzle

1). Yes, an NB Mazdaspeed Miata exists.
2). I'm sorry, you're correct but I wasn't the only one. I made a reasonable assumption.
3). IMO it would not be, b/c the NC Miata roughly equals the performance of the NB Mazdaspeed Miata.
4). Yup, which didn't make sense either.

snizzle

Amen, i'd love to see them shoehorn the 2.3T in that enginebay. Then we'd have a real comparo even if it is an ugly car. Maybe visual upgrades for it too?

No More Oldsmobiles

What does a Mazdaspeed vehicle have that the Redline also has?
Think hard.

No, not tires. Try again.

snizzle

Depends on the Redline. Some have S/C, some have T/C, and some have Honda V6s. Or did I misread and was I suppose to assume we were talking about the Sky Redline?

In all seriousness, the Mazdaspeed Miata only has the new Miata beat by 8 HP and almost identical performance no matter how Mazda achieved it. Like I said, I think a better comparison even if only because the Sky and NC Miata currently directly compete in the marketplace in their current MY. Mazda doesn't have an answer for the Sky Redline yet.

I tend to shy away from idolizing Top Gear's methods. Most other comparos between the base Sky and base Miata are very close. I agree that they shouldn't be testing the Sky Redline vs the base Miata.

A lot of this is just opinion. Let's just agree to disagree and be done with it.