It's always the ones that have no real arguments that go for the personal attacks. Thank for proving yourself a douche. At least the rest of us make an effort to speak English.

Now back on topic... I WANT! (Not that I can afford it as yet... Maybe with the bonus a couple years from now.. assuming the market doesn't take a dive :lol2: )

Another thing I just realized... Now that the Skyline will be sold on the US market, its exclusivity factor will go down quite a bit... Still not as common as a Vette or a Porsche (at least for a couple years...). But seeing one on the road two years from now is definitely not going to be as sexy anymore.... DOH :spank:

Has the previous poster retained counsel already? Or are you just some nitpicking prick english teacher?

As for arguing, nope. I'll speak for myself and simply say I doubt the 7 minute 30 something second claims given what the competition has to pare weight down to in order to achieve like-kind times. I'll admit I'm more and more intrigued by the GT-R though, and am curious as to what the car's actual track time will be. Also curious about how Nissan expects a fair amount of people to walk into showrooms with $80,000+ checks in hand; and along with that doubt comes the realistic glimmer of hope that there may be serious discounts sometime after its 1st year of production, pending a test drive that proves this car doesn't share ride and handling characteristics with the Z/G, of course.

I dont like the looks of the car, it is too heavy if the JDM weight 3,800 lbs the us spec car will come close to the 4,000lbs mark, love the HP and the exhaust tail pipes

I dont believe the performance they are claiming, I will wait till some independent tests

This is still a pre-production car, remember the rx-8 runing the same time as an NXS around laguna seca?

thanks, all he does is make personal attacks, don't even bother to step down to hes level.

Due to its cost it probably wont be too common. I think it looks good, but not that great. but the previous iterations of GT-Rs never really looked that good either, they are more in the evo and wrx school of philosophy.

manufacturer estimate are usually conservative, historically especially for the GT-R. I dont think its hard to believe considering when the 911 turbo with SMG weighing in at 3572lb according to yahoo autos making 480hp does 0-60 in 3.4s and quarter mile in 11.6s, at 200lb more the GT-R being .1 second behind the 911 turbo seems plausible.

as for the nurburgring time, the z06 has 505hp weighing in at 3132lb according to yahoo, thats 25 more hp and more than 400lb lighter than the 911 turbo, yet the 911 turbo is 3 seconds faster 7:40s vs 7:43s. apparently theres more to track time than just simple hp and weight.

but well see when more tests come out

3800 hp, 470 hp, 3.5 0-60, 7:35 ring lap. Something in this equation sounds fishy.

I want to see The Stig take a lap in stock trim on Top Gear.

nissan has always embellished of the lap times of the GTR cars saying they were quicker then they were, however, they've been conservative about the power of the vehicle and its potential, we'll see with this new one. Regarding the 911 turbo, porshe uses slicks for the ring, Chevy used a stock zo6, with the stupid run flats it comes with...my bet is that number would be better with slicks

also, please stop calling it a skyline or an R35, the GTR is now a seperate entity from the Nissan Skyline (aka Infiniti G35/G37) which has been here since 03

The G35 is a piece of that brown stuff that floats about in the toilet bowl.

It was never, and will never be, a Skyline.

GTR is awesome. In about 10 year's time....

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...904_1_full.jpg


while a 911 Turbo....

http://www.abmotor.pt/imgveiculos/30...Preto%2002.jpg

As you see, the Skyline or whatever you want to call it just doesn't age well.

So you see, in 10 year's time even your mother's Camry sport will sport 400hp. :)

You clearly have no freaking clue what you're talking about and don't know anything about the history of the Skyline outside of what you learned from Gran Turismo.

agreed, it has Always ALways been a skyline.
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Yes the V35 and V36 (VQxxDD, VQxxDE, VQxxHR) were sold under the Skyline name. However in my mind they never lived up to the legacy... There was no GT-R model. And most of the Japanese shops pretty much ignored these cars...

Earlier this year I was in Tokyo I saw a police car with "Skyline" written across the back instead of "G35". Was I in shock and awe? No, cos the car is really nothing special... Looks more like some luxury sedan than a true sports car... The same week I was in Hong Kong and saw two different R34's fly by me on two separate occasions. Now those were exciting encounters, you could hear the car coming from a mile away.

The Skyline was never meant to be a tame car. Seeing a G35 bounce around on the highway the only logical conclusion I can come to is that its suspension is made of cheese. The car is a turd.

And what is it with you people? Your only refrain seems to be that anyone who talks shit about any car is a kid living in his parents' basement and whose knowledge of cars is limited to Gran Turismo... Rather than insult me, either give me facts or get a life. Not to mention that GT4 had a pretty good amount of Skyline models including some of the classic ones.

delhi: Nice choice on the R32... Rumor has it they were built to make something like 400-500hp and then tuned way down... Although in about 10 more years that car will be over 20 years old :lol:

The Skyline has always had very tame versions, in fact the V35 Skyline is s step up from most previous versions of the Skyline. For instance you could get a whopping 140hp R34GT Sedan or if you wanted to go all out there was the 25GT-V with 193hp. No, there was not a V35 GT-R, but the car as a whole was a step up from most of the previous non GT-R Skylines.

Read and learn...

http://history.jbskyline.net/

t-25 hours and counting
http://www.gtrnissan.com/?Site=nissanusa&Area=GT-R_Home

I note that the V3x cars are conspicuously absent from the "official" timeline...

Think they will let me test drive one if I pull up in the 8? :lol2:

Brilliant, now if you were only smart enough to figure out that they are only showing GT-R versions. Kooky, considering the new car is a GT-R...

this thread is full of champions....sti smokes z06, rx8 smokes z06, yet-to-be-sold car smokes z06. quite the collection of professional magazine racers. respek.

IIRC the G35 are known as Skyline GT350 or some sorts in Nippon no? It is the company that determines the model name. So in this case like the STi, it is an Impreza. Therefore those G35/GT350 are Skylines.... not GT-R. Doesn't bother me until I see hokey JDM fanbois pasting Skyline badges on their Infinitis.... quite lame.

wolverine, whats the oficial weight for the JDM GT-R?

If that is the price I'm seeing ($7,770,000) that's about 69K in US. Not to bad but still out of my budget.

About 3800lbs?
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6978/p1ip0.jpg

BTW check out the date at the top.

a little more...

1740 kilograms = 3836.04336 pounds


http://www.spacetoday.org/Photograph...igOutOften.jpg

regardless of what anyone says, this car is pure ownage, and in about 10 years, it will still be pwnage and would probably be modded to 2k +whp