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brilliantblackrx8 10-23-2007 01:51 PM

All in All a Great thing for us!
 
I feel that the GT-R coming stateside is a great thing. If the published reports are correct IT WILL GIVE THE Z06 a run for it's money. People, you know you would all take one in a second. If you think about it, it's alike like are 8's, in that it's a pure sports car with a back seat! Bravo Nissan! Now if Mazda could muster up a Twin Turbo all-wheel drive RX8! HMMM sounds good to me!

mac11 10-23-2007 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by brilliantblackrx8 (Post 2109702)
it's a pure sports car with a back seat! Bravo Nissan!

no, its not.

Red Devil 10-23-2007 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by brilliantblackrx8 (Post 2109702)
Now if Mazda could muster up a Twin Turbo all-wheel drive RX8! HMMM sounds good to me!

:puke:

If I wanted AWD, I would have got an EVO or STi.

rotary crazy 10-23-2007 02:46 PM

looks like corvette is not wasting any time

https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/video-corvette-zr-1-laguna-seca-129534/

Red Devil 10-23-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy (Post 2109825)
looks like corvette is not wasting any time

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=129534

It can't be fast. Haven't you heard, it is a piece of American crap!!!!!!!

mac11 10-23-2007 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 2109872)
It can't be fast. Haven't you heard, it is a piece of American crap!!!!!!!

WHAT??? BUT ITS GOT HOOD SCOOPS!

fdtt19 10-23-2007 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by tajabaho1 (Post 2109663)
regardless of what anyone says, this car is pure ownage, and in about 10 years, it will still be pwnage and would probably be modded to 2k +whp

I'm personally interested to see what the aftermarket does for this car. Everybody thinks this car is going to be very tuner friendly but the VQ series up until now really hasnt been that great, granted this a different kind of beast but perhaps this car is closer to being maxed out then people think....just something to think about.

Ike 10-23-2007 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by fdtt19 (Post 2110096)
I'm personally interested to see what the aftermarket does for this car. Everybody thinks this car is going to be very tuner friendly but the VQ series up until now really hasnt been that great, granted this a different kind of beast but perhaps this car is closer to being maxed out then people think....just something to think about.

If someone can get 1200whp out of a 4g63 I don't think they're going to have any troubles extracting at least a few hundred more horsepower out of the new Nissan engine.

fdtt19 10-23-2007 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Ike (Post 2110170)
If someone can get 1200whp out of a 4g63 I don't think they're going to have any troubles extracting at least a few hundred more horsepower out of the new Nissan engine.

I agree with you for the most part but its not like the VQ's have made alot of power before, the most I normally see is around 600 but I believe a few have hit 700. If they can only extract a a couple more hundred from the GTR thats really not that impressive, twin turbos on a z06, or a huge single on a supra and you're well over 1100 horspower and thats going to roast a GTR, even one thats been modified.

Ike 10-23-2007 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by fdtt19 (Post 2110287)
I agree with you for the most part but its not like the VQ's have made alot of power before, the most I normally see is around 600 but I believe a few have hit 700. If they can only extract a a couple more hundred from the GTR thats really not that impressive, twin turbos on a z06, or a huge single on a supra and you're well over 1100 horspower and thats going to roast a GTR, even one thats been modified.

This is a FFI car which means you can't really compare it to previous VQ engines. It would be like me saying an Evo doesn't have potential because the base Lancer doesn't have much potential.

mac11 10-23-2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ike (Post 2110170)
If someone can get 1200whp out of a 4g63 I don't think they're going to have any troubles extracting at least a few hundred more horsepower out of the new Nissan engine.

you're not talking about a stock block 4g63 at that point nor one with a very useable power band outside of a dyno.

You can make a piss load of horsepower on ANY block that you can take down to just the bare block and put in forged low compression rotating assemblies. At that points its only as much a 4g63 or vq37dett as you will get the OE engine computer to control it.

playdoh43 10-23-2007 07:33 PM

1) its not a VQ, the VR38 shares very little parts with the VQ series
2) theres a huge difference between factory turbo engines vs na engines, turbo engines are designed to be sturdy to handle high boost while na engines are designed to be light to rev high and thus not sturdy and cant handle high boost. its extremely expensive and cost prohibitive to rebuild an engine. Im not sure but i highly doubt a twin turbo z06 can make 1000whp without having to rebuild the internals.
3) just about all factory turbo engines are made to be sturdy and have great aftermarket potential.

playdoh43 10-23-2007 07:44 PM

spend enough money and you can make almost any engine make 1000+whp, 4 cylinder race cars used to make over 1000hp via forced induction. after market potential refers to being able to pick up huge gains with relatively small amount of money invested. something just about all factory FI cars share.

mac11 10-23-2007 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by playdoh43 (Post 2110312)
1) its not a VQ, the VR38 shares very little parts with the VQ series
2) theres a huge difference between factory turbo engines vs na engines, turbo engines are designed to be sturdy to handle high boost while na engines are designed to be light to rev high and thus not sturdy and cant handle high boost. its extremely expensive and cost prohibitive to rebuild an engine. Im not sure but i highly doubt a twin turbo z06 can make 1000whp without having to rebuild the internals.
3) just about all factory turbo engines are made to be sturdy and have great aftermarket potential.

so you are telling me GM is casting different blocks for the FI ecotec motors found in pontiac solstice GXP than the NA ecotec motors found in the base solstice?

mac11 10-23-2007 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by playdoh43 (Post 2110312)
1) its not a VQ, the VR38 shares very little parts with the VQ series
2) theres a huge difference between factory turbo engines vs na engines, turbo engines are designed to be sturdy to handle high boost while na engines are designed to be light to rev high and thus not sturdy and cant handle high boost. its extremely expensive and cost prohibitive to rebuild an engine. Im not sure but i highly doubt a twin turbo z06 can make 1000whp without having to rebuild the internals.
3) just about all factory turbo engines are made to be sturdy and have great aftermarket potential.

so you are telling me GM is casting different blocks for the FI ecotec motors found in pontiac solstice GXP than the NA ecotec motors found in the base solstice?

you are going to have a very hard time finding any motor that will handle 1000hp on all factory internals, including the motor that comes in the GT-R. There is no magic to the motor building process because it comes with a turbo from the factory.

fdtt19 10-23-2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by playdoh43 (Post 2110312)
1) its not a VQ, the VR38 shares very little parts with the VQ series

Didn't know this, thanks for the clarification. Everything I had read, heard and looked into I thought showed a VQ38, essentially a boared out 36 with the other essential upgrades for boost.
My point was when you fully build the other VQs they still don't really perform overly well so my concern was this GTR was potentially close to it's max but if it's a completely different engine essentially this may not be an issue...no 6 speed still kills it though.

playdoh43 10-23-2007 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by mac11 (Post 2110340)
so you are telling me GM is casting different blocks for the FI ecotec motors found in pontiac solstice GXP than the NA ecotec motors found in the base solstice?

you are going to have a very hard time finding any motor that will handle 1000hp on all factory internals, including the motor that comes in the GT-R. There is no magic to the motor building process because it comes with a turbo from the factory.

we will see, i doubt it can hit 1000+whp on stock internals too since it dosnt have an iron block, but the point is, being factory turbo usually indicate that modding potential will be high. Theres bound to be a few hundred more whp to be picked up on the cheap on factory internals.
i dont know much about the ecotec motor, but i doubt its using the same stock internals as the regular version, but if the boost is real low it might. its hard to say, but for GT-R's case the internals is especially designed to be an FI engine. its no magic, but the design philosophy is usually different and stresses differnt things.
the twin turbo supra engine definetly uses differnt parts compared to the NA engine in the regular supra and is300, same goes for the bmw 335.. its not just the regular 3,0l internals found in the 328 and 325 and 330

Ike 10-23-2007 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by mac11 (Post 2110303)
you're not talking about a stock block 4g63 at that point nor one with a very useable power band outside of a dyno.

You can make a piss load of horsepower on ANY block that you can take down to just the bare block and put in forged low compression rotating assemblies. At that points its only as much a 4g63 or vq37dett as you will get the OE engine computer to control it.

No, but I don't recall saying anything about a stock block. However, it's not like there haven't been plenty of sub 10 sec. 4g63's with stock blocks. And yes, it is usable, to the point of making a car run the 1/4 mile faster than 99%+ of Renesis' can run the 1/8th mile in.

There are good engines to start with if you want to make big power, and there are bad ones. The 4g63 would be a good one, and the VR38 will probably be a good one as well.

playdoh43 10-23-2007 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by fdtt19 (Post 2110422)
Didn't know this, thanks for the clarification. Everything I had read, heard and looked into I thought showed a VQ38, essentially a boared out 36 with the other essential upgrades for boost.
My point was when you fully build the other VQs they still don't really perform overly well so my concern was this GTR was potentially close to it's max but if it's a completely different engine essentially this may not be an issue...no 6 speed still kills it though.

fully rebuilding a VQ is tricky, its a complex engine with hundreds of moving parts, its not just a matter of having a strong block and rods and heads etc, having so many parts, any part can end up being a weak-link. its hard to expect the aftermarket to have the level of engineering expertise and familiarity with such a complex engine to be able to replace everything to handle high boost. the VR38 on the other hand is designed from the get-go to with high boost in mind.

playdoh43 10-23-2007 08:59 PM

eitherway, just a 3 hours before tokyo auto show starts

8 Maniac 10-23-2007 11:11 PM

the gt-r website has a countdown thing... they sent an email saying you can watch the unveiling live, but not sure if the countdown is just till the show or unveil... both maybe?

lesper4 10-23-2007 11:23 PM

Official GT-R TMS 2007 REVEAL THREAD!!! OPEN for BUSINESS!!!!!!!

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Engine
• VR-series twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6.
• 480 hp @ 6,800 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm.
• Dual overhead camshafts with variable intake-valve timing.
• Cast aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
• IHI twin turbochargers, one per cylinder bank.
• Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling.
Drivetrain
• ATTESA ET-S All-Wheel Drive (AWD) with independent rear-mounted transaxle integrating transmission, differential and AWD transfer case.
• Rigid, lightweight carbon-composite driveshaft between engine and transaxle.
• Electronic traction control plus 1.5-way mechanically locking rear differential.
• Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC-R) with three driver-selectable settings: Normal (for daily driving, controls brakes and engine output), R-Mode (for ultimate performance, utilizes AWD torque distribution for additional vehicle stability) and Off (driver does not want the help of the system).
• Hill Start Assist prevents rollback when starting on an incline.
DisclaimerVDC-R cannot prevent accidents due to abrupt steering, carelessness, or dangerous driving techniques. Always drive safely.

Transmission
• 6-speed Dual Clutch Transmission with three driver-selectable modes: Normal (for maximum smoothness and efficiency), Snow (for gentler starting and shifting on slippery surfaces), and R mode (for maximum performance with fastest shifts).
• Fully automatic shifting or full sequential manual control via gearshift or steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters.
• Dual clutch design changes gears in less than 0.5 second (0.2 second in R mode).
• Downshift Rev Matching (DRM).
• Predictive pre-shift control (in R mode) based on throttle position, vehicle speed, braking and other information.
Wheels and Tires
• 20 x 9.5" (front) and 20 x 10.5" (rear) super-lightweight forged-aluminum wheels with Gunmetal Gray finish.
• Exclusively developed nitrogen-filled Bridgestone® RE070A high-capacity run-flat summer tires, 255/40R20 front and 285/35R20 rear.
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS).
• Optional exclusively developed nitrogen-filled Dunlop® run-flat all-season tires, 255/40R20 front and 285/35R20 rear (includes Bright Silver wheels).
Brakes
• Brembo® 4-wheel disc brakes with 4-wheel Antilock Braking System (ABS), Brake Assist, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution and Preview Braking.
• Two-piece floating-rotor 15-inch front and rear discs with diamond-pattern internal ventilation.
• 6-piston front/4-piston rear monoblock calipers.
Steering
• Rack-and-pinion steering with vehicle-speed-sensitive power assist.
• 2.6 steering-wheel turns lock-to-lock.
Suspension
• 4-wheel independent suspension with Bilstein® DampTronic system with three driver-selectable modes: Normal/Sport (for automatic electronic control of damping), Comfort (for maximum ride comfort), and R mode (engages maximum damping rate for high-performance cornering).
• Electronically controlled variable-rate shock absorbers. High-accuracy progressive-rate coil springs.
• Front double-wishbone/rear multi-link configuration with aluminum members and rigid aluminum subframes.
• Hollow front and rear stabilizer bars.
Body/Chassis
• Exclusive Premium Midship platform with jig-welded hybrid unibody.
• Aluminum hood, trunk and door skins. Die-cast aluminum door structures.
• Carbon-reinforced front crossmember/radiator support.
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Standard Features

Exterior
• Wide-beam headlights with High Intensity Discharge (HID) low beams.
• LED taillights and brake lights.
• Dual heated power mirrors.
• Flush-mounted aluminum door handles.
• Body-color rear spoiler with integrated center high-mounted stop light.
• UV-reducing tinted glass.
Audio/Navigation/Performance Monitor
• Digital Bose® audio system with AM/FM/in-dash 6-CD changer and 11 speakers including dual subwoofers.
• HDD Music Box system, including hard drive with 9.4 GB for audio storage.
• MP3, WMA and DVD audio capable. In-dash Compact Flash card reader.
• HDD-based GPS navigation with touch screen.
• Driver-configurable performance monitor, developed with Sony® Polyphony, with graphical readouts of vehicle data and driving data displayed on a total of 11 screens.
• 7-inch WVGA high-resolution color-LCD display for audio, navigation and performance monitor.
Interior
• Automatic Temperature Control (ATC).
• Electronic analog instrument cluster with multi-function trip computer and digital gear indicator.
• Power front windows with one-touch auto-up/down feature.
• Intelligent Key system with pushbutton start. Power door locks.
• Cruise control.
• Tilt/telescoping steering column.
• Bluetooth® Hands-free phone system with voice recognition.
Seating/Appointments
• Leather upholstered front seats with perforated Alcantara inserts.
• 8-way power front seats with entry/exit switch for rear-seat passengers.
• Driver-shaped bucket seat.
• Dual individual rear seats.
• Heated front seats.
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob.
• Drilled aluminum pedals.
Safety/Security
• Nissan Advanced Air Bag System (AABS) with dual-stage supplemental front air bags, seat belt sensors and occupant-classification sensor.
• Driver and front-passenger side-impact supplemental air bags and roof-mounted curtain supplemental air bags.
• Front seat belts with pretensioners and load limiters.
• Nissan Vehicle Immobilizer System.
• Vehicle Security System.
DisclaimerPlease keep in mind that air bags are a supplemental system and must be used in conjunction with a seat belt. Never let children 12 and under ride in this vehicle unless the front passenger air bag on/off switch has been installed. Side air bags and side curtain air bags are designed to inflate in higher severity side collisions and inflate on the side of the vehicle impacted. Please see your owner's manual for more details. Inflated air bags shown for illustration purposes only. Actual air bags deflate after deployment.
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lesper4 10-23-2007 11:24 PM

TOKYO (Oct. 24, 2007) - Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., today announced the launch of the Nissan GT-R, a new multi-dimensional performance machine that lives up to the concept of “an ultimate supercar for anyone, anywhere, at anytime”. The Nissan GT-R features a newly developed Premium Midship package, including the world’s first independent transaxle 4WD developed independently by Nissan. The Nissan GT-R will be available in Japan mainly through Nissan High Performance Centers nationwide from December 6th.

The Nissan GT-R was developed with a new understanding and appreciation of the Earth’s natural forces – gravity, inertial force and aerodynamics – and translates those forces into a completely new design, maximizing tire grip and airflow.

Basic vehicle dynamics and integration with the driver have also been examined, resulting in new componentry and creating a Human-Machine Interface (HMI) never seen before in the marketplace. All of these theories have been integrated to balance “speed and efficiency,” “high-output with environmental consideration” and “high performance and safety.”

Taking these factors into account, Nissan created the all-new Nissan GT-R, which offers advanced high performance for secure and enjoyable driving by minimizing the effects of climatic, road condition or driving technique limitations. The Nissan GT-R offers ultimate performance for virtually every driving situation – whether it be the Nurburgring circuit, to snow, rain or urban areas – all manageable by the GT-R driver through advanced technology and driving dynamics.

The Nissan GT-R’s unique characteristics are instilled not just in the vehicle’s design, but also through a specialized production process. Carbon fiber, aluminum and steel components are assembled with a special high-precision process, which includes a series of vibration tests. Engines and transmissions are assembled by a single craftsman in a “clean room” environment and upon completion, every GT-R undergoes a battery of comprehensive tests to ensure the proper operation of all vehicle components.

To properly support the all-new GT-R, Nissan has established special Nissan High Performance Centers, where all certified advisors and technicians have received extensive training. Total support for the GT-R owner is offered for the first three years of ownership, including measurement and adjustment of the engine, transmission and wheel alignment after the first 1000 km, and again every 12 months, free of charge.

Packaging and Driveline Suited for a Supercar
The all-new Nissan GT-R uses a Premium Midship package, an all-new, more advanced version Front Midship (FM) package utilized on other Nissan vehicles. This new package enables the use of the world’s first application of an independent transaxle 4WD system. The transaxle’s layout places the dual-clutch transmission, transfer case and final drive at the rear of the vehicle (instead of the usual front location), which enables vehicle weight to be evenly distributed throughout the car. This gives the Nissan GT-R a superb front-to-rear weight balance, while enhancing leg and foot space and allowing for an optimal pedal layout.

Under the hood, the Nissan GT-R features an all-new 3.8-litre twin turbo V6 “VR38” engine, featuring plasma-sprayed bores and a special twin-turbo exhaust manifold system. A secondary air management system enables the newly designed powerplant to provide approximately 40kg/m of torque during ordinary low-rev driving, which gives an optimum air-fuel ratio for around-town efficiency and helps the Nissan GT-R meet ultra-low emission vehicle (U-LEV) standards in Japan.

The Nissan GT-R’s new engine produces 480PS (353kW) at 6400rpm and maximum torque of 60kgm (588Nm) from 3200 to 5200rpm. Putting the power to the ground is an all-new GR6-type dual clutch transmission, with paddle shifting and a Borg Warner six-plate dual clutch for direct control.

Suspension duties are handled through a special Bilstein DampTronic*1 system, which utilizes all pertinent vehicle information to provide appropriate damping forces for all situations and helps maintain a high level of control for straight-line driving, cornering, and braking.

Braking is essential for a daily-driven supercar and the GT-R features large Brembo full-floating drilled rotors, low steel high stiffness brake pads and Brembo mono block six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers, which in combination minimize fade and provide stable braking. Run-flat tires, exclusively designed for use on the Nissan GT-R, balance high grip and all-weather capabilities and a comfortable ride in all driving situations. The tires are designed to maintain structure for 80km of travel at 80 km/h, while still providing an acceptable level of performance.

High-Performance Safety and Environmental Technologies
The Nissan GT-R offers a long list of safety and environmental features, including, for enhanced visibility inside and out of the vehicle, high-mounted LED stoplamps, bright LED rear combination taillights, “super wide beam” headlights, heated door mirrors and flat-blade wipers.

Standard safety equipment includes a pop-up engine hood system for enhanced pedestrian safety, driver and front passenger SRS Air Bag System, ELR front seat belts with tension reducer, front seat belts with load limiter, and three-point ELR rear seat belts. Driver and front passenger SRS Side Air Bag System and SRS Curtain Air Bag System are offered as options.

Environmental technologies include extensive work to create an U-LEV certification in Japan for the 3.8-liter twin turbo engine and reduced levels of volatile organic compound for materials used in the car.

Functional Design – High Performance Aerodynamics and Style
The Nissan GT-R’s styling follows the function over form theory. Every styling aspect, from the overall design to the smallest details, is created to maximize the vehicle’s driving experience – as well as suggesting GT-R’s “supercar” level of performance. Utilizing advanced aerodynamics, the Nissan GT-R’s aggressive styling evokes the lines of a well-trained athlete, combining strong character lines with smooth and solid areas.

The all-new GT-R’s body is created with a combination of steel, carbon fiber and aluminum, providing a unique combination of stiffness and lightness. The Nissan GT-R features a low coefficient of drag of 0.27, with high front and rear downforce, which provides the GT-R with enhanced grip in all weather situations, while also enhancing fuel efficiency.

The front fenders express power and stability, while the “aero-blades” on the fenders’ leading edges provide optimum airflow around the tires and along the body. The scoop in the fenders’ trailing edges assists in providing front downforce and optimization of side airflow. The aggressive front end, with a large hood budge and single air intake, provides a sophisticated style as well as undisturbed airflow for power and cooling. New “super wide beam” headlights feature three additional sub-reflectors (compared to conventional lights) to give a wider spread to the illumination area.

The Nissan GT-R’s large, four-passenger cabin features a sloping “aero blade canopy” roofline and curved C-pillar “sword edge,” which expresses the distinctive GT-R identity, as well as facilitating air flow around the rear of the vehicle. The GT-R’s hallmark four-ring taillights, efficient rear spoiler and large, integrated φ120 exhaust tips, provides the signature rear view of the GT-R, as well as optimizing airflow along the top and under the vehicle

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playdoh43 10-23-2007 11:31 PM

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