Official 2011 Formula 1 Season Discussion
#126
Ferrari Drivers: Cars Have Become Too Complicated
more @ http://sports.myway.com/news/01132011/v8678.html
MADONNA DI CAMPIGLIO, Italy (AP) - Ferrari drivers Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa are worried they'll have too many buttons to press on their steering wheels following the latest Formula One rule changes.
Speaking at Ferrari's annual winter retreat in the Italian Dolomites on Thursday, the drivers addressed the admission of adjustable rear wings, the return of the KERS power boost system, plus the switch to Pirelli tires, all combined with extensive testing limits.
"Without realizing it, we're losing the focus on driving," Alonso said, adding that "the cars become tougher to drive when you have to make all these changes from one turn to the next."
Speaking at Ferrari's annual winter retreat in the Italian Dolomites on Thursday, the drivers addressed the admission of adjustable rear wings, the return of the KERS power boost system, plus the switch to Pirelli tires, all combined with extensive testing limits.
"Without realizing it, we're losing the focus on driving," Alonso said, adding that "the cars become tougher to drive when you have to make all these changes from one turn to the next."
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They obviously have not spent enough time with the PS3 or the XBox 360. Otherwise they would be used to lots of buttons.
Also recommended is the Steelseries World of Warcraft gaming mouse with 13 buttons on the mouse alone. Once they are used t this a few switches on the steering wheel will be nothing.
Also recommended is the Steelseries World of Warcraft gaming mouse with 13 buttons on the mouse alone. Once they are used t this a few switches on the steering wheel will be nothing.
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Porsche more likely to tackle Le Mans than F1
Porsche has played down rumours it is preparing for a 2013 entry into Formula One, saying it is more likely to tackle Le Mans.
Late last year, CEO Matthias Mueller said there are some "drawbacks" to entering F1 that are not present in other prominent series. But then the FIA green-lighted new 1.6 litre turbo engine rules for 2013, causing Volkswagen representative Hans-Joachim Stuck to say the "conditions for a possible [F1] entrance of the ... group have been created".
Porsche is a member of the VW Group, but Mueller believes that the underlying risks and costs of an F1 entry mean that it is often talked about but unlikely to be followed through.
"There are undoubtedly some attractive aspects," he told the Swiss car newspaper Automobil Revue. "But there are other sides to it as well. Formula One is very expensive, while success is far less predictable [than in other series]."
At the Detroit motorshow earlier this month Porsche unveiled its new 918 RSR racing car, a showcase of its motor racing technology. Although the 918 RSR is not eligible for any current racing series, its name, blue and orange paint work and No. 22 on the bonnet all draw parallels with the 1971 Porsche 917K, one of which won at Le Mans 40 years ago.
Mueller admitted that a Le Mans project is far more likely than F1: "We would not necessarily have to line up against Audi, but we would do it if we need to and it would mean there are two of the [VW] group's brands fighting in the races. The likelihood that the group wins would therefore obviously be increased."
He urged all the VW brands to get together to "agree on a motorsport strategy for the coming years".
Porsche has played down rumours it is preparing for a 2013 entry into Formula One, saying it is more likely to tackle Le Mans.
Late last year, CEO Matthias Mueller said there are some "drawbacks" to entering F1 that are not present in other prominent series. But then the FIA green-lighted new 1.6 litre turbo engine rules for 2013, causing Volkswagen representative Hans-Joachim Stuck to say the "conditions for a possible [F1] entrance of the ... group have been created".
Porsche is a member of the VW Group, but Mueller believes that the underlying risks and costs of an F1 entry mean that it is often talked about but unlikely to be followed through.
"There are undoubtedly some attractive aspects," he told the Swiss car newspaper Automobil Revue. "But there are other sides to it as well. Formula One is very expensive, while success is far less predictable [than in other series]."
At the Detroit motorshow earlier this month Porsche unveiled its new 918 RSR racing car, a showcase of its motor racing technology. Although the 918 RSR is not eligible for any current racing series, its name, blue and orange paint work and No. 22 on the bonnet all draw parallels with the 1971 Porsche 917K, one of which won at Le Mans 40 years ago.
Mueller admitted that a Le Mans project is far more likely than F1: "We would not necessarily have to line up against Audi, but we would do it if we need to and it would mean there are two of the [VW] group's brands fighting in the races. The likelihood that the group wins would therefore obviously be increased."
He urged all the VW brands to get together to "agree on a motorsport strategy for the coming years".
The hilarious part i find is "Formula One is very expensive, while success is far less predictable [than in other series]"
What Porsche means to say is that skill and engineering is required and just throwing money at it will not help because the competition is brilliant.
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They have a point, but the thing is: The fact that they cannot dominate F1 means they are not as good as they pretend to be.
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Porsche only wins because of the little support the other manufacturers give to the other racing classes. Ferrari does close to nothing except building good cars for teams like Risi etc. In the end Porsche even gets their *** spanked by Mazda after several rule changes in GrandAm so... I don't think that Mazda is better than porsche but still, it's a matter of support from the manufacturer and they're great at that.
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I think that we all know that
Porsche only wins because of the little support the other manufacturers give to the other racing classes. Ferrari does close to nothing except building good cars for teams like Risi etc. In the end Porsche even gets their *** spanked by Mazda after several rule changes in GrandAm so... I don't think that Mazda is better than porsche but still, it's a matter of support from the manufacturer and they're great at that.
Porsche only wins because of the little support the other manufacturers give to the other racing classes. Ferrari does close to nothing except building good cars for teams like Risi etc. In the end Porsche even gets their *** spanked by Mazda after several rule changes in GrandAm so... I don't think that Mazda is better than porsche but still, it's a matter of support from the manufacturer and they're great at that.
Not all of them of course, but the ones bothering with the flame wars are not the sharpest knives in the kitchen so to speak.
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I know that. Porsche makes some very cool cars with 30 years old technology though. The gt3 rs is an amazing car but still, 30 years old technology with that boxer so far back...
They are fast and reliable track toys while Ferrari builds ultra fast track monsters. They fail to realize that the 40.000€ difference in price between a gt3 rs and a 458 italia is not just the prancing horse...
They are fast and reliable track toys while Ferrari builds ultra fast track monsters. They fail to realize that the 40.000€ difference in price between a gt3 rs and a 458 italia is not just the prancing horse...
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We've got a bit off-topic talking about road cars, but this is the off season.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
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We've got a bit off-topic talking about road cars, but this is the off season.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
I still personally feel that a tail engine is stupid, and the fact that the old GT2 got the nickname "Widowmaker" just clarifies my point.
Its also the reason I find that Porsche are making sport cars. Ferrari are making super cars. A category difference.
I'm easily agreeing that Porsche makes good cars. I just hate the fact that since they dominate some lower tier series everyone (who owns a Porsche) thinks they are the best there is.
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The difference, in Grand Am, is the Porsche is a assembly line car. It could be driven on the street. The Mazda is not. I don't think you find them in the LeMans series because they, like Mazda, can't make enough horsepower in a road car to be competitive. They do have an engine that could, but it is used in an SUV rather than in a sports car. This same engine was used to win at Daytona in the G.A. Prototype.
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We've got a bit off-topic talking about road cars, but this is the off season.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
What 30 yr old tech are you talking about? The engine behind the axle? The Boxer engine? If so, That dates back to the beginning of Porsche and even further back to when Mr. Porsche was with VW in the 30's. What basic tech in a Ferrari hasn't been around for years? Even rotary engine tech has been around for over 40 yrs. And then road tech and race tech have very little in common.
Kinda like the american crap small and big block engines, the same old stuff with some fancy add-on, nothing new under the sun.
#145
Melbourne officials flag F1 exit after 2015
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=398255:F1
Two influential officials have cast doubt on the future of Melbourne's Australian Grand Prix.
First, the city's Lord Mayor Robert Doyle said the annual event at Albert Park, contracted to host the race through 2015, is no longer value for money.
"My judgment would be: get ready. Time's up," he wrote in the Sunday Herald Sun newspaper.
And the state of Victoria's new premier Ted Baillieu admitted that the $50 million per year taxpayer's bill for the race will need to be reduced.
"The Grand Prix has been great for Melbourne and great for Victoria but we look forward to (it) performing financially better than it has and we will be looking to make sure that happens," he said.
First, the city's Lord Mayor Robert Doyle said the annual event at Albert Park, contracted to host the race through 2015, is no longer value for money.
"My judgment would be: get ready. Time's up," he wrote in the Sunday Herald Sun newspaper.
And the state of Victoria's new premier Ted Baillieu admitted that the $50 million per year taxpayer's bill for the race will need to be reduced.
"The Grand Prix has been great for Melbourne and great for Victoria but we look forward to (it) performing financially better than it has and we will be looking to make sure that happens," he said.
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Indian GP organiser quits
More @ http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/66...rganiser-quits
47 days until the start of the season at Bahrain.
The chief organiser of the Indian GP has resigned, the promoters said on Monday, barely nine months before the country is to host its inaugural F1 race.
Mark Hughes, a former No 2 at the Bahrain circuit, in charge of building the Indian facility for the past 12 months, quit last month "due to personal reasons", the promoters said.
Mark Hughes, a former No 2 at the Bahrain circuit, in charge of building the Indian facility for the past 12 months, quit last month "due to personal reasons", the promoters said.
47 days until the start of the season at Bahrain.