Official 2009 Formula 1 Season Discussion
11-05-2009, 04:22 PM
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Renault to announce F1 future before new year
Following Wednesday's emergency board meeting, Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn on Thursday refused to confirm whether the French carmaker will stay in Formula One in 2010.
"You will have to be patient," he told reporters at a PR event. "We will announce our strategy in terms of Renault's role in Formula One before the year's end.
"It's not very far away, it's in a few weeks," Ghosn added.
Citing the global recession and amid the slump in new car sales, Toyota announced its immediate departure from the sport on Wednesday.
It was then reported that Renault was meeting to discuss its commitment to F1. Honda and BMW have already left the sport, and Bridgestone will follow suit after the 2010 season.
Failed FIA presidential candidate Ari Vatanen told CNN the big companies are "right to quit".
"(They) would stay in the FIA championship if the sport was known for positive news and if it was a good avenue for marketing and promotion -- but Formula One is only known for conflict, crisis and court cases recently, and big companies cannot afford that," the 57-year-old Finn added.
We will wait and see if another one bites the dust. Where will teams go for their engines?
Also: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39530
Following Wednesday's emergency board meeting, Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn on Thursday refused to confirm whether the French carmaker will stay in Formula One in 2010.
"You will have to be patient," he told reporters at a PR event. "We will announce our strategy in terms of Renault's role in Formula One before the year's end.
"It's not very far away, it's in a few weeks," Ghosn added.
Citing the global recession and amid the slump in new car sales, Toyota announced its immediate departure from the sport on Wednesday.
It was then reported that Renault was meeting to discuss its commitment to F1. Honda and BMW have already left the sport, and Bridgestone will follow suit after the 2010 season.
Failed FIA presidential candidate Ari Vatanen told CNN the big companies are "right to quit".
"(They) would stay in the FIA championship if the sport was known for positive news and if it was a good avenue for marketing and promotion -- but Formula One is only known for conflict, crisis and court cases recently, and big companies cannot afford that," the 57-year-old Finn added.
We will wait and see if another one bites the dust. Where will teams go for their engines?
Also: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39530
11-05-2009, 05:08 PM
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Too late for Epsilon Euskadi to race in 2010 - boss
Even if yet another team pulls out of Formula One, it is now too late for Epsilon Euskadi to be ready to race on the 2010 Formula One grid.
"The project has been stopped for two months so it is not possible. The car would not be ready in time," boss Joan Villadelprat told Spain's Radio Marca.
"What we could do is take up the work already carried out by one of the other new teams if they are not ready," he added.
However, Villadelprat ruled out buying Toyota's Cologne operation.
"It has many, many jobs and a very big structure; a bag too heavy to carry," he added.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351384:F1
If they aren't ready for 2010, I don't think we will ever see them field a car.
What was I saying? Oh yes, another one bites the dust.
Even if yet another team pulls out of Formula One, it is now too late for Epsilon Euskadi to be ready to race on the 2010 Formula One grid.
"The project has been stopped for two months so it is not possible. The car would not be ready in time," boss Joan Villadelprat told Spain's Radio Marca.
"What we could do is take up the work already carried out by one of the other new teams if they are not ready," he added.
However, Villadelprat ruled out buying Toyota's Cologne operation.
"It has many, many jobs and a very big structure; a bag too heavy to carry," he added.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351384:F1
If they aren't ready for 2010, I don't think we will ever see them field a car.
What was I saying? Oh yes, another one bites the dust.
11-05-2009, 06:09 PM
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Anyone read the article where Trulli bashed Toyota for being inconsistent? What a joke. This coming from the guy who crashed out 16 times on the first lap of GP's.
11-06-2009, 04:32 AM
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11-06-2009, 07:38 AM
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guess explains why he crased alot LOL. I should be shot, for thinking he was the reason for those crashes, guess being a toyota fanboy clouded my judgement.
11-06-2009, 09:51 AM
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Brawn surprised by lack of USF1 activity
Ross Brawn has expressed surprise at the news that USF1, one of three start-up new teams for the 2010 season, has not yet commenced internal crash-testing of components.
The publications Blick and Auto Motor und Sport revealed the news this week, to which Brawn replied: "We have been crash testing for the new car for the past two months, to be ready for the official tests.
"A new team should be doing the same if it wants to be ready for the beginning of the season," the Briton added.
Auto Motor und Sport estimated the chance that the Charlotte-based team will be ready to race in 2010 at "zero".
It has been rumoured that one possible outcome for USF1 is the sale of its 2010 entry to another team.
The reports said that at a recent Formula One Teams’ Association meeting, all team bosses with the exception of USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor wanted to forbid teams from selling their official entries.
Ross Brawn has expressed surprise at the news that USF1, one of three start-up new teams for the 2010 season, has not yet commenced internal crash-testing of components.
The publications Blick and Auto Motor und Sport revealed the news this week, to which Brawn replied: "We have been crash testing for the new car for the past two months, to be ready for the official tests.
"A new team should be doing the same if it wants to be ready for the beginning of the season," the Briton added.
Auto Motor und Sport estimated the chance that the Charlotte-based team will be ready to race in 2010 at "zero".
It has been rumoured that one possible outcome for USF1 is the sale of its 2010 entry to another team.
The reports said that at a recent Formula One Teams’ Association meeting, all team bosses with the exception of USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor wanted to forbid teams from selling their official entries.
11-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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Gee at this rate..who will be in..?
No Honda, BMW, Toyota, maybe Renault (which effects Red Bull).
All we will have is 3 main teams, Ferrari, McLaren, Brawn...who else?
No Honda, BMW, Toyota, maybe Renault (which effects Red Bull).
All we will have is 3 main teams, Ferrari, McLaren, Brawn...who else?
11-06-2009, 04:45 PM
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11-06-2009, 05:07 PM
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I kind of want to see F1 collapse. So all the manufacturers would return to sports car racing, which is A LOT cheaper. They could do a lot with 1/10 the budget of F1, and we might even see the return of Group C racing in the 1980s, and early 90s.
But we all know it won't happen coz bernie controls FIA.
But we all know it won't happen coz bernie controls FIA.
11-09-2009, 06:25 AM
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Windsor rubbishes USF1 rumours
USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor has hit out at recent reports in the media claiming his team will not be ready for the start of the 2010 season, insisting that his team's slot on the grid is not for sale. German publication Auto Motor und Sport reported last week that USF1 had not yet begun crash testing car components, speculating that the team would not make it to the Bahrain Grand Prix grid mid-March.
“We have been crash testing for the new car for the past two months, to be ready for the official tests,” Brawn told Auto Motor und Sport. “A new team should be doing the same if it wants to be ready for the beginning of the season.”
However, Windsor told acclaimed weekly e-magazine GPWeek that the story was completely untrue. “The report seemed to come out of Switzerland/Germany, the land of BMW Sauber,” the Briton told GPWeek.
“A much-respected magazine informed its readers that we had not yet crash-tested any components and therefore had "zero" chance of making the grid in 2010. The reality is that we have already (successfully) crash-tested several components and are right on schedule for more tests this month and in December.
“Like all teams, we currently have our heads down and we're getting on with it. We're not spending every working minute telling the world exactly what we're doing. The question is why a magazine like this would be so inaccurate and careless after years of solid service.”
But Windsor refused to blame Ross Brawn for his quote, suggesting that he was only answering a question put to him by Auto Motor und Sport.
“If you look at the actual quotes attributed to Ross, it looks as though someone from the dreaded Auto Motor und Sport said something along the lines of, 'if a team, or a new team, did no crash testing until the last possible moment, would they be certain of racing in 2010?' to which Ross quite correctly replied 'it would be very difficult', or words to that effect,” Windsor added.
Windsor also insisted that Brawn GP has been very helpful as the North Carolina based team gets ready to roll into F1 next season. “Of everything we are doing at USF1, Ross and everyone at Brawn from my perspective have been nothing but helpful and supportive, so I think the whole thing ends there. In fantasyland.
“Meanwhile, back in the real world, we're re-furbishing some trucks we've just bought from Brawn...”
USF1 enters the F1 fray next season along with fellow newcomers Lotus, Manor and Campos, and although USF1's future is rubber-fastened, doubts remain over the security of some the other new entries.
http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/10313/
I saw that in the news and considered it more rumor than real news. So, I didn't post it. Now, we have this reply from USF1. I think there are people out there that are hopeing for USF1 to fail. There have been several false "news" articles that have come from Europe. At first I thought that maybe Brawn & USF1 were courting the same sponsor. But now it seems that, the news source just plain got it wrong and should have known better.
edit: This is now being reported, in a little more abbreviated form.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351700:F1
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...09132443.shtml
USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor has hit out at recent reports in the media claiming his team will not be ready for the start of the 2010 season, insisting that his team's slot on the grid is not for sale. German publication Auto Motor und Sport reported last week that USF1 had not yet begun crash testing car components, speculating that the team would not make it to the Bahrain Grand Prix grid mid-March.
“We have been crash testing for the new car for the past two months, to be ready for the official tests,” Brawn told Auto Motor und Sport. “A new team should be doing the same if it wants to be ready for the beginning of the season.”
However, Windsor told acclaimed weekly e-magazine GPWeek that the story was completely untrue. “The report seemed to come out of Switzerland/Germany, the land of BMW Sauber,” the Briton told GPWeek.
“A much-respected magazine informed its readers that we had not yet crash-tested any components and therefore had "zero" chance of making the grid in 2010. The reality is that we have already (successfully) crash-tested several components and are right on schedule for more tests this month and in December.
“Like all teams, we currently have our heads down and we're getting on with it. We're not spending every working minute telling the world exactly what we're doing. The question is why a magazine like this would be so inaccurate and careless after years of solid service.”
But Windsor refused to blame Ross Brawn for his quote, suggesting that he was only answering a question put to him by Auto Motor und Sport.
“If you look at the actual quotes attributed to Ross, it looks as though someone from the dreaded Auto Motor und Sport said something along the lines of, 'if a team, or a new team, did no crash testing until the last possible moment, would they be certain of racing in 2010?' to which Ross quite correctly replied 'it would be very difficult', or words to that effect,” Windsor added.
Windsor also insisted that Brawn GP has been very helpful as the North Carolina based team gets ready to roll into F1 next season. “Of everything we are doing at USF1, Ross and everyone at Brawn from my perspective have been nothing but helpful and supportive, so I think the whole thing ends there. In fantasyland.
“Meanwhile, back in the real world, we're re-furbishing some trucks we've just bought from Brawn...”
USF1 enters the F1 fray next season along with fellow newcomers Lotus, Manor and Campos, and although USF1's future is rubber-fastened, doubts remain over the security of some the other new entries.
http://www.manipef1.com/news/articles/10313/
I saw that in the news and considered it more rumor than real news. So, I didn't post it. Now, we have this reply from USF1. I think there are people out there that are hopeing for USF1 to fail. There have been several false "news" articles that have come from Europe. At first I thought that maybe Brawn & USF1 were courting the same sponsor. But now it seems that, the news source just plain got it wrong and should have known better.
edit: This is now being reported, in a little more abbreviated form.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351700:F1
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...09132443.shtml
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11-12-2009, 07:51 AM
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11-12-2009, 07:58 AM
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USF1 paid FIA F1 entry fee
For anyone having doubts whether or not new Formula 1 team 'USF1' is able to make it to next year's grid the FIA revealed that earlier this month the Charlotte based team has paid its entry fee. By paying the non-refundable fee the team has secured its slot for next season's grid in F1.
Newly elected FIA senate president Nick Craw revealed that the team has lodged its entry fee to participate in next year's Formula 1 world championship. Craw told TV channel Speed : "I have taken a complete tour (in the team's factory) on two occasions and was very impressed. If you want any proof to whether USF1 is going to be there or not, they sent their entry fee 10 days ago and the number is close to $ 440,000 so they are going to be there and going to make us proud."
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...-f1-entry-fee/
Also:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...12113845.shtml
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351969:F1
FIA optimistic on US Grand Prix
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...us-grand-prix/
Nothing new here. This is probably just about a reply to a question raised while being questioned about US F1. One potential site, that have been referred to in the past, is a former rail yard in NYC/Manhattan.
For anyone having doubts whether or not new Formula 1 team 'USF1' is able to make it to next year's grid the FIA revealed that earlier this month the Charlotte based team has paid its entry fee. By paying the non-refundable fee the team has secured its slot for next season's grid in F1.
Newly elected FIA senate president Nick Craw revealed that the team has lodged its entry fee to participate in next year's Formula 1 world championship. Craw told TV channel Speed : "I have taken a complete tour (in the team's factory) on two occasions and was very impressed. If you want any proof to whether USF1 is going to be there or not, they sent their entry fee 10 days ago and the number is close to $ 440,000 so they are going to be there and going to make us proud."
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...-f1-entry-fee/
Also:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...12113845.shtml
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351969:F1
FIA optimistic on US Grand Prix
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...us-grand-prix/
Nothing new here. This is probably just about a reply to a question raised while being questioned about US F1. One potential site, that have been referred to in the past, is a former rail yard in NYC/Manhattan.
11-12-2009, 01:59 PM
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FIA Senate president attempts to quell US F1 sceptics
As doubts over US F1, one of four new teams due to join the grid in 2010, continue, FIA Senate president Nick Craw attempts to convince the sceptics.
Despite the rumours, the hype, the press conference and the pictures of men at desks, many remain dubious as to whether US F1 will really happen, indeed, whether it truly exists.
However, four months before the 2010 season kicks-off, Craw is keen to allay fears, revealing that the Charlotte based outfit has already paid its entry fees.
"There are probably some people who would like to see the U.S. team fall by the wayside so they could have their spot on the grid," said Craw in an interview with the Speed TV cable network. "In the old days we used to never count an entry as being real until the cheque had arrived and had cleared. And of course entry fees were non-refundable. If you want any proof as to whether US F1 is going to be there or not, they sent their entry fee in 10 days ago and the number is close to $440,000 (£265,000) so they are going to be there and they are going to make us proud."
Those sceptical of US F1 include Bernie Ecclestone however, the American outfit doesn't help itself by maintaining a policy whereby it ignores requests from the media for information to the point whereby it is only currently giving out info to five chosen outlets. Such a policy, while not only adding to the feeling that there is a certain amount of spin to the team, will also alienate the media, which is never a good thing and certainly not the sort of thing would-be or existing sponsors will want to hear.
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39554
I hate Pitpass.com reports. I have to do a lot of work to post them here. They do their best to make it difficult.
As doubts over US F1, one of four new teams due to join the grid in 2010, continue, FIA Senate president Nick Craw attempts to convince the sceptics.
Despite the rumours, the hype, the press conference and the pictures of men at desks, many remain dubious as to whether US F1 will really happen, indeed, whether it truly exists.
However, four months before the 2010 season kicks-off, Craw is keen to allay fears, revealing that the Charlotte based outfit has already paid its entry fees.
"There are probably some people who would like to see the U.S. team fall by the wayside so they could have their spot on the grid," said Craw in an interview with the Speed TV cable network. "In the old days we used to never count an entry as being real until the cheque had arrived and had cleared. And of course entry fees were non-refundable. If you want any proof as to whether US F1 is going to be there or not, they sent their entry fee in 10 days ago and the number is close to $440,000 (£265,000) so they are going to be there and they are going to make us proud."
Those sceptical of US F1 include Bernie Ecclestone however, the American outfit doesn't help itself by maintaining a policy whereby it ignores requests from the media for information to the point whereby it is only currently giving out info to five chosen outlets. Such a policy, while not only adding to the feeling that there is a certain amount of spin to the team, will also alienate the media, which is never a good thing and certainly not the sort of thing would-be or existing sponsors will want to hear.
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39554
I hate Pitpass.com reports. I have to do a lot of work to post them here. They do their best to make it difficult.
11-14-2009, 10:41 AM
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USF1 The Parody
Day 1 at USF1
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Day 1 at USF1
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Day 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwcZR86pK3Y
Day 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMh3qu5GtZA
Day 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB6eJluXEbs
11-16-2009, 08:02 AM
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11-16-2009, 09:41 AM
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The deal will also have a strong effect on the drivers market. The German car maker has little interest in keeping current drivers world champion Jenson Button at the wheel. Their interest is geared towards creating an all German team. It is widely expected Nico Rosberg will occupy the team's number 1 spot with fellow countryman Nick Heidfeld to complete the line-up.
This of course leaves Jenson Button high and dry. But a recent visit to the McLaren factory with his manager Richard Goddard should be enough evidence as to where his intentions lie. Button is expected to double his £3.5 million salary at the British team and will drive alongside 2008 champion Lewis Hamilton.
11-16-2009, 10:23 AM
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Norbert Haug has confirmed that talks with Nick Heidfeld about a formula one seat for 2010 are taking place.
It has been reported that, despite Kimi Raikkonen and Jenson Button actually visiting McLaren's Woking headquarters in recent days, the 32-year-old German is also in the running to take Heikki Kovalainen's place.
"We are speaking with Nick Heidfeld as well," Haug, Mercedes' competition director, told the German news agency DPA.
"Mercedes-Benz supports the idea of signing an experienced and capable German driver. There is however no reason to finalise the driver situation too hastily," he added.
It is also rumoured that Mercedes may be interested in assigning Heidfeld to Brawn, amid expectations a major collaboration is to be announced this week.
Heidfeld wrote on his official website nickheidfeld.com that he is not worried about his future after not being able to achieve high profile results with BMW-Sauber in 2009.
"Fortunately, the people who run the teams can see beyond that," he said. "So all in all, I'm quite optimistic about the future."
Nico Rosberg is understood to have already inked a contract for 2010, raising suggestions that Jenson Button is being pushed out by Brawn in favour of a German 'superteam'.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10911162...-with-heidfeld
It has been reported that, despite Kimi Raikkonen and Jenson Button actually visiting McLaren's Woking headquarters in recent days, the 32-year-old German is also in the running to take Heikki Kovalainen's place.
"We are speaking with Nick Heidfeld as well," Haug, Mercedes' competition director, told the German news agency DPA.
"Mercedes-Benz supports the idea of signing an experienced and capable German driver. There is however no reason to finalise the driver situation too hastily," he added.
It is also rumoured that Mercedes may be interested in assigning Heidfeld to Brawn, amid expectations a major collaboration is to be announced this week.
Heidfeld wrote on his official website nickheidfeld.com that he is not worried about his future after not being able to achieve high profile results with BMW-Sauber in 2009.
"Fortunately, the people who run the teams can see beyond that," he said. "So all in all, I'm quite optimistic about the future."
Nico Rosberg is understood to have already inked a contract for 2010, raising suggestions that Jenson Button is being pushed out by Brawn in favour of a German 'superteam'.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10911162...-with-heidfeld
11-17-2009, 07:32 AM
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Hmm nelson i think nelson should go with a series, that has pretty much no right turns.
Nelson Piquet has named Force India as a possible employer for the future.
The 23-year-old Brazilian was sacked by Renault's Flavio Briatore earlier this year and then embroiled in the crash-gate scandal, but emerged without a ban due to his whistleblower deal with the FIA.
It has been reported that his famous father, the triple world champion of the same name, is willing to invest money to secure Piquet Jr a seat in 2010.
But Piquet has also been looking around in America; recently testing a NASCAR Truck and attending last weekend's Phoenix event.
"I am close to Force India at the moment, but to me NASCAR is very interesting so I don't know yet what is going to happen," he is quoted as saying by Brazil's globo.com.
"I don't want to take a decision without knowing how things work here in the United States, so I came to be with the drivers and team owners," Piquet explained.
Piquet, who has also been linked with the new Campos and Manor/Virgin teams, admitted that driving a NASCAR doesn't match up to formula one, but would not rule out racing in the tin-top series.
"It is clear that the F1 cars are very much better technologically, the best in the world, but I find that if it is enjoyable, it doesn't matter if I am racing in karts.
"The important thing is to compete," Piquet added.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10911172...ndia-as-option
Nelson Piquet has named Force India as a possible employer for the future.
The 23-year-old Brazilian was sacked by Renault's Flavio Briatore earlier this year and then embroiled in the crash-gate scandal, but emerged without a ban due to his whistleblower deal with the FIA.
It has been reported that his famous father, the triple world champion of the same name, is willing to invest money to secure Piquet Jr a seat in 2010.
But Piquet has also been looking around in America; recently testing a NASCAR Truck and attending last weekend's Phoenix event.
"I am close to Force India at the moment, but to me NASCAR is very interesting so I don't know yet what is going to happen," he is quoted as saying by Brazil's globo.com.
"I don't want to take a decision without knowing how things work here in the United States, so I came to be with the drivers and team owners," Piquet explained.
Piquet, who has also been linked with the new Campos and Manor/Virgin teams, admitted that driving a NASCAR doesn't match up to formula one, but would not rule out racing in the tin-top series.
"It is clear that the F1 cars are very much better technologically, the best in the world, but I find that if it is enjoyable, it doesn't matter if I am racing in karts.
"The important thing is to compete," Piquet added.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10911172...ndia-as-option