BlueEyes

Let's quit arguing with Seiko boy. He clearly knows style.

LIShinka

Having owned 2 G35s and currently owning an RX-8 Shinka, I'll throw in my two cents on the interiors. The gauges and piano black trim in the RX-8 are the only things I would say are superior to what's in the G (and I had an '03 and an '04, not the updated interior). All the pieces in the RX-8 look and feel much less solid (which they are, as it evidenced by the fact that I have already had to take apart the center console cover and use a heat gun to bend the tabs so the button would sit flush and function properly, and the sliding cover comes off it's tracks regularly, and now the guides on both sides are broken) The seats in the G were much more supportive, if a little less stylish than those in the RX. The switches in the G all had a more damped, solid feel. The steering wheel in the G was much thicker and solid feeling with that little bit of give under the leather that lets you feel you have a real hold on it. The first time I test drove the RX-8, I was shocked at how thin the rim of the steering wheel was and how hard it felt. I also have encountered many rattles in the RX-8, such as the pasenger seat, rear package shelf, and inside the passenger door. I've been able to resolve these somewhat, but should I really have to? The G was solid, rattle free, and didn't have the rediculous wind noise above 60 mph that the RX-8 does. I really wish they had paid more attention to these things, that probably wouldn't have pushed the cost up much, if at all. I've never had to take apart as many pieces of an interior to get them to work properly and not rattle. And I know my situation is not unique, as I've used this forum as a reference to find what others have done to fix the problems.

r0tor

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autoweek says the "concept" should be in production late this year or early next... time to start saving

Sportura_Collection

I didn't think I was trying so hard to criticize the G35. I thought I was describing things quite objectively and without too much emotion. It's not like I try too hard to compliment Lexus and Acura interiors. I also acknowledged that the RX8 is full of cheap plastics but the interior looks really stylish. Nissan interiors, including the G35's, are not only cheap but also look tacky.

Sportura_Collection

Please don't call me Seiko boy. If you feel you really must, please ask for my permission first.

BTW, which watch in the collection do you like best?

Sportura_Collection

Yep, I have rattles up the ying yang as well.

playdoh43

considering your descriptions are based on your own oppinion over styling, theres nothing objective about them.

allmotorRX8

it looks good, definitely look more aggressive

Sportura_Collection

You of course are once again wrong, and I knew you would bring this up. Although I express my opinion about the styling, there is little emotion in my words. More importantly my words are detailed in their description. For example, I am very thorough in describing the exact details that I do not like. The details that I do not like (my opinion) are done using objective, descriptive language (You may need to chew on this statement a little while. Please do so before you jump the gun on me yet again). I even go so far as to make comparisons with other cars in order to make my descriptions even more concrete. You on the other hand came up with "sleek styling" and nothing more. You attack me but I did not attack you or anyone else. I am certain you are sensible enough to acknowledge that you have been inconsistent and hypocritical. You also call me a hater. Clearly, there is no hate in my words. Indeed, you are the one who attacks me.

playdoh43

lol calm down dude, i never claimed to be objective.

playdoh43

Nissan never does it right. -subjective

The general design of the interior looks nice and edgy but is so simple that it lacks detail - subjective, its your oppinion that it is simple

, e.g., the vents and the area around them.
The lack of detail all around the plastic trim - subjective, how does it lack detail?

actually increases the salience of the plastic trim, which look dull, cheap, and too simple. - subjective, its your personal oppinion that it lacks detail. LOOKs dull, cheap and too simple to YOU. you call this objective description? nice touch with the word salience btw.

I think people can be induced into an initial illusion, -"you think"= subjective

but upon closer inspection and more time to absorb, it becomes clearer that it's just the same ol' trickery from Nissan. - subjective

Other examples would be that damn steering wheel used across so many Nissans and the interiors of the G35, Altima, 350Z, and Murano. -using the same steering wheel is trickery? subjective

playdoh43

Let me add that Nissan is very smart though. Currently, Nissans have outdated interiors that look like they're from the 80's -subjective and hating

in a gaudy, over-embellished-with-corny-accents -subjective and more hating

(e.g., the ridiculous ubiquitous clock - subjective, hows the clock rediculously ubiquitous? and more hating

, the 3-pod center dash gauge in the 350Z - subjective, 3 pod center dash is outdated? and more hate

, and the chintzy vertical line down the vertical console in the Maxima) - subjective, chintzy to YOU,and more hate.

and cheap plastic sort of way. - I agree but still subjective

All in the name of cost-cutting but trying to manipulate the ordinary masses to not seem like it. -subjective

With so much criticism, Nissan is now doing a different, very very smart, kind of interior: One that seems simpler and futuristic combined with cheap plastics. It's still all in the name of cost-cutting. It's just a new kind of Mind Fu*k that Nissan is so good at. -subjective

Let me put it a different way. When I first saw the interior, I got excited.
Then after a little while of looking at it, I started to laugh to myself. Even though it's stylistically different and is a futuristic concept (that may not be too far from a production interior, I think), it's still got Nissan written all over it. I laughed because it was apparent to me at that point that it was still distinctively Nissan. -subjective

Compare that to the RX8 interior, which is also full of cheap plastics but whose detail is done so tastefully. -subjective

playdoh43

so ok, we know you hate nissan interiors. Great, have a cookie. theres nothing wrong with that. you are entittled to your own oppinion just like the rest of us are. calm down

Sportura_Collection

How about if YOU stop inciting me? I also do not appreciate your last 2 posts, because you do not understand language and its limits in the way that I do. I am not going to explain further here.

I think you realize where I stand intellectually relative to you. Our conclusions here would clearly be the same, both subjective but leading to the same conclusion. Chew on that, my friend.

playdoh43

hahaha instead of challenging/disproving my argument, you have resorted to desperate insults After chewing on that, my conclusion is that I am intellectually superior relative to you. I am quite thrilled that our conclusions are clearly the same

That does not mean we are necessarily right though, since our same conclusions ( I am superior intellectually relative to you) are afterall just our subjective oppinions. The only thing thats objective about our conclusions is that you agree with my conclusion. But in reality both of us could be wrong since our same conclusions are just our oppinions. In order to determin objectivlely that I am indeed intellectually superior to you, we would need to both take an intelligence quality test and compare our scores.

Its ok to hate on the G concept interior and Nissan interiors in general. Its totally fine with me since its just your subjective oppinion based on your subjective descriptions of the interior. my friend

playdoh43

Do you guys watch the Chapelle Show? Clayton Bigsby the black white supremacist once said "If you have hate in your heart let it out " .

While some likes to hate. Ive got nothing but love for the rx8 interior. While I think the G35 interior is better, the rx8 interior is great in its own right and is certainly the best one in its class when compared to the 350Z and S2000 interiors. It has a very clean sporty look with vibrant colors and accents that inspires excitement. It suits the free Zoom Zoom spirit of Mazda very well. Its a very different design style compared to the more luxurious but less sporty G35 interior.

Sportura_Collection

This is one of the dumbest false statements you have yet made. You are hilarious and amusing.

babylou

It is "intelligence quotient" not "quality". You are now declared mentally retarded. Don't feel too bad since you may still be intellectually superior/equal to your sparring partner in this thread. NOW STFU SO WE CAN ALL MOVE ALONG WITH OUR LIVES!

sharward

And now for something completely different...

I sure hope the new G35 (or whatever they choose to call it) has a cloth interior option. A few years ago, leather was difficult to avoid on the G35, but at the present time, it is totally unavoidable -- meaning, there's no such thing as cloth interior on a new G35 short of having it reupholstered.

Don't get me wrong -- I love the look of leather. I love the feel of leather at times. But I've never owned a car with leather seats and I probably never will -- at least not while I live in Sacramento with brutally hot summers. Leather seats in the summer reminds me of the hot, sticky vinyl seats I had to sit on when I was a kid.

Lether seats are also cold in cold weather... That's why they need seat warmers to make them comfortable.

Kudos to Mazda for offering cloth in the RX-8 (albeit only on models < Grand Touring)... Had they not done so, I wouldn't have bought mine.

I've heard some (not all) vegetarians and vegans are disgusted by leather and also avoid it at all costs.

And before anyone suggests seat covers, they would interfere with the air bags and the owner's manual strongly recommended against their use for that reason.

Long live cloth!

Mugatu

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they should do what Buick is doing now with one of their cars....heated and COOLED leather seats. Heck, if Buick can do it, Infiniti can.

sharward

Leave it to the automobile manufacturers to invent a problem (costly leather interior that's uncomfortable at many temperatures) and then "solve" it with costly luxury options (heated and cooled seats)!

playdoh43

im glad I can amuse you my intellecutally inferior friend

playdoh43

G35 has cloth option, you just wont find one on dealerships that dosnt have leather and sunroof. you can however order one with cloth seats

playdoh43

is350 also has ventilated seats, im pretty sure the feature will be added

sharward

That's not reflected on Infiniti's Web site though... There's no mention of cloth being available as a special order option...