playdoh43

what? plastic arnt allowed in cars these days?

playdoh43

you claim it looks miserable yet you fail to give any reason... its miserable because theres plastic in the interior? what kind of car dosnt have plastic in the interior? use of high quality plastic is cheap? youre the only person thats making such an outrageous claim.

Avalonstar

I really like it. This was the only thing really standing in my way before the 8, but this could definitely be my next car if I don't stay with Mazda. But then, that's going to be in 2-3 years, so who knows what'll be out by then.

Sportura_Collection

Here we go again. Uh yeah, because it has plastic in the interior.

Every car has plastic. Honda/Acura and Toyota/Lexus do it right. Nissan never does it right. The general design of the interior looks nice and edgy but is so simple that it lacks detail, e.g., the vents and the area around them. The lack of detail all around the plastic trim actually increases the salience of the plastic trim, which look dull, cheap, and too simple. I think people can be induced into an initial illusion, but upon closer inspection and more time to absorb, it becomes clearer that it's just the same ol' trickery from Nissan. Other examples would be that damn steering wheel used across so many Nissans and the interiors of the G35, Altima, 350Z, and Murano.

Mazda also has a black sheep of a related sort. It's called the Mazda 6. That interior is so devoid of character that it seems like it's from the 80's (which people have said the same thing about with regard to Nissan interiors). I was astonished that they used basically the same interior in the Mazdaspeed 6, which was criticized in the Feb. issue of R&T or C&D (I forgot which one).

Sportura_Collection

Let me add that Nissan is very smart though. Currently, Nissans have outdated interiors that look like they're from the 80's in a gaudy, over-embellished-with-corny-accents (e.g., the ridiculous ubiquitous clock, the 3-pod center dash gauge in the 350Z, and the chintzy vertical line down the vertical console in the Maxima) and cheap plastic sort of way. All in the name of cost-cutting but trying to manipulate the ordinary masses to not seem like it. With so much criticism, Nissan is now doing a different, very very smart, kind of interior: One that seems simpler and futuristic combined with cheap plastics. It's still all in the name of cost-cutting. It's just a new kind of Mind Fu*k that Nissan is so good at.

Let me put it a different way. When I first saw the interior, I got excited. Then after a little while of looking at it, I started to laugh to myself. Even though it's stylistically different and is a futuristic concept (that may not be too far from a production interior, I think), it's still got Nissan written all over it. I laughed because it was apparent to me at that point that it was still distinctively Nissan.

Compare that to the RX8 interior, which is also full of cheap plastics but whose detail is done so tastefully.

playdoh43

Upon looking at the pictures of interiors for the IS350 and Acura TL (the G's main competitors), the areas around the vents are also pretty plain...so it seems to me you just pulled that out of your *** without actually taking a look at them your self.
Anyways if you dont like a sleak clean style thats your oppinion.

In the end it just turns out that your wall of text is just your personal taste over styling, which is subjective and dosnt support your claim about cheap interior. The G concept has way more aluminum accents and other high quality materials than its compeititor. After all your ranting that was going all over the place, the only point you managed to express is that you personally dont like the styling.

mpt_yellowRX8

playdoh, you ever seen a TVR's interior? No plastic anywhere. One of the most beautiful interiors that I've seen. Of course I haven't had the opportunity to be within 3000 miles of one to see it in person, but that's one example.

playdoh43

cool thats very interesting. Ive never seen one, Im interested to see one, but I have a feeling its a very expensive car that cost many times more than the G35.
btw which model are you talking about? is there more than one TVR? http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...6,455&ei=UTF-8
looks like theres plastic to me.

Sportura_Collection

Actually it is you who is talking out of your ***.

Sportura_Collection

This is a hilarious statement you make. I suggest you do exactly what you advise, because you clearly aren't seeing very well. Compare the vents themselves and the visual lines surrounding the vents that are created by the edges of strips of plastics.

I find it amusing that you mention it is my opinion while attacking me. You stated your opinion about the interior but that is exactly what I did as well. The difference is I did not attack anyone. In addition, you attacked me for not delineating exactly what I didn't like, and so I did. However, you have done nothing close; all you have said is it looks sleek. Clearly, you are a hypocrite. And I can also tell you are young and not that bright.

playdoh43

wrong, I simply asked you what makes the interior cheap?, and you went on your wall of text rant and DID NOT explain how the interior is consisted of cheap materials. Instead you just went on to talk about how you dont like the stlying, which I could care less. everyone have their oppinions. I never said you arnt entittled to your own oppinion. Im fine with it that you dont like the styling. I just asked you to explain an argument you have made, which you failed to answer.

Im sorry for the "pulling out of your ***" comment though, in retrospect I didnt need to say that. So I appologiaze. Nor do i really care about your styling related oppinions actually, I just wanted to ask you to back up your argument about the "cheap materials." last time I check, "bad styling" dosnt mean cheap materials?

Sportura_Collection

On the contrary, I have explained exactly what I mean. It seems you are now changing your phrasing again. Here you say that I said "cheap materials." Your posts just before this assert that I complained about "plastic" (when you ask what car doesn't have plastic). I never complained about the car having too much plastic. You should go back to my first and second posts and check out my words again. I said the plastic pieces LOOK cheap and the overall design is too simple and without enough detail. Later, I compare that to the RX8, which also has a lot of cheap plastic but looks stylish, detailed, and well-done instead of cheap.

You need to be careful with the semantics. And why are you changing your own phrasing? You need to be more consistent with your comments. I'm starting to get annoyed with you. If you don't understand what I'm referring to, then ask me. Don't just automatically attack me.

Anyone can look at the pic of the interior and UNDERSTAND what my statements refer to, although they don't necessarily have to agree.

playdoh43

I never said you complained about the car having too much plastic, you said "Materials look real cheap" I was simply curious if the plastic is what youre talking about, when you refer to "materials".

playdoh43

when you say that the material look cheap, im going to assume that you think the interior IS cheap. thats a very logical assumption. so now I get it! great, you think the G concept interior IS cheap because the stlying makes it look cheap lol.

Sportura_Collection

BTW, Nissan will not go to production with those vents. What they will do is add more slats. Mark my words.

The driver instrument gauge brown plastic surround is so Nissan and is not smoothly or subtly integrated. The vertical center console is simple yet amazingly looks garish and indistinctive at the same time. Again we have seen a similar effect with the Maxima's center console and the clock area of the current G35's.

I assure you despite what you claim (or wherever you got that from), the materials will not be lavish or high quality.

playdoh43

lol ok, if you say so. I see you have a vendetta against the interior of this concept. I consider the material very high quality and lavish, and I consider the interior design to be excellent. theres always going to be haters though and haters are going to hate.

AQA101

The exterior reminds me a lot of the new Lexus IS. In other words, the car looks very nice.

Sportura_Collection

The exterior looks awesome, yes I agree. I still think the interior "stinks" of Nissan all over but this one I could accept and buy. The current G35's, I could not buy (and did not buy) simply because of the interior alone.

playdoh43

IMO the current G35 interior is great, design wise, material wise, function wise.

Sportura_Collection

Why am I not surprised?

playdoh43

why should you be suprised?

I wouldnt buy one if I dont like it. The G35 interior is better than the rx8 interior. while you're trying so hard to criticize the G35 and the G concept interior I could step down to your level and easily criticize the rx8 interior. But why step down to that level when I like the rx8 interior?

mpt_yellowRX8

The TVR's interior is all leather and aluminum, or aluminium as the Britt's like to say. If there was plastic they covered it up, and yeah they are mucho expensive. They have some crazy looking cars too. Check out the Sagaris...

Christianv

Rumored to be one of the most difficult cars to drive, too.

mpt_yellowRX8

I'd believe it. So light and powerful. They remind me of the Shelby Cobra, so hard to drive properly, but when someone gets it right nothing can touch them.

BlueEyes

or aluminium as the rest of the world likes to say