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Old 03-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #76
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as much as Mazda wants to move upmarket, I still think this will be one of it's biggest competitors.
A tough choice: 2017 Honda CR-V vs. 2017 Mazda CX-5 - Autoblog

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At its simplest, the CX-5 is the best choice for the driver while the CR-V is the best choice for everyone else aboard. That's not to say they are myopic in those classifications – the CX-5 could still ably handle family duty, while the CR-V is impressively well-rounded to drive in a way that shouldn't turn off those seeking some driving involvement. However, each has a clear focus that sets it down a different path toward different target buyers.
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Ash: here's the Press Kit highlighting the 2017 model changes

2017 CX-5 Press Kit

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THE DIESEL IS A' COMIN' TO 'MURICA

Of course this paragraph was buried in the last few pages and they didn't use the word Diesel in it (I searched first, got nervous then read the whole thing).

"Back at its L.A. Auto Show press debut in 2016, Executive VP of Mazda Motor Corporation Akira Marumoto announced
that Mazda would finally bring its long-awaited SKYACTIV-D 2.2-liter engine to the U.S. in CX-5. The engine promises high
torque, quick response throughout its broad rev range, refinement and hybrid-like fuel-efficiency.
The engine is expected to go on sale in the second half of 2017 in the U.S., and pricing and specifications will be announced
closer to its on-sale date."
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as much as Mazda wants to move upmarket, I still think this will be one of it's biggest competitors.
A tough choice: 2017 Honda CR-V vs. 2017 Mazda CX-5 - Autoblog
That Honda dashboard is making me (and I have a 2002)
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Thanks mate...

Mazda in OZ has said they have never had so much interest in any model in their history (well the CX-5 is their top selling car) and still #2 car maker/seller here, under Toyotal.

Mazda compared to any other brand is all class inside and out, nothing come close for the money.
Still dragging their feet on Android Auto and Car Play which is peeing off a lot of people.
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Yeah, I was reading that the requests for info are off the CHARTS for this car down there. Let's hope that translates to sales both there and here.

AndroidAuto / CarPlay is apparently a hot topic for some.
Some exec (I forget which one) was quoted at last weekend's driving event in San Diego as saying they will retroactively enable it on these cars. Let's hope that isn't 3 years down the road though.
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I uploaded the Press Release and even the new Owners Manual in case anyone wants them.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Documents

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Yeah, I was reading that the requests for info are off the CHARTS for this car down there. Let's hope that translates to sales both there and here.

AndroidAuto / CarPlay is apparently a hot topic for some.
Some exec (I forget which one) was quoted at last weekend's driving event in San Diego as saying they will retroactively enable it on these cars. Let's hope that isn't 3 years down the road though.
As a new owner of the 2017 6, I really hope android auto/carplay comes sooner than later. The infotainment system is in need of a refresh/overhaul if they want to stay competitive. I can't imagine its the work that's holding them up since carplay is already in the Atenza.
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The Soul Red Crystal (46V) paint colour will first be exclusively launched with the KF CX-5.
saw my first one out in the Wild 2 days ago and WOW that color is absolutely stunning.
I saw it in person at the LA Auto Show but it's not the same with indoor lighting because you can make anything look good with the right lighting.

It drove the other direction from me or I would have snapped a picture of it but damn it looked good.
Ash / Zoom: do you guys know what the plan is to add that crystal treatment to the rest of the line down the road?
I remember seeing a post (zoom?) a while back that it would be added to all colors down the road but now can't find that.
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saw my first one out in the Wild 2 days ago and WOW that color is absolutely stunning.
I saw it in person at the LA Auto Show but it's not the same with indoor lighting because you can make anything look good with the right lighting.

It drove the other direction from me or I would have snapped a picture of it but damn it looked good.
Ash / Zoom: do you guys know what the plan is to add that crystal treatment to the rest of the line down the road?
I remember seeing a post (zoom?) a while back that it would be added to all colors down the road but now can't find that.
YEP, she is a great colour...had a look last week.

It is fantastic what they are doing for everyday cars, normally similar processes a few years back cost a fortune to do, now they spray separate levels/layers of mica, etc and get this DEEEEEEP look, but the paint is still very thin....clever.

Other models due to get this colour/process?, I personally have not seen or heard anything, but I am pretty certain you will see it on certain 2018 MY's later this year.
The extra cost is worth it and the physical process for Mazda takes longer than an average in-line paint job as the car shell has to return back in the line for a final layer and clear coat added by robots.
I think you will see it on the ND, and top of line CX-9 and 6, probably with the SA-D (diesels) when they hit North America soon...??
Could be completely wrong.
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I really hope the paint is harder and thicker with less orange peel than other Mazda's within the past decade. It's a real pain in the *** to correct with only so few microns to work with.
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Could they possibly have put any less information on that page?
It literally only says:

The First Ever Mazda CX-5 Diesel. Coming Soon. Available Late 2017.

And the first part of that is a lie.
This is the second Mazda CX-5 Diesel.
They just didn't give us the first one.

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I'm hoping that if they are offering Android Auto/CarPlay upgrades to 1st gen CX-5 owners they'll do the same for us CX-3 owners.
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BC: what's funny is that's exactly what it said MONTHS regarding the new CX. No info, just a landing page to get your info. I will admit, they did actually send me some decent emails along the way.

Preppie, I'm under the impression that those with Mazda Connect systems will be upgraded. Question is at what and whose cost.
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Preppie, I'm under the impression that those with Mazda Connect systems will be upgraded. Question is at what and whose cost.
I'm hoping you are correct. I'd be willing to pay up to 50% more than an aftermarket system with comparable features.
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Mazda Wants Diesel Engine to Make Up 10 Percent of CX-5 Sales in U.S. - Motor Trend


Interesting that it'll only be available on Grand Touring models.
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now this is a much better promo, actually says something and has some class....with our mate Dave.
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KF CX-5 with Cylinder Deactivation appears only for Europe and only in 2.5, EU offers 3 engines 2.0,2.5,2.2D.
Engine is called Skyactiv-G1+ only with Auto Trans , in light cruising mode 2 cylinders are deactivated...save fuel.

Available only with automatic transmission
and all-wheel drive, the SKYACTIV-G1+ 2.5
petrol engine incorporates new technology
to enhance driving performance and lower
fuel consumption, including a cylinder deactivation
system that shuts down two of the
engine’s four cylinders under light loads,
such as when cruising at a constant speed.
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SKYACTIV-G1+ 2.5 PETROL
ENGINE WITH CYLINDER
DEACTIVATION

With an aluminium block and other lightweight
components, a balance shaft that reduces
low frequency booming noise and a 13:1
compression ratio, the 2,488 cc SKYACTIVG1+
naturally-aspirated direct injection petrol
engine delivers excellent dynamic performance
and fuel economy, combined with a
notably quiet drive.
For installation in the all-new CX-5, the engine
benefits from a new cylinder deactivation
system for significant improvements in fuel
economy. It also adopts several combustion
enhancing measures, and new innovations to
further lower friction and noise, and increase
fuel efficiency.
The upgraded engine develops 194 PS at
6,000 rpm and 258 Nm of torque at 4,000
rpm. Equipped with automatic transmission
and i-ACTIV AWD all-wheel drive, it returns
combined cycle fuel economy figures of 7.1
l/100 km and generates CO2 emissions of
162 g/km.

CYLINDER DEACTIVATION SYSTEM
The SKYACTIV-G1+ 2.5-litre petrol engine
adopts a cylinder deactivation system that
shuts down two of the engine‘s four cylinders
under light loads, such as when cruising at a
constant speed.
This is achieved via a switching mechanism
in the hydraulic lash adjusters of the first
and fourth cylinders. When running on all
four cylinders, these serve as the pivot point
for each rocker and the arms operate the
intake and exhaust valves. Applying hydraulic
pressure to the lash adjusters switches the
fulcrum to the valve side, stopping valve movement
to deactivate the two outer cylinders.
Because the firing interval is doubled when
running on two cylinders, engine vibration
is more likely, and the SKYACTIV-DRIVE
automatic transmission is equipped with a
centrifugal pendulum damper to compensate
for this.
Airflow intake volume, fuel injection rates
and ignition timing are all precisely controlled
to allow for the barely-perceptible switch
between two and four cylinders.

Cylinder deactivation is more effective at low
speeds, improving fuel economy by some
20% when driving at a constant 40 km/h, and
by about 5% at a constant 80 km/h.


ENHANCED COMBUSTION
The intake ports have been reshaped to generate
a stronger tumble flow during intake.
Reducing the height of the piston crowns and
optimising their shape also strengthens tumble
flow during compression and increases
the turbulent energy at ignition timing.
These factors cause faster flame spread when
the spark plug fires, and quicker combustion
completion, generating 2% more torque at
low- to mid-range rpm and a 3% improvement
in fuel economy at higher revs.
The tip of the multi-hole fuel injector has
been redesigned and fuel pressure increased
from 20 to 30 MPa, creating a faster and
more broadly dispersed spray, ensuring thorough
vaporisation and efficient, waste-free
combustion.
Three stage fuel injection is used when the
engine is cold and more likely to produce
particulates. This improves the vaporisation
and atomisation of the fuel, making it easier
to burn, reducing the formation of particulate
matter by some 80% and already conforming
to European particulate regulation coming
into effect in 2017.
Finally, a new coolant control valve reduces
the flow of coolant around the combustion
chamber walls to prevent heat from escaping
while the engine begins to warm up, shortening
engine warm up time whilst cutting
down the increase in fuel injection necessary
during cold starts.

REDUCED FRICTION
The sliding surface of the oil rings has been
given an asymmetrical shape, with a larger
outer radius at the top than at the bottom
edge, enhancing the oil smoothing process
and optimising the thickness of the film on
the cylinder wall to reduce friction.
The pistons now feature barrel-shaped skirts,
which optimise surface pressure under load.
In conjunction with the asymmetrical oil
rings, the new skirts significantly reduce
mechanical resistance, contributing to better
fuel economy.
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I had always wondered if Mazda would incorporate cylinder deactivation but when they went to all 4 bangers, I didn't really think they would want the car on 2 cylinders.

so much for that.

Ash: is this for 2018 in the (what we were calling) SkyActiv 2 motors?
and this is one heck of a name.. ."the SKYACTIV-G1+ 2.5" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
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Ash: do you have a link / source for that?
I wanted to share it on another forum. Thanks buddy.



p.s. I know your intel is good, but you know how these guys on the interwebs can get.
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Interesting take on Mazda's potential Diesel sales: https://seekingalpha.com/article/408...terally-diesel

Also, I'm hearing rumblings that Mazda wants to make a big splash when they finally debut another Diesel in the US.
I'm wondering if they consider rolling out a much larger warranty for (aka unlimited miles) like they do north of the border. That might help get people off the fence.
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