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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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to obtain an engine perfectly compliant with US emission rules, they have lost at least 13-15hp from the EU spec version.

Diesel don't work at this level of low emissions request , as said before, looking forward for the next gen Skyactiv Diesel engine. rumors suggest that there will be a inline 6 (MAYBE).
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 01:23 PM
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I like the Inline 6 teaser in your message. Hope...
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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The accountants - make some profit after filing all that $$$ paperwork. Instead of that projects InternalOrder profit center having a -$3623453 amount, it might have only -$748453. Less loss. (calculations assume a profit of 5750 per car to Mazda corporate and a sale of 500 cars in 2019/20.).
Well let's hope those valve springs don't need another recall.

Originally Posted by MattMPS
to obtain an engine perfectly compliant with US emission rules, they have lost at least 13-15hp from the EU spec version.

Diesel don't work at this level of low emissions request , as said before, looking forward for the next gen Skyactiv Diesel engine. rumors suggest that there will be a inline 6 (MAYBE).
Eh, I think diesel is a dying breed with the rise of hybrid. I have said this before: give me three reasons why anyone should buy a CX-5 diesel over a RAV4 hybrid. Hint: the latter is cheaper, have better fuel mileage and can be customized better. Have fun with this one.

As for emissions, 90% of the old diesel cars I have seen spit soot everywhere so they suck at that department anyway. Not that I can judge them much as a rotary owner, but at least we spit cool flames, not soot.

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I like the Inline 6 teaser in your message. Hope...
Unless they redesign the cars to be able to put one in, and Mazda actually decides to go luxury.

You can't just out an I6 in a car designed for I4, and you will need a longitudinal configuration, something no current Mazda use other than the MX-5, obv.

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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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I agree - the last Diesel with it all was the 1998-2003 Golf Diesel. It has the grunt and MPG and was an all-around great car. Simple Diesel technology and required only the water pump/intake cleaning every 120K miles.
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Old Apr 19, 2019 | 04:46 PM
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The CX-5 Diesel is way overpriced at $43000 out the door prior to taxes. If it was line priced with a mid-tier - I'd seriously consider it. They also reduced the warranty to 2/30 from 3/36 - which is a real deal breaker.
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Old Apr 21, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wannawankel
The only downsides are: (4) only a 2 yr/30K mile warranty.
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They also reduced the warranty to 2/30 from 3/36 - which is a real deal breaker.
Hey Wannawankel,

You need to reread the Mazda website.
The 2 years, 30k is NOT the warranty coverage, it is the free maintenance period.

Originally Posted by mazdausawebsite

ZERO MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR 2 YEARS/30,000 MILES

A premium CUV deserves a premium ownership experience. That is why every Mazda CX-5 Signature Skyactiv®-D comes with a zero-cost maintenance program that covers you for the first 2 years or 30,000 miles.1
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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Mazda's goal is to sell only 10% of CX-5 as diesels. That is approximately 13,000-15,000 diesel variants of the CX-5 a year, which is not very ambitious.

It's quite obvious that they're just shoe horning the diesel engine in just to have a recognizable and experimental footing in the US market, thus paving the path for future products. Keep in mind that the current gen CX-5's life cycle is at its final or second to final year.

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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
Mazda's goal is to sell only 10% of CX-5 as diesels. That is approximately 13,000-15,000 diesel variants of the CX-5 a year, which is not very ambitious.

It's quite obvious that they're just shoe horning the diesel engine in just to have a recognizable and experimental footing in the US market, thus paving the path for future products. Keep in mind that the current gen CX-5's life cycle is at its final or second to final year.
Supposedly the global take rate for diesel CX-5 is 9 percent, so 10 is uh, possible? Maybe? Diesels aren't really that popular here outside of trucks.
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Old Apr 23, 2019 | 07:07 AM
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Agreed. It's really dependent on states and their availability of "cheap" diesel.

In New York for example, diesel cars aside from commercial trucks are an extreme rarity due to the lack of refueling availability and an entirely different mentality towards diesels.. A few miles away in New Jersey where diesel is available at nearly every station for the equivalent of gasoline prices, it's not uncommon to see a diesel car. Same applies to certain areas of California.
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