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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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You still thinking about getting a Camaro?
Perhaps, time will tell but I REALLY love it's looks and I love the Chevy V8. I just hope the back seats are RX8 like in the least and GTO like would be GREAT...while I doubt they can give it GTO like rear space.

If the rear seats are useless...then I don't know. Frankly, don't build a 2+2 if it's more like a 2.5 (the .5 comprised of both rear seats combined). That has never made sense to me, but looks wise and engine wise the Camaro looks great.

Price and rear seats will make or break the deal for me when the time comes. I love my 8, but I'd like to own at least one 8 (V8) before fuel economy worries kill it off (perhaps) one day.

Oh, and what Mazda does with the RX8 and what the EVO does with it's price/looks will also play a part in my next car (only after I pay off the RX8). Oh yeah...and if GM builds a RWD Sports Sadan with the LS2.

Well...and my fascination with the A4 might have a say or two. So, it's safe to say that my mind is open...lol.

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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You're right, I can't tell at all where they got their styling cues for the new Camaro. [/sarcasm]
sarcasm? You REALLY think that looks like the best Camaros of the past? It looks like a hollywood stunt car for some comic book. It's all out of balance in the dimensions but I guess that's where we are now days; GM thinks people want to look like comic book pimps and gangsters. Some do, but that ain't me babe.

Of course, at the rate they're losing money it won't matter much longer anyways. They keep designing crap like this instead of classy, elegant cars they'll just break up as a company and be another American icon industry that couldn't overcome it's own inbred inertia.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Here's what Camaros looked like when they were designing cars everybody wanted instead of just for the gangsta hip-hop crowd:
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Then they went from this to this. I'm sorry but I'm seriously disappointed in their design division. Just not what they used to be.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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If Chevy produces a Camaro very similar to the concept (roof is going to have to go up several inches) they will sell several boatloads. A fine looking machine with cues from the past and a modern distinctive style.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ole Spiff
Then they went from this to this. I'm sorry but I'm seriously disappointed in their design division. Just not what they used to be.
Post a poll Ole Spiff. I'm curious how many agree with you. The design seems to follow what sells. The "throwback" vehicles are all the rage. And it is NOT with the hip hop crowd. Trust me, there are no gangstas driving PT cruisers, Mini's, or GTOs & Mustangs. (though the GTO didn't really go very retro)

The Challenger & this Camaro are both pretty obvious attempts at drawing in the baby boomer $$ as they are heading into their twilight. Gangstas like me who like this "modern classic" style are just bonus $$ for GM. Well, not really, since I doubt I'll have the $$ to get this beast w/o giving up my 8 - and that's not happening. Instead, I'll just borrow my dad's! lol.

I do agree with you that there is very little vision in the US car industry, and that's prlly what started the retro movement. It'll be interesting to see what the designs do over the next few years, as people start to look for something that can actually be called "new" and "different".
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ole Spiff
Here's what Camaros looked like when they were designing cars everybody wanted instead of just for the gangsta hip-hop crowd:

The picture I compared the new Camaro to falls in the era that you just showed, the one in my picture is a 1969.

Designing for the gangsta hip-hop crowd? Alright, then. To each his own.

It definitely has cues of the old Camaro's, not of the last body style.

Opinions are like a--holes, everybody has one.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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^^I guess I'm a "gangsta" too because I for one disagree. I think it's beautiful, only surpassed by the older generations. I personally hated the last few generations.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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I'm personally waiting for the Nissan GT-R which is finally arriving in the U.S. Should be around 2008. This baby will have a twin turbo V6. That will produce 500 bhp! I have owned my share of muscle cars including.

77 Trans AM - Smokey and the Bandit
69 SS EL Camino

99 Trans Am WS6

All gave me problems. However, with the older cars. I could fix them myself. These new ones that are due out.....Good Luck after the dinky 3 year warranty runs out.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rebelx
I'm personally waiting for the Nissan GT-R which is finally arriving in the U.S. Should be around 2008. This baby will have a twin turbo V6. That will produce 500 bhp!
Any other rumors?
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rebelx
All gave me problems. However, with the older cars. I could fix them myself. These new ones that are due out.....Good Luck after the dinky 3 year warranty runs out.
guess what...Nissan also has a dinky 3 year warranty (non powertrain). The engine transmission most likely won't break. Anything electronic, well, most people can't fix that themselves anyway, and there are many more electronics on other cars that the Camaro won't have. I've owned 2 Camaros, and 4 GM products none of which ever gave me any major problems (over 500,000 total GM miles).
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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I 2nd the opinion poll suggestion, some classic Camaro folks might not be happy but I think most will and alot of other folks also. But...style is completely subjective.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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okay I posted a poll as a new thread, it's called Camaro, yes or no.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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You guys can all wait.

I'm looking forward to the new Buick Grand National!
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
You guys can all wait.

I'm looking forward to the new Buick Grand National!

A new Grand National? Now THAT could be fun....lol
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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I highly doubt that. Where did you hear about the Grand National?
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