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Originally Posted by Dinhx8
I agree, the Accords and Maximas have been pretty fast for a while-
I think the funny thing is that when comparing cars as quick as the rx8, the rx8 is called underpowered. I.e., your 95 Maxima wasn't underpowered- its quick. But people seem to leave with the impression with these comparisons that the rx8 is slow. The Accord v6 isn't underpowered its well powered. So the fact that it gets times close to the 8 doesn't bother me. It should. I.e., when making the comparisons to cars with similar times, there seems to be an impression that the 8 is slow. Its not that its slow, there are just some other cars just as quick....
I guess it has to do with a lot of peoples expectations that the car should be faster. which is fine by me, and understandable.
But at the end of the day, in my opinion, anything in the 6 or high fives and 14s is still quick. Do i wish it was quicker? sure and yes its annoying when cars like the cobalt are coming close and my Moms v6 accord, but instead of worrying about that and feeling the rx8 slow, i just view those cars as just as quick.
I think the funny thing is that when comparing cars as quick as the rx8, the rx8 is called underpowered. I.e., your 95 Maxima wasn't underpowered- its quick. But people seem to leave with the impression with these comparisons that the rx8 is slow. The Accord v6 isn't underpowered its well powered. So the fact that it gets times close to the 8 doesn't bother me. It should. I.e., when making the comparisons to cars with similar times, there seems to be an impression that the 8 is slow. Its not that its slow, there are just some other cars just as quick....
I guess it has to do with a lot of peoples expectations that the car should be faster. which is fine by me, and understandable.
But at the end of the day, in my opinion, anything in the 6 or high fives and 14s is still quick. Do i wish it was quicker? sure and yes its annoying when cars like the cobalt are coming close and my Moms v6 accord, but instead of worrying about that and feeling the rx8 slow, i just view those cars as just as quick.
The other thing about the RX-8 is besides it being a little down on horsepower it lacks torque and good grip from a standing start. So combine that it isn't all that fast to begin with and that it feels even slower than it is and it's understandable why some people are saying it's slow. It's also following up the FD, and despite what you guys say and Mazda says there are going to be comparisons followed by disappointment.
I've recently put my car back close to stock and it feels pretty damn slow some days, so what is quick/fast and what isn't is certainly going to depend on the individual. I was driving a car that ran 13s and trapped over 100mph almost 15 years ago, so it usually takes a pretty damn fast car to make me go wow. If someone trades in their Tercel for an RX-8 it's going to feel a lot faster to them than it does to me.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
The Cobalt isn't coming close, it's actually a good bit faster than the RX-8. I think it's all relative to the time.I've recently put my car back close to stock and it feels pretty damn slow some days, so what is quick/fast and what isn't is certainly going to depend on the individual.
I agree with your post, i just think that its funny thats all- that people are always like (not you) "the 8 is so slow, my Accords just as fast".
it should read, my accord is as fast as my 8. or my accord is as slow as my 8.
but often the comparisons make the similar car seem fast, and the 8 seem slow-if they are running similar times, then they are the similar adjective, be it fast or slow pending personal experience.
I thought the Cobalt (correct me if im wrong) is (mag times) in the 6s 0-60, and about the same 1/4? I don't know if its a good bit faster as you say-. But of course, real life times without clutch destroyage, its is probably a good bit faster with everyday joe driving.
btw, why's your car back to stock?
Last edited by Dinhx8; Dec 23, 2005 at 01:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
The problem is that the RX-8's exterior just gives everyone the impression that it LOOKS like it is extremely fast and threatening... when it is only, as you put it, quick. It has the looks of a car that could keep up with a Viper, but isn't even close. That's why people say its all show and no go.
Dinhx8 makes a good point. A lot of the 'bad press' is conflicting vocabulary choices or perception colored by expectations on the part of some people. If the RX-8 is (even slightly) faster than a 'quick' sedan then the RX-8 cannot be "slow".
Be serious folks. I don't have any problem with the dozens of sedans and other cars having about the same 0-60 times as the RX-8 because they look boring. Would you have bought a tan Hyundai instead of your RX-8 if Car & Driver had published a report saying it was 0.1 seconds faster in the 0-60? How about 0.3 seconds faster? Of course not.
What if I was a juvinile idiot and I raced an Accord or a Subaru at a traffic light? What if he beat me slightly to the next light? He'd say, "Neener, neener, I beat your RX-8!" I'd say, "Neener, neener, you still drive a station-wagon/shoebox/boring-car (whatever's applicable)!"
Our cars are an attractive total package. There's always something faster or bigger or different no matter what you own, but if you did your research before you bought you should be really pleased with this car and if you want faster - buy a turbo.
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Reviving an old thread...
Here is some styling components for the MS6 from AutoExe. I'm not too hot on the spoiler, but the rest... not bad...
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/car/Atenza(GG)/gy02.html
Here is some styling components for the MS6 from AutoExe. I'm not too hot on the spoiler, but the rest... not bad...
http://www.autoexe.co.jp/car/Atenza(GG)/gy02.html
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From: Away from the fruits of my labor
I test drove the mazdaspeed6 today. The service and salespeople at my local dealer are really cool. The salesperson who rode with me took me to a windy back road with tight 15mph(speed limit) turns including elevation changes. I must say I was impressed. While I did not push the car to its limits(Its not mine), I pushed it harder than I would when normally cruising in the 8. The car only seemed to roll slightly more than the 8(probably due to more weight and a higher center of gravity), but I allways felt in control and the tires never even chirped. Yes the 8 handles better(its supposed to), but as others have allready said the only place an 8 could pass it is on a track. When it comes to acceleration forget about it. My butt dyno tells me the 8 would be at least 2 car lengths behind. Don't misunderstand me. I still love my 8, and nothing beats its looks and handling. But for someone who has a sore lower back(sometimes) and likes to take road trips, the MS6 has me thinking about a trade-in.
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