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Old 09-04-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mac11
all the same MS crap that is available for the RX8.
Hey Mac, I take offence to that comment I have most of that MS crap, I could of spent less and got the same I guess
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Originally Posted by ASH8
When will you guys get it..

The RX-8 Just does not have the development potential for MORE HP, etc, etc.
And gains you see in banger engine design..
Mazda have spent 40 years getting the engine where it is today..at it's limits.
Any add ons like turbo, supercharging, or whatever compromises emissions, reliability,economy, and last PRICE.

IMO this is it, the end of the road for the 8 in a few more years (2012)..
Unfortunately..

I have heard from too many sources that it is the end of the line..
I will repeat if all those who say 'Mazda are committed to the rotary'... well of course they are while they are still making/selling them!

In 2011 the car will fall of the radar.

You can kick my *** if I am wrong
Were you one of the many forum members who said, with confidence, that 2005 would be the last one?
Old 09-05-2007, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hppy4u
If you are content with Mazda's current lineup then it's people like you that will prevent the development of a "real" sports car.
You can't be serious. To suggest that the 8 and the MX-5 are not "real" sports cars is absurd. The best sports car may—or may not—be the fastest car. Unlike muscle cars, speed is merely one factor in evaluating a sports car. For many of us around the world, balance, handling and "feel" are equally—if not more—important. Grow up.

"The Z may be faster, but the RX-8 is the better sports car."—edmunds.com RX-8 vs. 350-Z shootout

"The RX-8 is different, but it's a true sports car. For this, Mazda should thank the intensity of its rotary engine. The truth is, the rotary engine has incredibly powerful imagery, and it defines Mazda in a world where brand identity is hard to come by."—Automobile Magazine

"…the challenge of maintaining velocity in this car is ultimately more rewarding than relying on the gas pedal in the others to make up for your mistakes. That’s not to say some extra power isn’t sorely needed here — it is — but even at the ripe old age of five, the RX-8 pleases us the most."—Car and Driver comparo (1st place vs Audi TT, Nissan 350Z, Mustang), June 2007

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Originally Posted by New Yorker

"The Z may be faster, but the RX-8 is the better sports car."—edmunds.com RX-8 vs. 350-Z shootout

"The RX-8 is different, but it's a true sports car. For this, Mazda should thank the intensity of its rotary engine. The truth is, the rotary engine has incredibly powerful imagery, and it defines Mazda in a world where brand identity is hard to come by."—Automobile Magazine

"…the challenge of maintaining velocity in this car is ultimately more rewarding than relying on the gas pedal in the others to make up for your mistakes. That’s not to say some extra power isn’t sorely needed here — it is — but even at the ripe old age of five, the RX-8 pleases us the most."—Car and Driver comparo (1st place vs Audi TT, Nissan 350Z, Mustang), June 2007
Well put
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
Hey Mac, I take offence to that comment I have most of that MS crap, I could of spent less and got the same I guess
From riding in your car at the Autobahn, I was really impressed with the MS suspension.
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Originally Posted by New Yorker
"The RX-8 is different, but it's a true sports car. For this, Mazda should thank the intensity of its rotary engine. The truth is, the rotary engine has incredibly powerful imagery, and it defines Mazda in a world where brand identity is hard to come by."—Automobile Magazine
This is why the RX-8 is the FLAGSHIP of Mazda lineup right now, it is a beacon of identity for the whole company.
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Yup. A hundred years from now, it's what Mazda will be remembered for. (And not just for the engine, itself. The rotary represents Mazda's commitment to innovative thinking, engineering, and technology. That's why the 8 is the flagship—fastest or slowest, it's a symbol that represents everything Mazda is about.)

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Old 09-05-2007, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by devildog1679
Hey Mac, I take offence to that comment I have most of that MS crap, I could of spent less and got the same I guess
LOL...don't sweat it man. by crap i didn't mean crap , i meant crap !
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Some company are still searching for their brand identity. Mazda has a strong one - the Rotary.
Subaru is AWD
Volvo - safety
etc...
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
From riding in your car at the Autobahn, I was really impressed with the MS suspension.
Thanks, I need to take a ride in yours nexdt season. Want to see the difference.
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Originally Posted by delhi
Some company are still searching for their brand identity. Mazda has a strong one - the Rotary.
Subaru is AWD
Volvo - safety
Honda - Ricer
etc...
There I fixed it for you
Old 09-07-2007, 09:44 AM
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The RX-8 is definitely a niche car.

And while we'd all like to see more power, as others have said this car is not all about power. That's why it's a niche car. The rotary's size and light weight is what allows us to have 4 seats, a decent trunk for a sports car, and still have sports car dimensions.

And if power is everything, tell me this - one of my wife's coworkers drives an E46 M3 and does track days regularly. When he found out I had an 8 and was going to take it to the track for the first time (leaving in about two hours!), he went on and on about how this 8 passed him easily at autobahn on his last track day. Turns out it was devildog with his MS mods I believe the e46 has about 300hp, so obviously power is not everything.

Unfortunately most people don't understand that, because most people won't consider an 8 because of its lower power figures.
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Not to mention you can rev the living crap out of this motor and it is actually GOOD for it!
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Mazdaspeed left their flasgship sports car out to dry. They appear only to want to play with off the shelf turbo piston engines. Mazdaspeed did not have the ***** to do FI for the rotary. Mazdaspeed don't even compare to the pro-tuners doing things for the RX-8, and they work for Mazda.

Bottom line Mazdaspeed sucks dirt. They should be called Mazda "enhance" or Mazda "little extra", etc....
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...your'e all wrong. The real flagship is the 1967 Mazda Cosmo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mo_sport_1.jpg

......now where have my tablets gone?
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Originally Posted by sosonic
Mazdaspeed left their flasgship sports car out to dry. They appear only to want to play with off the shelf turbo piston engines. Mazdaspeed did not have the ***** to do FI for the rotary. Mazdaspeed don't even compare to the pro-tuners doing things for the RX-8, and they work for Mazda.

Bottom line Mazdaspeed sucks dirt. They should be called Mazda "enhance" or Mazda "little extra", etc....
i doubt they could have gotten a turbo rotary to pass carb emmissions

that's one of the main reasons why the FD was no longer sold in the US in 95 was because of tightening emmissions standards
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