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Old 09-30-2008, 05:11 PM
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Is it only for automatic transmissions due to safety concerns?
For manual transmissions, the system could disengage the clutch and then set the piston position when speed gets to zero, no?
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what does the piston being stopped in that position help?
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I don't get it. I'm assuming this is to save fuel?
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Yep, it is to save fuel, at idle.

I assume it would be for both auto and manual transmissions and is ECU controlled via gas pedal.

I guess the piston stops in the centre or middle position so there is enough capacity by volume to "Squirt" or atomise enough fuel and then ignite, you have to remember this process takes only a few tenths of a second to start up engine.
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I take it they couldn't do anything like this for a rotary. Idling a rotary is absolute murder on gas. Something like this would help tremendously. It'll be interesting to see how the direct injection on the 16x helps mileage.
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To better explain the piston stop position, imagine that you're on a bicycle.
Also imagine that the pedal crank is at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. It would be tough to get going without pushing off wouldn't it? Now imagine that the pedals are at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock. It would be much easier to get going from this pedal position. You wouldn't need much less external assistance, like pushing off (or an electric starter in Mazda's case).
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^good analogy
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Yep, it is to save fuel, at idle.

I assume it would be for both auto and manual transmissions and is ECU controlled via gas pedal.

i've read somewhere that it's only for AT transmission...but i don't know if is it true or not.....
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...da-3-siss.html

"Mazda plans to use this technology on petrol engines before applying it to a new 1.6-litre rotary unit, due in 2010"

I don't think the writer of this story has this one correct, I am almost certain the SISS will not transfer to the 16X.
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How the hell could they do that to the 16x? If it does happen, rocking.

And 2010 release for the engine? That seems..early?
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^ Constant flooding ftw!
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Originally Posted by dynamho
To better explain the piston stop position, imagine that you're on a bicycle.
Also imagine that the pedal crank is at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. It would be tough to get going without pushing off wouldn't it? Now imagine that the pedals are at 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock. It would be much easier to get going from this pedal position. You wouldn't need much less external assistance, like pushing off (or an electric starter in Mazda's case).
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
^ Constant flooding ftw!
What if before it shuts all the way off, it does a "fuel cut" on that rotor for a few revolutions then stops it so no flooding?
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