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MattMPS 09-30-2010 02:17 PM

from automotive news

http://www.autonews.com/section/notes50

Mazda Shinari a no-show
Posted 10:08 am U.S. ET, Sept. 30

After three years of hyping the scalloped sheet metal of its "Nagare," or "flow," design language, Mazda drove a stake through its heart with the departure of chief designer Laurens van den Acker.
The "Shinari" design language of new chief designer Ikuo Maeda may not make it out of the gate.
Teased three weeks ago in Italy, the intended Paris show car never made it to the stand. A Mazda source said "the company decided not to bring it to Paris." When pressed as to whether it was due to negative reaction from the media at the Shinari's preview, there was a subtle nod and smile. Long live the king?

Mark Rechtin


Read more: http://www.autonews.com/section/notes50#ixzz112dWq97G


just one question...where are the "negative comments", Mr. Mark Rechtin..?

proper automotive journalist have written that Shinari will NOT be displayed at Paris since the 1st and 2nd of september ....you are misinformed...,)

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/25...i_concept.html

citation: "But this one, unveiled at an exclusive private viewing in Milan and not destined to appear at the Paris Motorshow,"

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...cial-pictures/
citation: "The Shinari won't be shown at the 2010 Paris motor show (apparently it's being held back for a 2011 Geneva debut), yet this is a landmark concept for Mazda design, under the new leadership of chief design Ikuo Maeda."

Spin9k 09-30-2010 03:10 PM

{Typical idiots} -Beloved pundit who suddenly and uncharacteristically is- preaching to the uninformed spreading confusion and fomenting dissent and conjecture about nothing... or perhaps ... :squint:

ASH8 09-30-2010 03:11 PM

For the Journo's at the Milan event (GoAuto Australia), they were told it Would NOT be shown at Paris MS...

I posted that here also..

So, anything else reported, Including Evo have just "assumed" the Shinari would be there in Paris, Mazda Officially said it would not...right at the start.

zoom44 09-30-2010 03:32 PM

That's pretty strange for Mark Rechtin. He's had the Mazda beat for years and is actually well informed about what s going on in the company.

RIWWP 09-30-2010 03:45 PM

I'll admit, I was a bit disappointed to not see it at Sevenstock.

Of course, I didn't realize that it wasn't there, and that I was disappointed about it, until after I got home a week later...


...so it's all good :)

ASH8 09-30-2010 05:02 PM

This is what I have about Mazda and Paris MS..

"Mazda presents the European premiere of the new facelift version of the current Mazda2 at this year’s Paris Motor Show with many updates meant to make the 2008 World Car of the Year even more appealing. The recently-launched second-generation Mazda5 and the current Mazda3 are also a focus in Paris, both with updated common-rail diesel versions delivering reductions in fuel consumption, CO2 emissions, and Euro 5 compliance. The stand will also have detailed information about Mazda’s eco-friendly SKY Technologies, which will see global roll-out in the near future."

ASH8 09-30-2010 05:12 PM

When pressed as to whether it was due to negative reaction from the media at the Shinari's preview, there was a subtle nod and smile. Long live the king?..

What a load Of BULLSHIT...There has been NO NEGATIVE REACTION from the "Media"...

Jeez, they will say anything to promote their perceived "importance"...was Marky boy actually In Milan??...not from what I hear...and Autonews were very late reporting this...after it was leaked...

I see, I answered my own question as it was a Canadian who leaked it while under an embargo, this from my Mazda Australia source.

Marky did not get the "Scoop"..

zoom44 09-30-2010 05:31 PM

Mark is in Paris at the show. Thats how he interpreted the answer from the person he was talking to.

Mind you I dont understand what negative reaction he is asking about either. But you guys are being a little harsh to a guy who has helped us out in the past and helped keep us informed.

DocBeech 09-30-2010 05:48 PM

absolutely beautiful

ASH8 09-30-2010 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3732761)
Mark is in Paris at the show. Thats how he interpreted the answer from the person he was talking to.

Mind you I dont understand what negative reaction he is asking about either. But you guys are being a little harsh to a guy who has helped us out in the past and helped keep us informed.

Sorry Charlie, I guess it is ME who is being the "harsh" one, you know me....It is just my usual, arrogant, know all, sarcastic self, the OZZIE in Me...:tear:

When will I learn..!!??!!:crying:....;)

MattMPS 10-01-2010 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3732761)
Mind you I dont understand what negative reaction he is asking about either. But you guys are being a little harsh to a guy who has helped us out in the past and helped keep us informed.

ok, but this time Mark is not so well informed and IMHO was not @ Milan event.....he assoumed to see Shinari and jumped to conclusion(in Paris) too early...;)

BoomerBurt 11-09-2010 07:16 AM

I see clear Nagare design influence here...especially in the rear 3/4 view. I think this is a good thing. 'Pears to me that they have fully investigated Nagare and taken the best of it on into the next stage: Kodo. I think it would be a waste to have thrown out the good aspects of Nagare for something totally different.

I've had my '04 RX-8 seven years this month. As much fun as it is to drive, I am ready for a slightly larger vehicle. The Shinari appears to be a good direction, as long as it is still a fun-to-drive car and not ridiculously expensive. The talk of upgrading interior quality makes it sound like they are moving up-market price-wise.

BoomerBurt 11-09-2010 07:42 AM

BTW - The Shinari concept has a proper Mazda grill...not the Mazda3 shit-eating-grin front end. Whoever was behind that abomination should have been shot.

Mazmart 11-09-2010 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by BoomerBurt (Post 3778093)
I see clear Nagare design influence here...especially in the rear 3/4 view. I think this is a good thing. 'Pears to me that they have fully investigated Nagare and taken the best of it on into the next stage: Kodo. I think it would be a waste to have thrown out the good aspects of Nagare for something totally different.

I've had my '04 RX-8 seven years this month. As much fun as it is to drive, I am ready for a slightly larger vehicle. The Shinari appears to be a good direction, as long as it is still a fun-to-drive car and not ridiculously expensive. The talk of upgrading interior quality makes it sound like they are moving up-market price-wise.

As you have revived this aging thread, I have to say you are keen in your observation. They did not discard everything Nagare. You should be careful not to think that Shinari indicates anything specific about any upcoming model. Mazda may or may not create anything larger than their current crop of vehicles and right now they are heavily focused on weight reduction so I would not count on size increase.

Paul.

T-von 02-14-2011 12:59 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Here's a chop I found. If only Mazda actually made this. :eek:

http://bramdc.deviantart.com/art/Maz...cept-178527555

Mazda needs to hire this guy!
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...4&d=1297666682


It looks sooo production ready. Best chop I have ever seen hands down!


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