Mazda Kabura prototype
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I thought the same thing when I read the article! [I] They very well could drop by on the forum. Some of them used to (and still do) drop by the miatanet forum. I'm not sure why they would call us whinners for wanting a rotary, but oh well.. I'll keep my subscription for now.
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It might be helpful if those scans were actually readable!
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thanks for scanning that article onto here. a great read really enjoyed it!
so i was under the impression that mazda WAS planning on putting it into production. but in the video they say mazda does not plan on producing the kabura. what's the deal?
so i was under the impression that mazda WAS planning on putting it into production. but in the video they say mazda does not plan on producing the kabura. what's the deal?
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Okay, save to desktop and zoom in. That works.
If this comes out in 3 years, I still say it's going to replace the RX-8. It does what the 8 does, but better...and the 8 will be about due for a redesign in 2009 anyhow. With a sub-2800 lb. weight (hopefully, but not confirmed) and 4-cylinder base model (pure speculation), it would solve the only real problems with the 8 (mediocre power/weight ratio, less-than-ideal sales volume)
If this comes out in 3 years, I still say it's going to replace the RX-8. It does what the 8 does, but better...and the 8 will be about due for a redesign in 2009 anyhow. With a sub-2800 lb. weight (hopefully, but not confirmed) and 4-cylinder base model (pure speculation), it would solve the only real problems with the 8 (mediocre power/weight ratio, less-than-ideal sales volume)
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
If this comes out in 3 years, I still say it's going to replace the RX-8. It does what the 8 does, but better...and the 8 will be about due for a redesign in 2009 anyhow. With a sub-2800 lb. weight (hopefully, but not confirmed) and 4-cylinder base model (pure speculation), it would solve the only real problems with the 8 (mediocre power/weight ratio, less-than-ideal sales volume)
#32
Well, I'm working on the assumption that Mazda won't produce two RWD coupes that are only a few thousand dollars apart in price, it just doesn't make sense. I know they say they are going to build this to start out under $20k, but I'll believe it when I see it. Maaaybe they can ditch the convertible top and get the price down that low.
I think this car could do everything the RX-8 does better--if it has a rotary option of course. When I say that, I'm assuming that the seating arrangement is feasible, and that the weight can be kept well below the 8's 2,960+ weight.
I think this car could do everything the RX-8 does better--if it has a rotary option of course. When I say that, I'm assuming that the seating arrangement is feasible, and that the weight can be kept well below the 8's 2,960+ weight.
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Originally Posted by BaronVonBigmeat
Well, I'm working on the assumption that Mazda won't produce two RWD coupes that are only a few thousand dollars apart in price, it just doesn't make sense. I know they say they are going to build this to start out under $20k, but I'll believe it when I see it. Maaaybe they can ditch the convertible top and get the price down that low.
I think this car could do everything the RX-8 does better--if it has a rotary option of course. When I say that, I'm assuming that the seating arrangement is feasible, and that the weight can be kept well below the 8's 2,960+ weight.
I think this car could do everything the RX-8 does better--if it has a rotary option of course. When I say that, I'm assuming that the seating arrangement is feasible, and that the weight can be kept well below the 8's 2,960+ weight.
convertible top? No, the Kabura doesnt have a convertible top. Just the weird all glass thing that surely wouldnt make it to production.
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Whoops, what I meant was: The Miata costs over $20k, so how are they going to sell this car for $20k? But convertible tops add a pretty good bit of money to the price of any car, so by making it a hardtop they might be able to have a slightly-stretched, 3 +1 passenger, hardtop Miata for $20k.
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Scion TC's have the all glass roofs and they are in production. the New MB's are going to have only all glass roof's. Dont see why Mazda couldn't make this work on a production Kabura.
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convertible top? No, the Kabura doesnt have a convertible top. Just the weird all glass thing that surely wouldnt make it to production.
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Just saw this car at the NY auto show. Have pics if anyone wants to see. I thought the car was very attractive in person. The lighting appointments (headlights, taillights, and other exterior lighting was ultra-cool, but the interior layout in bazaar. I do not agree that the 2+1 seating is ideal in any way. When I first heard this concept in the Kabura, I thought it might be a single center seat in the rear, but instead the seat is on the right behind the front passenger with what looks like totally wasted space behind the driver. Why not just design an honest 2+2? I know Mazda wants to be different, but the current lay jut does not make sense. In addition, the retractable real half-door, while looking and sounding cool in concept, looks completely useless for ingress and egress to the one rear seat. I love the coupe design, though, and wish to this day this is what Mazda designed for our RX-8's. I think this would be a cool replacement for the RX-8 if they could make it a good performer, use the rotary (of course - but maybe a bit more refined), and make the retractable door truly useful or get rid of it in favor of a RX-8 type hinged door or make it a 2+2 with no rear door at all. Still a really cool car, just needs some more R&D. ;-)
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The retractable rear half-door adds weight and complexity and is totally useless, it might not make it to production, as with the 2+1, but i heard its actually 3+1, theres a seat behind the driver, you have to fold it down i think (from what i saw in the pic).
The glass roof MIGHT make it to production tho, there are more and more cars like that now, i think i've seen a few on the road. But it'll be $$ to replace
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The glass roof MIGHT make it to production tho, there are more and more cars like that now, i think i've seen a few on the road. But it'll be $$ to replace
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Just got an email from Kabura forums.
I didn't see these here anywhere so thought I'd post the new Kabura photos.
I didn't see these here anywhere so thought I'd post the new Kabura photos.
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Considering Mazda turned the Evolve into the rx-8 (quite a miracle I might add) the Kabura (if it goes into production) should be sexxxxxxyyyy as hell.
evolve (ugly) -> rx8 (attractive)
kabura (attractive) -> rx3/mx3 (godly!)
evolve (ugly) -> rx8 (attractive)
kabura (attractive) -> rx3/mx3 (godly!)
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