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Mazda 6 2014 now in US- Diesel delayed, again!

Old 01-12-2014, 10:58 AM
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While Mazda understands its SKYACTIV-D can meet emission regulation requirements without the use of a NOx after-treatment system, it was decided that further development is required to deliver the right balance between fuel economy and Mazda-appropriate driving performance. Further information on the program, including a timeline of launch for North America, technical specifications and fuel economy will be available at a later date, closer to launch.

And exactly when is this going to happen again?

And what exactly do they mean when they say a balance between fuel economy and Mazda appropriate driving experience? Does that mean that all the other markets that currently have the SkyActiv-D vehicles either are not getting good fuel economy, or that they don't drive like a Mazda should?

Can I call BS on a manufacturer?

Originally Posted by MattMPS View Post
that's why as European customer I'm very happy with my 2.5 wagon gasoline Mazda6 GJ.
Sorry Matt,

Mazda hoodwinked you.
You either don't get enough fuel economy, or your M6 Wagon actually drives like a Corolla.
Mazda said so, so it has to be true.

BC.

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Old 01-15-2014, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladecutter View Post
Sorry Matt,

Mazda hoodwinked you.
You either don't get enough fuel economy, or your M6 Wagon actually drives like a Corolla.
Mazda said so, so it has to be true.

BC.
No problem...i'm writing on the road and not from a Mazda shop for problems ofDPF and "forced regeneration process" on course by Mazda technicians.....
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:49 PM
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:36 PM
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time to update the title to this thread?
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:42 PM
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That will be a bold move IMO. No other Japanese manufacturers are doing it in NA, and most of the newer diesel cars(not trucks) I see are Golf TDI.

How many diesel passenger vehicles(so trucks don't count) get sold in NA anyway?
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:45 PM
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very bold move because it speaks to Mazda as a whole continuing to push back and defying conventional wisdom. At Mazda's core they're a die hard group of dedicated engineers who just view problem solving differently.

they know they can get a diesel to work efficiently, they've been doing it for some time but now it's nice to see the leaders at the top (who control the $$) letting them pursue that.

I'm hoping we do see Diesels in the US in the near future. Yes, we can argue all day that SkyActiv-X will destroy the Diesel's benefits but that's assuming the X goes off without a hitch and you forget how crazy loyal some diesel fans are. Yes, they're a small percentage of the car buying population but they have money and with fewer passenger cars offered in diesel these days, Mazda can potentially capture a large portion of them by doubling down and having the 2.2D in the CX-5 and the Mazda 6.
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Originally Posted by Jedi54 View Post
very bold move because it speaks to Mazda as a whole continuing to push back and defying conventional wisdom. At Mazda's core they're a die hard group of dedicated engineers who just view problem solving differently.

they know they can get a diesel to work efficiently, they've been doing it for some time but now it's nice to see the leaders at the top (who control the $$) letting them pursue that.

I'm hoping we do see Diesels in the US in the near future. Yes, we can argue all day that SkyActiv-X will destroy the Diesel's benefits but that's assuming the X goes off without a hitch and you forget how crazy loyal some diesel fans are. Yes, they're a small percentage of the car buying population but they have money and with fewer passenger cars offered in diesel these days, Mazda can potentially capture a large portion of them by doubling down and having the 2.2D in the CX-5 and the Mazda 6.
To be fair, I can see where the higher-ups are coming from.

You can't just bet that a group of people will buy a high-volume car like this. Putting your eggs in one basket is a risky move. You have to consider the normal, average car buyers as well, which will provide most of the sales volume. Even a Miata has to be appealing to folks who are not enthusiasts, and at least it's supposed to be a low-volume vehicle.

If you think about it, what're the main advantages of a diesel? Good fuel mileage and low-end torque. The first problem is solved by hybrid vehicles, while turbo gas engines nowadays can easily solve the 2nd(unless that Skyactiv 2.5T's 310 ft-lb is still not enough somehow). Not a lot of folks care about driving excitement nowadays. A sad truth, but Prius is still more prevalent.

And then there are the disadvantages. More cost upfront, higher maintenance cost, and all the work VW has done for it. Seriously, it's very hard for the general public to think good things about diesel again, and those rednecks that are rolling coals certainly won't help.

As for Skyactiv-X, at least it's a new technology and has a clean slate(and hopefully stays that way). It's not tainted by VW or anyone before.
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:17 PM
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The refreshed 2.2 D has 190 PS and 332 ft-lbs !! Is that what we're getting if anything?
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hey Charlie, can we update the thread title?
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to what? maybe i should split it and take the stuff, from you on the 24th forward, into it's own thread?
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