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Old 07-31-2006, 04:32 PM
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any info would be great, any word on the other corage mazda, you know the road & track car?
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They should hire rgonza and RX8PR to make them a turbo 20B RX-8 for the GT class ;-)
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it was propouse to make a low boost supercharge 20b and mazda decline, they want a 4 rotor.
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
any info would be great, any word on the other corage mazda, you know the road & track car?
What other Courage? Road and Track is sponsoring the same one.

As far as I know, they never had any intention of running with a supercharger or any other forced induction.
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From www.kumhousa.com:

Lime Rock Damage to Keep Road & Track/KUMHO/MAZDA From Salt Lake and Portland

(Saukville, Wisconsin) Thursday, July 13, 2006… When the green flag drops on this weekend’s American Le Mans Series event at Miller Motorsports Park, outside of Salt Lake City, Utah…a familiar sound will be absent…that of the 3 rotor Mazda, which powers the B-K Motorsports LMP 2 entry. Unfortunately, damage sustained in the incident during the first hour of the New England Grand Prix at Lime Rock is such that the team could not get the car repaired in time.

“We have been working significant hours to get things repaired in time, and we did not want to take any chances with the components on the car that have been hard to get replaced quickly…we simply could not get some of the necessary spares in our hands fast enough,” commented Marcus Haselgrove, Team Manager/Technical Director for B-K Motorsports.

B-K kicked off the 2006 campaign with a 5 th place finish at the 12 Hours of Sebring, followed by a runner-up finish on the temporary circuit in Houston. A week later, a 4 th place finish at Mid-Ohio had Jamie Bach and Guy Cosmo sitting third in the LMP 2 points standings heading into the Lime Rock event. Unfortunately, the Lime Rock incident handed the team their first DNF of the season…and only their second DNF in 13 ALMS starts…dating back to April 2005 when the team debuted the 3 rotor Mazda.

“We talked with KUMHO and Road & Track and we all agreed that taking our time and having everything in place is the only scenario. We are making plans to rejoin the ALMS as soon as possible…and we can all hear the echos of the Mazda rotary power again,” added Haselgrove.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
What other Courage? Road and Track is sponsoring the same one.

As far as I know, they never had any intention of running with a supercharger or any other forced induction.
it was sugested by some people in the team to run a low boost supercharger 10 psi to be especific and mazda said no.
see https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...courage+update , here boosted7 corfirms this

I was asking boosted7, he said he was going to talk to spencer an I asked about the bk motorsport road&track car ( the other corage)

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Crap ... crap! Looks like the BK car won't be running at Road America either, still working to repair the car from the Lime Rock damage.
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
it was sugested by some people in the team to run a low boost supercharger 10 psi to be especific and mazda said no.
see https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...courage+update , here boosted7 corfirms this
A few of us including myself had said that forced induction might be a better way to go depending on the rules but at no time did Mazda ever say they were going this route. It was just forum chat.

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I was asking boosted7, he said he was going to talk to spencer an I asked about the bk motorsport road&track car ( the other corage)
The BK Motorsport road and track car IS the Courage everyone has been talking about. It's the only one that has been racing. Dennis Spencer did just buy a complete team and did get a Courage or 2 out of it but this was just announced and no one yet knows what the plans are for him and his team. As of now there is and always has been only 1 rotary powered Courage racing.
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Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
Crap ... crap! Looks like the BK car won't be running at Road America either, still working to repair the car from the Lime Rock damage.
Do you have any pictures of the damage? I've never seen any. How bad could it have been? Or is it more of a budget thing that is slowing repairs? As long as the delay hasn't been centered around a hydrogen attempt I'm happy.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
A few of us including myself had said that forced induction might be a better way to go depending on the rules but at no time did Mazda ever say they were going this route. It was just forum chat.


The BK Motorsport road and track car IS the Courage everyone has been talking about. It's the only one that has been racing. Dennis Spencer did just buy a complete team and did get a Courage or 2 out of it but this was just announced and no one yet knows what the plans are for him and his team. As of now there is and always has been only 1 rotary powered Courage racing.

lets see how to put this, it was sujested by TEAM MEMBERS to use a low boost superchager at 8 to 10 psi to give the car some more of the corner aceleration, the fact that boosted7 said something about it is completly separede from where I got the info.

spencer its putting a rotary engine in it, the only question remaining is if it is going to be a 4 or a 3 ROTOR.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Do you have any pictures of the damage? I've never seen any. How bad could it have been? Or is it more of a budget thing that is slowing repairs? As long as the delay hasn't been centered around a hydrogen attempt I'm happy.
maybe mazda wants to star using the lola?
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I haven't seen pictures of the damage, but from what I understand it was extensive. A 120 mph hit with the wall, and then getting T-boned by a Ferrari while sitting. So yea Fred, it just boils down to a team with a budget doing the best they can ... and having a very specialized setup that makes it even harder to acquire parts. So don't expect anything ground breaking for 2006, but the good news is they're not sticking with the status quo for '07, they know they need more speed and are working to make the chassis/engine changes needed.

I haven't spoke with Dennis Spencer yet, but from what I understand he's not really meaning to actively race the car ... unless a big sponsor pops up. It's good to have rotary guys spending money, but I know we'd all love to see him field the car in LMP2.
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These were posted over at the American Le Mans Series Forums. Since you have to register to view their forums I'll try to post them here. The pictures were taken by Captain Obvious (Dave).



And this was posted by Haselgrove yesterday.

The Courage is still being fixed and will be at races in 2006.
The problem has been with a shortage of some parts from suppliers
BK has been working with these suppliers to try and reduce the lead times.

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Wow that is bad. New suspension and body work are just the stuff you can see. Hope they did not hurt the Motor or trans.
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thats bad
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Ocuh. That'll leave a mark.
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RotaryNews.com reporting the team will make the final two rounds.

http://rotarynews.com/node/view/825

In addition to getting ready for these two final events of the season, B-K has been putting the finishing touches on all the details of their 2007 ALMS P2 campaign. Complete details of those plans will be announced in a separate release and special announcements in the coming weeks.
Anyone have any info on what the 2007 plans might be? Are they still looking at a new Lola? or something else? A new Radical or Courage?
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Supposedly they are going to run a new Lola chassis. While this hasn't been made official, many inside the ALMS have all but confirmed that the chassis is being built and has already been ordered.

They are also supposedly busy wasting their time trying to examine hydrogen as a viable alternative for fuel. If they aren't, they are thinking about it. They'd be better off using their time to pursue direct injection or some other useful alternative rather than a slower, heavier plan of action just for the sake of public relations.
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Originally Posted by simontemplar09
....... Anyone have any info on what the 2007 plans might be? Are they still looking at a new Lola? or something else? A new Radical or Courage?
They are solidifying plans at the moment, so we should hear very soon. We have a promise that as soon as they have them set, they'll let us know... and we'll let you all know ASAP!!!


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Originally Posted by rotarygod
....just for the sake of public relations.
Sometimes that (PR) is what racing is all about to an automaker.... and Mazda releasing the hydrogen RX-8, in limited #s, to Europe and Japan... this might just play right into some global strategy... I guess it is, what it is?


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Thanks Bern! we really apreciated
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I just found this
http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=2445
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
Funny it's the same press release as:

http://rotarynews.com/node/view/825

Also spoke to Dennis and he told me... in a small nutshell, that funding is the major hurdle and challenge for '07.

I would say that we shouldn't expect a major ALMS Rotary effort next season from Team Spencer.


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