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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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kabura video

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3238
enjoy, if that fanboy zoom hasnt posted this already
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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i think those front fenders would look good on the 8
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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not too shabby.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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They'd better not call it RX-7 if it gets to production unless it comes with a rotary.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Speculation is that a production Kabura will most likely be called RX-7, a legendary name that the Japanese manufacturer very much wants to bring back.
Umm...wtf? Didn't Mazda guarantee that it wouldn't have a rotary? And from what I've seen, Mazda hasn't shown or mentioned any desire to bring the rx7 back.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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i didnt even read the text, just watched the video, but whao i find that suprising my self.

it also says "Look for a full report on the Kabura ― plus a slew of other cool future machines from Japan ― in the cover story from the April 2006 issue of Road & Track." so this is a huge story, big enough to be their cover story. So i have a feeling this isnt just baseless speculation here, they must have heard it from some insider somewhere to make such a statement. i wouldnt loose any sleep over it though until mazda makes official announcements about it.

of course time will tell eventually, so lets be patient and wait.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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hmm.. IMO they do need to bring back the 7 to compete with the Supra, and I hope that they do, but if they bring this back as the 7, as much as I love the rotary, i'll buy the supra.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Umm...wtf? Didn't Mazda guarantee that it wouldn't have a rotary? And from what I've seen, Mazda hasn't shown or mentioned any desire to bring the rx7 back.
Mazda has said that they would consider putting a rotary in the Kabura if a ton of people recommended it to them using the 'contact us' feature on their website.

I personally think that the RX-7 rumor isn't true. Mazda has stated that it will be a ~$20k vehicle. They're going to **** off a ton of RX-7 owners who seem to only remember the FD in the RX-7 lineup and think of it as a pure sports car with tons o' power. I think the looks of the Kabura have given rise to the RX-7 comparisons. I haven't read anywhere that the Kabura is likely to have a rotary at all and I don't think they would call it an RX-7 without a rotary (that is what the R stands for).
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Saw it in Detroit - Kabura is based on MX-5 chassis / powertrain - so unlikely to be the new RX-7 - even if a rotary option is made avialable - ? 12B Renesis.

It is one sweet concept - hopefully along the lines of the RX-Evol. Would love to see pre-production car next year in Detroit followed by production in 2008.

Mazda appears to be looking to Gen-Y buyers looking for a entry level sports coupe under 20K.

Would definitely add this one to my stable for sure.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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They'd better not call it RX-7 if it gets to production unless it comes with a rotary.

It can't be an RX-anything unless it has a rotary.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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A nice turbo charged four with 230 hp is all it would really need. Reasonably fuel-efficient, light-weight should make it fairly fast. I would stretch it another 4 inches or so and go with a normal 2+2 configuration. Either that or scrap the back seats completely and gear the area for cargo. This would then compete with the Miata so perhaps not. Probably best to do a 2+2 with demi-doors like the 8 but smaller and keep it around 20k; affordable RWD pocket-rocket.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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[QUOTE=saturn]Mazda has said that they would consider putting a rotary in the Kabura if a ton of people recommended it to them using the 'contact us' feature on their website.QUOTE]


Would be great as a option - the Kabura R. Still not a RX-7.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd
A nice turbo charged four with 230 hp is all it would really need. Reasonably fuel-efficient, light-weight should make it fairly fast. I would stretch it another 4 inches or so and go with a normal 2+2 configuration. Either that or scrap the back seats completely and gear the area for cargo. This would then compete with the Miata so perhaps not. Probably best to do a 2+2 with demi-doors like the 8 but smaller and keep it around 20k; affordable RWD pocket-rocket.

Agree basically with powertrain - but still like the 3 plus 1 - remember the seat behing the driver is still a 'normal' small coupe back seat. The rear passenger bucket has extra room due to passenger front seat being pushed forward.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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WOW, IS IT SLICK. If only it came in a targa or ragtop I'd buy it.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Make it Mazda. The Miata powertrain would be awesome. Talk about awesome aftermarket support and the 3+1 ideas is brilliant.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8_GT
Agree basically with powertrain - but still like the 3 plus 1 - remember the seat behing the driver is still a 'normal' small coupe back seat. The rear passenger bucket has extra room due to passenger front seat being pushed forward.
Am I the only one who think the 3+1 thing makes no sense? If you push the passenger's seat up too far, you're not going to be able to see out that side. I know these cars aren't designed to be ultra-practical for 4 people riding and you can push a conventional passenger seat too far forward, but this idea is bordering on a dangerous option to give people.

I don't know. I'm never going to say, "sweet, the dude in the back on my sports car is slightly more comfortable!" The RX-8 idea seems better for any "+" configuration.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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I still doubt this car will be called a Kabura, it doesn't fit Mazda's recent nameplate system. Mazda 3, Mazda 5, Mazda 6, RX8, MX5, CX7. I think if anything it would be called an MX3.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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It can't be an RX-anything unless it has a rotary.
Sure it could.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Sure it could.
Remember the time they had a rotary in the Kabura, and you lied to me and said it never had a rotary? Then why did it have the 'R', BlueEyes? Why did it have the 'R'?

Haha, hmmm....just a bad Simpson's reference. Go banana!
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Sure it could.

It could.....but it defeats the purpose the of the 'R' in 'RX' which according to Mazda means "Rotary Sport". How can a vehicle be called a Rotary Sport 7 and not have a rotary motor?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Talk it up - Mazda may be listening !!!
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
if that fanboy zoom hasnt posted this already
you know i was going to argue that but i really can't

Originally Posted by RX8_GT
Saw it in Detroit - Kabura is based on MX-5 chassis / powertrain - so unlikely to be the new RX-7 - .

MX-5 is a shortened RX-8 chasis. Kabura is on a shortened rx-8 chasis just not as short as the MX-5. This car was designed with a Rotary in front and changed later.

It wont come with a 2.0. itll come with a DISI 2.3 with the turbo as an option as the MX-3 and the possibility that the Renesis will be in it as an RX-3 is still quite alive.

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I still doubt this car will be called a Kabura, .
the production cars are never named the same as the concept
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
the production cars are never named the same as the concept

What was the RX8 called as a concept? Really, I'm not being a smart ***, I honestly have no idea.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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1999 RX-Evolv. generally just called Evolv

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/...lv-concept.php




I told my wife (fiance' at the time) and just about anyone else "If they build that im buying one!"

and here i am
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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^ WOW!!! That thing is ugly IMO. I'm glad they decided to change the design as the RX8 is a much sexier car.

Thanks for posting that Zoom.
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