Jeremy Clarkson likes the BMW 135i so now you do too!
04-10-2008, 09:53 AM
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You should drive it just for the experience of driving it.
I'm currently deciding what to do about delivery, IE, European Delivery (pick it up in Munich, head to the nurburgring and run a few laps, then drive it to the port) or BMW Performance Center Delivery in South Carolina and drive it back to TX. The fact that BMW even has these options for all of their vehicles really tells you something about how they feel about their cars. If that's not passion, I don't know what is.
I'm currently deciding what to do about delivery, IE, European Delivery (pick it up in Munich, head to the nurburgring and run a few laps, then drive it to the port) or BMW Performance Center Delivery in South Carolina and drive it back to TX. The fact that BMW even has these options for all of their vehicles really tells you something about how they feel about their cars. If that's not passion, I don't know what is.
04-10-2008, 11:06 AM
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It's called the M3 CSL. Look it up.
Personally, I like Jezza because he does not give a damn what you think. He's a man of his own world. That, and he has great passion for vehicles and the engineering that goes behind them.
I do agree with him on a lot of things, especially on the issue of soul and passion in engineering. I hate the Corolla. I hate the Civic. I hate most cars I see on the streets. I hate them because they were designed and built like a fridge.
When JC bangs on about a lack of soul, I can definitely see what he's talking about (being a little artist myself). The vehicles were designed with the inspiration of a toaster! I come from a family that owns nearly exclusively Toyotas. It was 100% Toyotas until my dad came home one day with a Volvo XC90.
I hate my parent's Toyotas. All of them inspired little more than a desire to mutilate myself. All of them had the lines drawn by a moron.
JC has a point. It's up to you to filter out what's total sarcasm, and what he's serious about.
Personally, I like Jezza because he does not give a damn what you think. He's a man of his own world. That, and he has great passion for vehicles and the engineering that goes behind them.
I do agree with him on a lot of things, especially on the issue of soul and passion in engineering. I hate the Corolla. I hate the Civic. I hate most cars I see on the streets. I hate them because they were designed and built like a fridge.
When JC bangs on about a lack of soul, I can definitely see what he's talking about (being a little artist myself). The vehicles were designed with the inspiration of a toaster! I come from a family that owns nearly exclusively Toyotas. It was 100% Toyotas until my dad came home one day with a Volvo XC90.
I hate my parent's Toyotas. All of them inspired little more than a desire to mutilate myself. All of them had the lines drawn by a moron.
JC has a point. It's up to you to filter out what's total sarcasm, and what he's serious about.
There's nothing wrong with soul or passion or uniqueness, but if you praise it while bashing practicality and utilitarianism and purpose then you are just an elitist snob. Everything in life is relative. Even if every car designer poured tears, sweat, blood, and heart into their designs you would still end up with a lot of cars that looked the same. The most unique and most special would be regarded as the king.
I like the RX-8 because it's unique. But if I ever liked myself more because I owned a more unique car then I'd be quite a sad little person. Jeremy Clarkson is fun to watch and definitely provides some insight that you don't get from most automotive sources. However, he has some very explosive biases that keep him from being fair in many, many cases. I suppose this makes him a better entertainer, but most certainly not a better reporter of cars.
I still stand by my initial assessment. Too many people are influenced too heavily by what he says and end up as blind fanatics of this or that.
04-10-2008, 02:41 PM
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There's nothing wrong with soul or passion or uniqueness, but if you praise it while bashing practicality and utilitarianism and purpose then you are just an elitist snob. Everything in life is relative. Even if every car designer poured tears, sweat, blood, and heart into their designs you would still end up with a lot of cars that looked the same. The most unique and most special would be regarded as the king.
I like the RX-8 because it's unique. But if I ever liked myself more because I owned a more unique car then I'd be quite a sad little person. Jeremy Clarkson is fun to watch and definitely provides some insight that you don't get from most automotive sources. However, he has some very explosive biases that keep him from being fair in many, many cases. I suppose this makes him a better entertainer, but most certainly not a better reporter of cars.
I still stand by my initial assessment. Too many people are influenced too heavily by what he says and end up as blind fanatics of this or that.
I still stand by my initial assessment. Too many people are influenced too heavily by what he says and end up as blind fanatics of this or that.
Jezza may not always be fair (he did pwn the Cadillac CTS-V for something vague), but like I said, it's up to you to filter out the sarcasm from the point he's trying to make. He likes passion in engineering. If you build your car like you'd build a fridge, prepare to get Jezzas disapproval.
04-10-2008, 08:40 PM
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You do realize the man drives a Ford Focus (or at least did), right? It's fun to spin cars around a track or through the backroads of England, but at the end of the day we're all trying to find a car to live with everyday. He's more entertaining than he is informative. I can find out much more useful information about the real livability and personality of a car by reading posts from people who actually own the car. I can learn how it feels to me by test driving it.
Anyways, nothing really more to say. I'll keep watching and keep pointing out when I think people are saying dangerous biased information. I think it's good when we all help do that.
Anyways, nothing really more to say. I'll keep watching and keep pointing out when I think people are saying dangerous biased information. I think it's good when we all help do that.
04-14-2008, 12:55 PM
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Think my wife banned me from test driving any car until mine is paid off.
I know if I drove the 135 I'd want one really bad. Selling a 1 1/2 yr old RX8 would not work wonders for my bank account.
I know if I drove the 135 I'd want one really bad. Selling a 1 1/2 yr old RX8 would not work wonders for my bank account.
04-20-2008, 02:03 AM
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God, is that faux carbon fiber strip across the dash retarded. It looks like it was ripped directly out of a Passat. Very tacky.
Oh, and contender for ugliest *** ever.
I still like the car, but BMW has some really hideous designs, and this does not help their law of averages on that mark.
Oh, and contender for ugliest *** ever.
I still like the car, but BMW has some really hideous designs, and this does not help their law of averages on that mark.
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