JDM Mazda Demio SKYACTIV pre-orders started
#1
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JDM Mazda Demio SKYACTIV pre-orders started
Pre-Orders Start for Facelifted Mazda Demio in Japan
- SKYACTIV-G 1.3 engine delivers driving pleasure at outstanding 30.0km/L fuel economy -
HIROSHIMA, Japan—Mazda Motor Corporation has updated its mainstay Demio compact car for the Japanese market. Mazda began taking pre-orders today for the facelifted Mazda Demio (known overseas as the Mazda2) at all Mazda, Mazda Anfini and Mazda Autozam dealers throughout Japan. Manufacturer's suggested retail prices (including taxes) range from 1,149,000 yen to 1,621,750 yen. The sales launch is scheduled for June 30, 2011.
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/relea...tml?link_id=nr
japanese site
http://www.demio.mazda.co.jp/pre/?link_id=rc
i'll post in this topic the tests of japanese magazine (next month maybe) especially for fuel consumption into real world, this will be interesting....
- SKYACTIV-G 1.3 engine delivers driving pleasure at outstanding 30.0km/L fuel economy -
HIROSHIMA, Japan—Mazda Motor Corporation has updated its mainstay Demio compact car for the Japanese market. Mazda began taking pre-orders today for the facelifted Mazda Demio (known overseas as the Mazda2) at all Mazda, Mazda Anfini and Mazda Autozam dealers throughout Japan. Manufacturer's suggested retail prices (including taxes) range from 1,149,000 yen to 1,621,750 yen. The sales launch is scheduled for June 30, 2011.
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/relea...tml?link_id=nr
japanese site
http://www.demio.mazda.co.jp/pre/?link_id=rc
i'll post in this topic the tests of japanese magazine (next month maybe) especially for fuel consumption into real world, this will be interesting....
#2
Out of NYC
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Well yea, when they gonna have it in US ?
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
Last edited by nycgps; 06-09-2011 at 07:17 AM.
#3
Wiseguy
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Well yea, when they gonna have it in US ?
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
if you want a skyactiv mazda you better bet on CX-5, next spring is worldwide available, if Mazda respect the deadlines...for Demio skyactiv the deadline (6 months ago) was first half of 2011..
the current deadlines for CX-5 are Frankfurt for world launch and first 3 months of 2012 for availabilty for customers....
#4
Well yea, when they gonna have it in US ?
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
I am in the middle of some decision, I can either trade my Mazda3 for something else or just get my father's CX-7 and give him my Mazda3.
I want to actually trade the Mazda3 in for a CX5/7/9. but there is no reason to get the current model when you know that the SkyActiv version will be here in a few months. but I kinda need a big car right now ... Ahhh
notice the Japanese price, the SkyActiv preorder actually cost less than the current model
1,149,000(skyActiv) vs 1,199,999(current model)
Big car? I don't know what to suggest. CX-9 drives like a dream but I know you are not that fond of Ford. When you drive it you know it's a built in Japan machine though.
Paul.
#5
Out of NYC
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Unless you can afford both, I would also suggest waiting for the CX-5. It's not that large of a vehicle but it is going to be so full of cool technology .
Big car? I don't know what to suggest. CX-9 drives like a dream but I know you are not that fond of Ford. When you drive it you know it's a built in Japan machine though.
Paul.
Big car? I don't know what to suggest. CX-9 drives like a dream but I know you are not that fond of Ford. When you drive it you know it's a built in Japan machine though.
Paul.
and from the inside pics it looks like it can only seat 4 ... like the Rx-8. who knows.
I know CX-9 is made in build in Japan but ... if I buy it now, SkyActiv comes out couple monoths or a year later. I'm gonna feel super stupid and slap myself everyday.
damn I hate moments like this. I need to get something that I don't want to get it yet ... but it seems like I have to get it now grrrRRRRrrr
Last edited by nycgps; 06-10-2011 at 08:10 AM.
#7
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Oh man those pics are SWEEEEET ! thx Matt !
Right, almost forgot about the i-stop feature. hmm, is it gonna come to the US? last I recall it should be an 800 dollar option. but EPA does not want to change their test method to include the amount of fuel it can save. It should be something really cool for city drivers like me.
I'm all for it and 800 bux is non-issue, but most people in the states have no idea what it is and they probably won't get it.
Right, almost forgot about the i-stop feature. hmm, is it gonna come to the US? last I recall it should be an 800 dollar option. but EPA does not want to change their test method to include the amount of fuel it can save. It should be something really cool for city drivers like me.
I'm all for it and 800 bux is non-issue, but most people in the states have no idea what it is and they probably won't get it.
#9
Matt posted this following information in another thread:
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
#10
Out of NYC
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Matt posted this following information in another thread:
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
Let's see if it's less, take a 10% "hit" from that number, still gonna get 50 something and it's not a hybrid ... Will people here believe Mazda I wonder.
Now it seems like Mazda "suppressed" Toyota in Engine technology ... ?
#11
Wiseguy
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Matt posted this following information in another thread:
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
"Speaking of Mazda 2 (Demio) and SKYACTIV..
This IS the First Mazda to use new Engine and Trans...
This 1.3 litre WILL get 63 MPG, taken from Japan's all new Economy Cycle regs (very similar to USA)."
Matt, if they can give us more than 50 mpg in the US, I smell a winner.
Paul.
some toughts:
1) this Demio will NOT have the special,patented "4-2-1 exhaust manifold" because there is no room for it in current Demio, it have a simpler manifold. i'm thinking that the maximum power and max rpm are limited due this "issue"
2) at this time there is ONLY a CVT skyactiv Demio, not MT...i'm waiting for a MT car
3)for US market i will expect an AT (not CVT) car
for sure those engines are IMPRESSIVE, can't wait for a test drive (cx-5, i suppose)
final consideration: the company is FULLY involved for this skyactiv launch (see into 787 topic the badge on the orange jackets of the people present at leMans for the 787 parade )
this SKYACTIV thing is very, very ,very important for Mazda.......
#12
Out of NYC
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yep, very important.
I think they did it because of the same reason they bought NSU license ---- they want to be unique/different.
At least I'm sure I'm gonna go get one when it's out
I just hope that it will come with i-stop ... it's a pretty important feature for city driving.
I think they did it because of the same reason they bought NSU license ---- they want to be unique/different.
At least I'm sure I'm gonna go get one when it's out
I just hope that it will come with i-stop ... it's a pretty important feature for city driving.
#13
Wiseguy
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first road impressions from Japanese magazines/websites...
http://gazoo.com/NewCar/VehicleInfo/...398b3&pageNo=0
the test was conducted at well-known Hakone mountains roads, the car-journalist have used the "intelligent drive master" (i-DM) for minimize fuel consumption.
the result is a fantastic 23,7 km/litre, very well,considered the mountain course....
a lot of torque at low rpms is cited...the engine is often into 1000-1500 rpms also in not plane course.....
i-stop it was used not many times ,due a very hot day and in such condition the computer will disable i-stop to keep air-con on....
http://gazoo.com/NewCar/VehicleInfo/...398b3&pageNo=0
the test was conducted at well-known Hakone mountains roads, the car-journalist have used the "intelligent drive master" (i-DM) for minimize fuel consumption.
the result is a fantastic 23,7 km/litre, very well,considered the mountain course....
a lot of torque at low rpms is cited...the engine is often into 1000-1500 rpms also in not plane course.....
i-stop it was used not many times ,due a very hot day and in such condition the computer will disable i-stop to keep air-con on....
#15
Wiseguy
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another test conducted from Sendai to Tokyo, around Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures for well-known reasons the course make a detour to a mountain course...
total lenght 400 km, expressway, city and mountain detour
27,1 km/litre
http://response.jp/article/2011/08/02/160328.html
total lenght 400 km, expressway, city and mountain detour
27,1 km/litre
http://response.jp/article/2011/08/02/160328.html
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Wiseguy
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fantastic.....
new Cx-5 diesel is preliminary measured @ less than 120 g/Co2 (MT, standard power, 2WD)
for comparo:
annonuced -for september- BMW x1 s20d efficient dynamics (active aero , regenerative braking, start/stop, 2WD, special green tyres, 163 hp) is officially rated @ 119 g/Co2.
fuel consumption is strictly related to Co2 figures......
new Cx-5 diesel is preliminary measured @ less than 120 g/Co2 (MT, standard power, 2WD)
for comparo:
annonuced -for september- BMW x1 s20d efficient dynamics (active aero , regenerative braking, start/stop, 2WD, special green tyres, 163 hp) is officially rated @ 119 g/Co2.
fuel consumption is strictly related to Co2 figures......
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See JDM Mazda Demio (Mazda 2) SkyActiv 1.3 first month orders were DOUBLED what MMC forecast !!..
Their allocated target was initially 6000 units, but actual came in at 13,500!!!!...in it's first month!!..
That is AMAZING!!
So it looks like the news is out...Mazda may in time have some supply problems with these engines... Particularly now Ford has no parts supply input.
No wonder they are slowing rolling them out as a Skyactiv model option....like the first export SA engine will be in the Mazda 3 here, and MA calling it the SP20, for the 2.0 litre SA.
Their allocated target was initially 6000 units, but actual came in at 13,500!!!!...in it's first month!!..
That is AMAZING!!
So it looks like the news is out...Mazda may in time have some supply problems with these engines... Particularly now Ford has no parts supply input.
No wonder they are slowing rolling them out as a Skyactiv model option....like the first export SA engine will be in the Mazda 3 here, and MA calling it the SP20, for the 2.0 litre SA.
#24
See JDM Mazda Demio (Mazda 2) SkyActiv 1.3 first month orders were DOUBLED what MMC forecast !!..
Their allocated target was initially 6000 units, but actual came in at 13,500!!!!...in it's first month!!..
That is AMAZING!!
So it looks like the news is out...Mazda may in time have some supply problems with these engines... Particularly now Ford has no parts supply input.
No wonder they are slowing rolling them out as a Skyactiv model option....like the first export SA engine will be in the Mazda 3 here, and MA calling it the SP20, for the 2.0 litre SA.
Their allocated target was initially 6000 units, but actual came in at 13,500!!!!...in it's first month!!..
That is AMAZING!!
So it looks like the news is out...Mazda may in time have some supply problems with these engines... Particularly now Ford has no parts supply input.
No wonder they are slowing rolling them out as a Skyactiv model option....like the first export SA engine will be in the Mazda 3 here, and MA calling it the SP20, for the 2.0 litre SA.
I wish I could have held out for the Mazda2 variant to hit the states. It would be great to see Mazda get a serious boost from these sales and then maybe, just maybe, keep the RX going!