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iTrader: (9)

not true the rotary started life in the cosmo and there was a pick up truck too but i can tremember the name.

RIWWP

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There are two different theories for whether it would be a "7" or a "9"

"9" theory reasons:
1) It could be a "9", simply because of the increasing numeric number of the major designs that the RX line has generally been following in the past
or 2) to keep the "7" always meaning the FB, FC, and FD, which is a huge part of Mazda's history

"7" theory reasons:
1) Mazda's current numeric model system is based on vehicle size, with 2 being the smallest, 9 being the largest. A car that is smaller than the 8 could be anything numerically lower, with "7" being favored. Making it an "RX-6" or "RX-5" are entirely viable as well, since that is closer to the size of the MX-5 (which general theory and agreement is that it will be based on that platform, although the next one sounds like it would be closer in size to a "2")
or 2) Going back to a small rotary sports car will always make people think of the RX-7, so using the "7" name will be a return of that car, if it's fitting enough.



The reality is, we have no idea what Mazda will name it. It might not even be numeric (but probably will)

gwilliams6

Mazda wont reuse the RX9 since it has been used before on a rotary sedan (see above). Mazda will want to and need to evoke the spirit and popularity and fame of the RX7. As a fourth generation RX7 this car would immediately have credibility and spark excitement among the automotive press and longtime rotary advocates. This car will just sell better as an RX7 and not an RX9. I have owned all three generations of RX7 and would buy the fourth generation in a heartbeat. Also remember this car will be set to compete with the New Nissan Z and the New Toyota sports car, so an RX7 nameplate is a natural, harking back to the legendary rivalry between the early Z, RX7, and Toyota Supra.

RIWWP

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Whatever the number is, it will probably be chassis code "FF"...



Go ahead, start the jokes now, they won't ever stop.

200.mph

iTrader: (9)

really? wow

alnielsen

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I don't think the fact that there was a previous RX9 precludes Mazda from naming a future model as one. The name wouldn't have been used in almost 40 yrs since Mazda previously used it. And, other manufactures resurrect names that haven't been used in decades for cars in other size classes.

RIWWP

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I'm personally a fan of calling it an RX-5 or RX-6, assuming it's small enough to justify, assuming it is actually going to happen.

niteshade247

Cool some new info I didn't know although I had herd once about a rotary powered truck. Thanks I now under stand the numerical system of the RX line. What ever happens ide be up to buy anther rotary powered car.

alnielsen

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It was called the RPU for Rotary PickUp
I had a boss that had one, but at the time it had no significance to me.

gwilliams6

There may still be a rotary pickup somewhere in the NJ area, it came to one of our NJ/Del/Pa/Md meets a couple of years ago. I remember a few of them on the street decades ago. The cosmos was originally a two seat sports car and a later cosmos was a coupe even once with w/ a turbo 12A engine. The even later Eunos Cosmos was a three rotor twin-turbo that produced 300hp and 300ftpounds of torque (Japan only). The R100, the RX2, RX3, RX4 were all sedans and/or coupes. Whatever Mazda calls the next rotary, it just needs to perform, be reliable and get better fuel economy. If it does all that it will sell, if not it will be a dud. I don't expect Mazda to spend the money and come out with a dud. You can trace the whole Mazda rotary engine history and cars and years in link below.

Cheers and lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Wankel_engine

reddozen

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Fixed...

Called the "re-poo" typically
But yea. There weren't very many of them made really. My cousin has one he bought brand new in 77'. We have several of them here in the Middle Tennessee area surprisingly.

alnielsen

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Yes, I've seen it both ways.

tbeam

I have faith in the rotary. If its a renovated rx-7 you cant tell me previous rotary owners, owners, and non owners wont want to get their hands on it. Its a sports car and those are made for the most part about fun. And the rotary sure as hell is a fun engine. Kind of reminds me of 2 stroke and 4 stroke debates with dirtbikes, and actually 2 stroke bikes and rotary engine cars are similar in alot of ways. As of now however ive got an rx8 in my garage with 4k miles on it and am going to drive it til it drops. It would be awesome to see a new rotary car out by the time that happens.
EDIT: 2 smokers were supposed to be gone by 2010 or something but its 2014 now and im lookin to buy a new one next season.

zoom44

i tend to say it as rapeyou

gendry

I would be pretty disappointed if the new rotary has 250hp as the max offering in the generation. The level of performance should be higher.

carcrazy95

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is a repost, but in case you haven't seen it yet, this week's issue of AutoWeek has (another) story about the next coming of the RX-7:

New Mazda RX-7 design, styling and on sale dates - Autoweek

We all know how much these rumors can be counted on, and we've all seen Mazda's "official" comments that they can't make a business case for another rotary engine. But, like buying a lottery ticket, its something to keep our hopes up.

RIWWP

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merged to existing thread

thunderberk

I wish they are going to put it a supercharger 16x 400-500hp powerful pure sports car

RIWWP

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No thanks. I'd like to be able to buy it. I won't be pleased with a rotary return that is priced out of my reach.

Mazda hasn't pursued the power game anyway and I don't see that changing any time soon.

thunderberk

Supra & Nsx shows their faces if Mazda needs POWER 300 hp isnt enough for RX-7 yes if it will be enough near 1000-1100 kgs. But that sale stragety is like a gamble you need power when you have big rivals. 90's they also limited nearly 280 hp limit with force induction now that limit near 400-500 now gtr35 550 hp near 1700 kgs..

RIWWP

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I disagree with your entire premise that more power automatically makes the car better.

I disagree that it needs to "compete" with any of those cars.

I disagree that adding more power will make it sell better.

I'm confident that Mazda will ignore what you consider to be "required"

alnielsen

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I agree with all these points. Needing to "compete" with those other cars is old RX7 mentality. The RX7 couldn't hang with a Supra anyway (stock for stock or modified for modified).

9krpmrx8

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Yep, if anything the FD was less capable than the Supra TT, 300ZXTT, and 3000GTVR-4/Stealth R/T TT.

thunderberk

So Mazda will be build next RX you guys call it maybe RX7 or RX5 whatever you call it. What is this pure sports car compete with ? BRZ or GT86, 370z ?

90's legendary sports cars must be compete together why Mazda plays behind them i don't understand if they put 300 hp sports car then supra & nsx will give respect about their power figures now gtr35 showing us its potential.

If Mazda produce a sports car like s2000 and if it will be 300hp it is not enough both 50th anniversary or RX-7 brandname.

RIWWP

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Mazda doesn't pursue power numbers because Mazda understands that power isn't everything.

Look at the FR-S/BRZ/FT-86. It's horrifically underpowered according to people like you, but it was responsible for a sales increase for the entire Scion brand of about 30% (if i recall correctly). It is still hugely popular, contrary to what people like you would think.


You don't need lots of power to have a fun car, and having lots of power makes the car more expensive than "common people" can afford. Affordable fun will generate far more sales than a 5 minute masturbation over a magazine article ever will.

Who exactly will care if it doesn't compete with huge power cars? People that are more interested in stroking their ego than just getting out and enjoying what they have. I only look for a smile in the car I drive, who cares if there are other cars faster out there? Not me.

If you will be disappointed by only 300hp from an RX-7, then I guess you will go buy something else with more power...or sit crying over cars that have the power you want but can't afford. Plenty of the rest of us will be smiling, not crying.