IS350 C&D stats
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IS350 C&D stats
in the C&D $35K sedans comparo
IS350 0-60 = 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile = 13.7 seconds
we are talking M3 territory acceleration here or very close. Im pretty impressed with this 6 spd automatic only sedan.
IS350 0-60 = 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile = 13.7 seconds
we are talking M3 territory acceleration here or very close. Im pretty impressed with this 6 spd automatic only sedan.
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I think 5.1 is a little optimistic, and its a totally different car than the M3. Apples to oranges.
Im a Lexus fan and like it a lot, but you really cant compare em. Faster than a new 330i? I think so.
Im a Lexus fan and like it a lot, but you really cant compare em. Faster than a new 330i? I think so.
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Originally Posted by SubaruFlamingo
I think 5.1 is a little optimistic, and its a totally different car than the M3. Apples to oranges.
Im a Lexus fan and like it a lot, but you really cant compare em. Faster than a new 330i? I think so.
Im a Lexus fan and like it a lot, but you really cant compare em. Faster than a new 330i? I think so.
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so no 6sp stick only auto?
Most of BMW lure is brand image brainwashing. I haven't seen the article but I won't be surprised if it accelerates, handles and brakes with the M3. I am sure it will beat BMW in the reliability category
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IS350 does not handle or brake with the M3, according to all the reviews and impressions out so far from various publications the electronic nannying cannot be turned off. resulting in very unsporty handling. in otherwords, it still handles and drives like a typical lexus, not a bmw.
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C&D usually gets the highest numbers cuz they rag the hell out of the car to get them. Don't get me wrong, those are still impressive, but I would focus on the 5-60 number they list as a better indication of what you could get with a street start that won't destroy your tranny.
I wonder how high they brake torqued to launch for those numbers.
I wonder how high they brake torqued to launch for those numbers.
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
I agree, but those numbers are still very impressive even under those circumstances
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
yes its the newest issue, and no they didnt mention anything about it being a pre production model.
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hey dudes, yeah i'm really interested in seeing this is350, may take'er for a test drive...those are some pretty impressive numbers, also read that the 306 hp that lexus is quoting is using the SAE HP measurement system which is a definite plus when you see that a lot of companies like acura who sold their TL model as a 270 hp beast, are now tucking their tails between their legs....
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IS350 does not handle or brake with the M3, according to all the reviews and impressions out so far from various publications the electronic nannying cannot be turned off. resulting in very unsporty handling. in otherwords, it still handles and drives like a typical lexus, not a bmw.
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these are all sedans obviously,
8th place Saab 9-3 Aero Manual
7th place Volvo S60R AWD Manual
6th place Cadillac CTS Manual
5th place Audi A4 3.2 Quattro Auto
4th place Acura TL Manual
3rd place Infiniti G35 Manual
2nd Place Lexus IS350 Auto
1st Place BMW 330i Sport Manual no active steering
8th place Saab 9-3 Aero Manual
7th place Volvo S60R AWD Manual
6th place Cadillac CTS Manual
5th place Audi A4 3.2 Quattro Auto
4th place Acura TL Manual
3rd place Infiniti G35 Manual
2nd Place Lexus IS350 Auto
1st Place BMW 330i Sport Manual no active steering
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personally its nice to see the 3 japanese companies right on bmw's tail. if not for the unsporty handling and lack of the IS350 and the lack of 6mt it would have won 1st place based on the interior, power and many other attributes. BMW has got some serious compeitition now, its going to be interesting when the new redisigned G35 comes out in 2007 with the next tune of the vq35 engine.
i dont know if the hp rating of the is350 is based on the new SAE ratings. I do know that the 280hp avalon with the same engine lost about 20hp under the new SAE ratings.
i dont know if the hp rating of the is350 is based on the new SAE ratings. I do know that the 280hp avalon with the same engine lost about 20hp under the new SAE ratings.
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I sold my IS300 to buy the RX-8. I'm sure the new IS handles better, is faster, etc, etc, etc. But Lexus can't get around the fact that its still a sedan. Lexus builds excellent cars for people that like to be driven. Mazda builds cars for people that like to drive. No matter how fast it goes a sedan is NOT a light weight zoom-zoom sports car like the RX-8. I can promise that there is NO CHANCE I'll ever trade my RX for an IS!
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Im actually curious, if this is a 35K comparo, how they got the IS350, and the 330i under 35K. Was at BOTH dealerships recently, and BASE price for both is higher than 35K. (330 and is350, i know the 325i, and is250 have lower base prices)
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that is correct, the base price for a 330i is 36,600 and the one in the story has sport packadge, which should end up around 38,000. the IS350's costs is up there too, im not sure exctly what the price limit is
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
personally its nice to see the 3 japanese companies right on bmw's tail. if not for the unsporty handling and lack of the IS350 and the lack of 6mt it would have won 1st place based on the interior, power and many other attributes. BMW has got some serious compeitition now, its going to be interesting when the new redisigned G35 comes out in 2007 with the next tune of the vq35 engine.
i dont know if the hp rating of the is350 is based on the new SAE ratings. I do know that the 280hp avalon with the same engine lost about 20hp under the new SAE ratings.
i dont know if the hp rating of the is350 is based on the new SAE ratings. I do know that the 280hp avalon with the same engine lost about 20hp under the new SAE ratings.
the is350's stated 306HP, according to car and driver.com tech "chat", is based on the new SAE. they have a weekly chat on a car, and their techs answer questions readers submit.
the big ???? for me is price. For me, the IS350 needs to be cheaper than the 330 to make it a winner given its difference in handling and performance feel. There's no doubt its a sweet looking ride, and has great numbers. Im just curious how muchy
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yeah the new SAE ratings would sort of explain the great stats it got.
according to a previous impression on C&D, 0-60 was 5.9 seconds. hand timed
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
lexus' site says 5.6
http://thenewis.com/index.html
autoweek said the IS350 starts at 35k. about 1000 bucks lower than 330i
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102879
according to a previous impression on C&D, 0-60 was 5.9 seconds. hand timed
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
lexus' site says 5.6
http://thenewis.com/index.html
autoweek said the IS350 starts at 35k. about 1000 bucks lower than 330i
http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102879
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Well the Volvo S60R in the comparo came in at a as tested price of $47K so I dont think the price was that big of a deal, even though it is called the $35K comparo . . . Anyway, from reading the article the Lexus should have won, it was better in every category (as was the G35) except the famous Gotta Have It and Fun To Drive sections (which are both subjective) where the BMW scores just enough points to beat the IS350 by 1 point. What is even more interesting is that the IS350 was faster, handled better, had far less problems, was more comfortable and quieter than the 3. The three had a bigger back seat, the ABS broke, Airbag light came on, AC barely worked and it still won . . . do these guy get kickback from BMW or something? In the same issues the pontiac solstice beats out the new MX-5 also, even though the mazda wins everything except styling . . .
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