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Old 04-29-2004, 06:29 AM
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Honda S2000 has cold shutoff procedure

I learned yesterday that Honda recently issued an advisory to dealers to instruct customers to avoid cold shutoffs of the S2000.

Once the car is started the car should be warmed up until the temperature gauge is at least a certain number of ticks into the operating range before shutting down.

The car has apparently not flooded like the 8, but the plugs have fouled and many warranty claims have been filed.

Looks like we are not the only ones, but at least we have a fix now with the M flash.

Wonder if Honda will develop a reflash.
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I own an S2000, well.. I've had 2 of them actually, an '00 and an '02... and I've shut it off cold hundreds of times (from moving it out of the garage to wash, then back in to wax, etc..)

Neither S2000 has EVVVVVER flooded, let alone had the plugs foul.

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Is this just for cars with the new engine (isn't it a 2.2 now?).

I've heard that some people in Europe have had flooding problems with some new Audi's. Apparently the new emissions regulations are to blame. Latest US emissions regulations are pretty strict also of course.
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Re: Honda S2000 has cold shutoff procedure

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[B]I learned yesterday that Honda recently issued an advisory to dealers to instruct customers to avoid cold shutoffs of the S2000.
...and your reliable source is...?

I did a search for keywords "flooding" or "flood" on the s2k forum board and all I come up with are topics related to water, rain, cai, and the rx8.
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Re: Re: Honda S2000 has cold shutoff procedure

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...and your reliable source is...?

I did a search for keywords "flooding" or "flood" on the s2k forum board and all I come up with are topics related to water, rain, cai, and the rx8.
Read his entire post. It states that the cold start warning is NOT due to flooding, but rather spark plug fouling.
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s 2000 flooding? never heard of that. maybe that tsb went out to prevent another issue?
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Piston engines are not as prone to "flooding" as rotaries. Plus when a piton engine does flood you still have a decent chance of starting it the regular way, unlike a rotary.

Flooding is just a fact of live when you drive a RX.
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Even my Cavalier warns about flooding in the owner's manual but let's be realistic.

Have you ever flooded a piston engine? When was the last time that someone you know flooded a piston engine?

The rotary is more prone to flooding.
(And besides, you shouldn't have to bring up flooding to attack the S2000. Have you actually seen one? UGLY!)
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Never said it flooded. The bulletin sent to dealers was about fouling and apparently only concerns newer S2000's.
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Originally posted by bowman

(And besides, you shouldn't have to bring up flooding to attack the S2000. Have you actually seen one? UGLY!)
I rather have a slick good-looking car than a bubbly with a front and rear copy-cat. And a car that doesn't have fudge up hp (ie SLOW!), flooding problems, coolant leak, horrible gas mileage, etc., etc., etc

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Originally posted by bowman
The rotary is more prone to flooding.
(And besides, you shouldn't have to bring up flooding to attack the S2000. Have you actually seen one? UGLY!)
UGLY!!?? Are you serious? What exactly makes the S2000 ugly? I hope that your answer is not that it's design is not radical enough like the 8/Z, because I think that's what makes it so beautiful. Honestly, I think the S will age better than any of the Japanese sports cars on the market right now. Kind of like the miata.
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I like the s2000's looks
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Originally posted by Seks
I rather have a slick good-looking car than a bubbly with a front and rear copy-cat. And a car that doesn't have fudge up hp (ie SLOW!), flooding problems, coolant leak, horrible gas mileage, etc., etc., etc
I don't think the s2k is bad looking at all, but to beat a dead horse again by bringing up this bs is just tiresome. I haven't had any of the problems you describe and neither have a lot of the owners on here. The 8 has plenty of hp for me and how can you call it horrible gas mileage? Sure it's lower than some, but then again, a lot of the people that bought them knew about the gas mileage before buying it.
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Originally posted by bowman
Even my Cavalier warns about flooding in the owner's manual but let's be realistic.

Have you ever flooded a piston engine? When was the last time that someone you know flooded a piston engine?
Actually, happend twice to me with my 2000 Civic Si. Once when I stalled upon starting after I was away for a week, and once when i moved it up in the driveway a few feet. Both times it eventually started after much cranking, with alot of balck exhaust for a while. I never really thought much of it until I started reading this board.
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It's funny to see how amartin misread the post and nobody bothered to read it afterwards before the flaming started.

Reading. It does the mind good.
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Originally posted by bowman
Even my Cavalier warns about flooding in the owner's manual but let's be realistic.

Have you ever flooded a piston engine? When was the last time that someone you know flooded a piston engine?

The rotary is more prone to flooding.
(And besides, you shouldn't have to bring up flooding to attack the S2000. Have you actually seen one? UGLY!)
During my ownership of a V6 Audi A4 Quattro, I've experienced three occasions where the engine only started on 3, 4 or 5 cylinders after mucho cranking and black smoke. Always after I switched off the engine from cold, which should always be avoided, rotary or not...

Edit : Oh by the way, I like the S2000 too.
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Originally posted by IKnowNot'ing
During my ownership of a V6 Audi A4 Quattro, I've experienced three occasions where the engine only started on 3, 4 or 5 cylinders after mucho cranking and black smoke. Always after I switched off the engine from cold, which should always be avoided, rotary or not...
I have heard similar things about certain Audis as well.

Its not just a rotary thing!
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