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hahaha...amen brother

Ike

Ok now you can show me where I tell RX-8 owners what their car is all about. I don't need to own the car to know it's slower than an SRT-4... I correct people on other cars because I know a fair amount about cars and am correcting misconceptions. I like these forums but I don't like BS.

The SRT-4 is an impressive car for what it's intended for and for the price and I respect that. I defend it on WRX and other forums I particpate in just like I do here. I don't see how what I'm doing is trolling when I'm simply providing factual info to refute some of the BS people post.

zoom44

you dont have to own the car to be a member. i resent any thinking to the contrary. Ike has been here for a long time because he is/was interested in the car and likes the community (for the most part). he is very knowledgeable about other cars and brings a fresh perspective to these little arguements. i have also seen him defend the rx8 against real trolls(well once or twice really) with the knowledge he has gleaned about our beloved 8. he keeps people from spreading misinformation and our heads from swelling too much from the pride in our cars. what part of what he said was incorrect. dont attack him for pointing out incorrect information. also i dont care what would happen on car forum X. this the RX8club and we actually allow disenting opinions offered in a decent manner.

Shamblerock

The big benefit with having Ike participate on this site is that if you can convince him of something, you can then ntake your argument to anyone and convince them!

Ike, keep up this high level of participation on this site and you will leave us no choice but to all chip in and upgrade you to a RX-8!

shaolin

Okay Ike I've got a question for you. Knowing what we know about the RX-8 and the SRT-4,

Which would you rather own?

spork

As far as I can tell Ike never said he liked the SRT-4 over the 8. He just said it was faster. And he's right. I don't see why people are jumping on his case. The SRT-4 sucks compared to the 8 in many ways, but it IS faster in a straight line. I don't see why so many people are loathe to believe that. It's not a big deal in my opinion. There's A LOT of cars faster than the 8. I still love mine more (than most of them at least!)

Ike

As it stands now I wouldn't buy either. If I had to chose between the two and they were my only options it would all depend on what I'm after. If I want a daily driver then I'd take the RX-8 in a heartbeat. If I want a project car to make ***** out fast then the SRT-4. As it stands now for MY liking both have some major flaws. The SRT-4 is FWD, I don't care for the looks, and it's just rough around the edges. The RX-8 stock just doesn't cut it for me in the speed department, tuning potential doesn't seem all that great unless you dump a lot of money into FI which hasn't even been proven yet. Lastly with it being RWD it would really have to make me swoon to give up how stable/fun AWD is in bad weather. Both fun cars that go about the fun in different ways.

Thanks for the backup Zoom.

Steiner

You ever thought about trading in your WRX for an Evo or STi?

Butthead

Who cares? SRT-4 is a cheap$hit car... fast, but cheap$hit

SD-8

This thread is like that MS 6 thread. This is what we know:

1. There are cars faster than the 8 & there are cars slower than the 8
2. SRT-4 is a very fast car compared to most cars
3. The 8 is a fast car compared to most cars
4. The SRT-4 and the 8 are completely different and most people who bought either one were not even looking at the other car as a possibility.

I don't understand all the hate for SRT's, 350z's, STI, EVO etc. They are all great cars, and I can understand why someone would of purchased them over the 8. I love my 8, and the people who bought one and now complain they are too slow are retarded.

If we are going to flame people for buying certain cars why not the BMW 525i, the 323i when it was out, Audi TT, MB C240 and so on. I think all those cars a ridiculous for how much $$ you spend and what you get besides a nice hood ornament.

Overport

I think a more reliable source would be SRT Forums but alot of those people may hang out on eachothers boards. But hey, they're alot nicer than what the 350Z owners say lol.

shaolin

Hey man I never jumped on Ike's case. Him and I are actually pretty cool...we've talked on more than one occasion...so don't go reading too far into a simple question.

And just for the record, I respect the SRT-4's, but I just think they're pretty crappy other than performance. Sorry, but cars are alot more than just speed. Speed is just one variable of a very large equation of what makes a good car to me. Call me snobbish, but I just couldn't drive anything that's called a NEON.

Steiner

It's as much a Neon as an Evo's a Lancer or an STi is an Impreza. Would you ever drive one of those? Where does the arrogance come from anyways? You drive an RX-8. You're not driving a BMW M3 or an Audi S4. It may make you feel better to hold your nose up at SRT-4 owners, but believe me when I say there are just as many people out there holding their noses up at you. Check out what the SVT forums (specifically the Cobra guys) have to say about the RX-8. The 350Z forums are even worse. The STi and Evo crowds tend to just be more confused than anything else as to the reasons why, for about the same price, people would choose an RX-8 over a rally car. And then again, the RX-7 forums might just be the worst. I've seen some very disparing remarks in there.

In the end it's your car. If you like it who gives a flying f*ck what people on the internet have to say. There's always something better and there's always somebody who THINKS they're better. That's life.

staticlag

How 'bout something thats called a "probe?"

zoom44

what if this car's name was neon?

Shamblerock

I still wouldn't drive it because my hampster wouldn't even fit in this 1/24 scaled down version of the Elise! Furthermore, the 8 has more HP! (Wow if felt good to tell someone I actually have more horsepower than their fancy/expensive and highly regarded sports car! )

Ike

I'd be driving one now if I had been able to wait a little longer when I bought my WRX. The STi came out the week I bought my car and the Evo was still pretty fresh and both were still going for over MSRP. I will most likey be in an Evo or STi within the next year, or my WRX will be stage 4. It's about 50/50 as to which I would get. I like Subaru better than Mitsubishi, I like the way the Evo handles better, I like the looks of the STi better, I like the boxer rumble, the Evo is more harsh for daily driving, the STi interior is far better, the Evo as of now is more tunable, the Evo has better seats, and on and on. It will most likely come down to the flip of a coin or who gives me the best deal.

It's comment like Butthead's and others that bug me and seem misguided, comments like that are worse than just about anything I see over on the SRT-4 forums and the SRT-4 forums have a rep for being very misguided when it comes to other cars. RX-8club has a similar rep now on a lot of other sites for comments like that. That bugs me because obviously I think as a whole this is a great community and I don't want you guys to have that rep, but some people are just blinded by their love for the RX-8 sometimes and don't look at the big picture.

Zoom I got into a friendly argument with me best friend about Vauxhall and how much I'd love to buy a 220 if they brought it here. He claimed that since it would probably be brought in under a US nameplate and then built here that they would screw it up. I doubt that and I'd trade my WRX in on one in a heartbeat no matter what nameplate it had. Call is a Probe, Neon, Vega, Gremlin, Nova, I don't care, I want one.

Steiner

Either car is a great buy. It's not a bad idea at all to wait a few years after a model is released to make sure any kinks have been ironed out.

I've test driven each a couple times. In my opinion the Evo was the more agile car, followed closely by the '05 STi, and then the '04 STi. In terms of power I'd have to rank the '04 STi first. I've put a deposit down on an '05 Evo myself...just waiting for my SRT-4 to sell.

In mid 2002 I was looking for a new car too. Had my mind pretty much made up on a WRX then got an offer I couldn't refuse through my work for a lease on a Nissan Spec V. In August of '03 I was t-boned by some old fart in a pickup truck making an illegal turn. Car was totalled. The leasing company got all the insurance money since it was their car, and I was left without a car and without any money for a down payment. The payments on a no-money-down loan for a $30k+ STi or Evo were too much for me. The SRT-4 was a good fit at the time. No regrets.

flip

I honestly don't care for what people think whether the 8 is slow or what not.. my friends drive STi's, Stage 4 WRX's, Evo's, 350z, etc... i still chose to get the 8..its whatever floats your boat

..Ike pretty much tells it as it is.. which is better than sugar coating everything just to say what we'd love to hear. Opinions are just like @$$holes... everybody's got one. Ike may be a "troll" but he's an honest troll.

Ike

Damn, looks like I may be driving a Saturn some day :p

leigh44

Does a driver of an Enzo think a Porsche Twin Turbo is a piece a sh*t?

Steiner

LOL. You got the idea. If you read the Porsche forums they say things like "at the end of the day you're driving as Porsche and the other guy's driving an Audi". The BMW guys have gotten a lot better, but you still see things occasionally like "at the end of the day you're driving a BMW and the other guy's driving a Chysler". It makes mental midgets feel better when they can project their insecurities on things generally considered to be of a lesser pedigree. It's called elitism. What goes around comes around though.

pimpindarx8

I went with my friend when he bought his srt4 and that thing flyz and handles very well. I very impressed by how fast it was but as far as looks go the rx8 looks far better no matter how u look at it!

khtm

I used to laugh at Neons when I owned an '86 Accord that cost $500. So I don't really agree with your comment. The fact that I now own an RX-8 hasn't changed my opinion of a Neon at all. It's a Dodge. It's ugly. And it is fast. But I'll never own one.

Steiner

I would have laughed if 5 years ago somebody told me I would some day own a Neon. The SRT-4 is not your typical Hertz rental car though. It shares lots of interior features and a couple body parts but if you drive one after the other you'll see what I mean. To each his own.