truemagellen

hey CAN ANYONE DIG UP THAT EVO VIDEO OF THE GIRL GUNNING AROUND THE TRACK THEN FLIPPING OVER, YARD SALE!!!!!!!...DUMBASS!

Kart Racer

IkeWRX, the difference was on Barber motorsports park, where the laptime is roughly 1:45, 2 seconds isnt a hell of alot considering it was the RS. When you factor in the extra work thats been put into making the EVO a more "performance race car" then that isnt alot. thats all i was getting at. I live in canada, we dont have EVO's here, if we did, i most likely would have chosen the EVO.

irfan

my 35000msrp 'lightweight' 238hp rx8 gets 14.2mpg..hows that for eating gas.

an evo 8 loaded is onyl 100 pounds heavier, gets better mileage, is faster by a lot, gets .97g of grip (mitsu numbers...around.95g elsewhere) and sells for about 35000msrp loaded. it also can drive in snow, and can haul more people and cargo.... so it seems its more practical, faster, same price, and can handle better, it wins hands down in everything except what matters to most people including me... styling. which is why i bought an rx8 instead of the evo. im willing to give up the performance excess for a unique car that looks good and doesnt have a dodge neon interior. but arguing which handles better, its no contest, the evo wins. .. to answer your original question. just be sure to ask urself what you REALLY want in a car.. do u want raw performace in a 4 door, or less performance but more style in a pseudo4door.

also, i really just wanted the RWD because they are much more fun even if it will hurt me in the winter

magixpuma

I hate you *** clowns Both good cars BOTH AWESOME CARS both FOR TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS...... rx8= touring slash cruising cars. Evo= rally ready dirt road car...... NOw tell me again why we are even comparing them. Nonetheless i love my rex and wouldnt mind having a evo, Discussion over STOP REPLYING TO THIS POST>< and THREAD!!!!
ARGGHGHGHGHGHH thanks for listening

Ajax

Different cars for different conditions... gotta agree there.

As far as buying cars goes.. i wouldnt buy a mitsubishi, ever.. Not because they make bad cars, but because due to their recent financial history, I don't know how long they're going to be around. As far as the evo goes, i like the performance, like the handling, i just hate the way it looks. Same feeling i get from the WRX. When I drove the evo, i was like, "wow, this is fast. a little bumpy, but fast.. why do i keep getting smiles from ricers?"

It scared me..
And Ike, as far as potential goes, i'm sure with enough money for mods, both cars would have unbelievable potential. Who knows what you can do until you've put 20k worth of work into a car (something I've never done but want to do). Then again, I could sell my 8 and buy an '05 vette or even the new vette C6 Z06.. i dunno.. i think modding would prolly be more fun. I'd be too busy wetting my pants in the vette.

billdo

Since I bought an evo a month and a half ago, I will give my thoughts on it. This car is amazing. It can do whatever you ask of it, and it will do it willingly. I did my first autox with the evo last sat. and even with no experience in the car I was still only about 1 sec. off the fastest time of the day. Scary part is, is that there is still 2 sec. in the car. The only reason I did not get FTD was that the car is way ahead of the driver right now. The car was so damn fast that I was reaction driving instead of looking ahead and planning my next move. Remember star wars, when the ship went to warp speed, thats pretty much how the car drove. Once I finally get dialed in and get my vision back where it needs to be, this thing is going to be a beast. The car can be driven at 11/10's like a madman, or smoothly, and still throw up great lap times.

But with that said, I still love the rx8. If the mazda dealers wouldnt have tried to play games after we had a deal, I would be in one right now. Put a deposit down and everything...but that is another story :p

Ike

I'm being realistic here, with a couple grand put into the Evo you can gain gobs of HP, that's simply not the case with the RX-8 (I'm talking about power ALL the time Charles :p).

Feras, you can get the urban jungle package on the RS which includes AC and a couple other goodies.

Kart Racer, 2 seconds difference on one lap is a lot wider margin than you would think.

Irfan and others, I like the styling of the Evo, it's grown on me quite a bit... When something performs like the Evo does it gets more and more beautiful each time I think about it It also has some of the best seats you'll ever find in a stock car, not pretty but very functional.

RXE16T

I thought about trading the 8 in for a Evo.............. the idea lasted about 5 mins. LOL

Seriously, great bang for your bucks.......... unfortunately I'm a snob and don't really like driving a car based on a econo box.

shaolin

^^^w3rd.

I always call the EVO the 30K SRT-4. The Sti is at least based on the WRX and 2.5 RS which are far superior to the base lancer...

If I was in that market the STi would get my money.

czr

iTrader: (3)

The Evo has great history in Asia though. Hence Evo 8.

Steiner

A few people have mentioned the SRT-4. I wasn't gonna discuss it because the mere mention of the car seems to illicit animosity like no other vehicle on the road today...but seeing as how (up to this point) this thead has been full of great posts and wonderfull info, I'll mention that I currently own an SRT-4. The car has tremendous power off the showroom floor. Even more power can be had for relatively cheap (I'm at about 290whp/310wtq after only $1,100 in Mopar engine/exhaust modifications), but improving the handling is expensive and, in my opinion, an exercise in futility. I've reached the limits of FWD streetability.

I've choosed to replace the SRT-4 with an Evo RS for a number of different reasons. Although I will have sacrificed approximately 40whp/50wtq and added another 300lbs of curb weight, I will have gained a far superior platform for future modifications. Equally as important IMHO is that I'll be driving a car that doesn't readily garner attention from law enforcement and boy racers...neither of which lead to good things in my experience. The SRT-4 is a great car at a great price but I'm not interested in attracting that kind of attention to myself anymore. I'm 28 years old. I'm married. Kids are around the corner, but I'm only a speeding ticket away from skyrocketing insurance rates. I need that like a whole in the head.

The RX-8 is a beautifull car in my opinion, albeit somewhat underpowered in its current factory form, but 2 doors and 18mpg is not an option for me. I have a coworker who owns one and I enjoy taking an occasional spin in it. It sticks to the road. That's for damn sure. It also revs like an F1 racer. Cruising around at 5k RPM's and knowing you have another 4k to go is an awesome feeling. I can't wait to see what Mazdaspeed brings to the USDM in an RX-8 shell. I think it will force the RX-7 guys to stand up and take notice though.

Good luck to you guys and thanks for the info.

Rxdriftingaction

man!! evo is not a family car at all !! especially evo RS.!!!
if u really want a family car.. consider about other car besides evo or wrx(sti)
In my opinion

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

A family car with AWD could be had in the new Saab 93/Aero if you like the styling. I wouldn't worry about Mitsubishi not being in existence in the near future. With the popularity of the Evo, those cars are to the import world what the Camaro with a small-block is to the American scene-a dime a dozen. It won't be long before we can build an entire Evo without ever using a factory Mitsu part number. I guess in order to impress Ike and get his full respect I am have to put a turbo and AWD on my RX. I'll get started on that project right away.

Charles

Charles R. Hill

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I forgot to ask why it is that several of us are getting MPG's only in the
teens? I have never recorded less than 20 mpg's and routinely get 22-24. That's with the M flash and some other stuff on my car.

Charles

Ike

Try again Charles, Evos are limited production cars and just guessing I think they make about 1/3-1/4 the amount of what Mazda makes of RX-8s every year. Mitsubishi isn't making a whole lot of money on the Evo, it's more a bragging rights car than anything. Don't even bring up the Lancer thing, it's a totally different car with totally different parts, they just resemble one another more than anything.

You are right about Mitsubishi not going anywhere in the near future though, but it's because of MHI, and all the savings and loans they own among other business ventures.

Lastly, I'll be impressed with your car once it's fast without the juice :D

shaolin

My idea of the perfect family car right now is the legacy....but the new MPS 6 looks promising...but I got a good 6-7 years before I'd consider family type cars...

foxman

They are selling 5000 or so EVOs a year in the US, compared to 40,000 Lancers. Sales on the EVO are not down nearly as dramatically as the rest of their cars which have seen sales drops as high as 40%-50%. They have fallen in the SUV market where they used to be strong and are still working on a restructuring plan. A shame because as a former Mitsu owner, they can build high quality.

Yes, try again Charles do you really think FI and AWD would do it for the vehement naysayers?

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Well, Ike, you are a hard nut to crack but I am glad I am not overwrought with anxiety about it. I need to re-state my point as I messed it up. My comment wasn't meant to say that the Evo is already a "dime a dozen". What I meant was that the aftermarket is so strong that pretty soon all of the parts necessary to build your own Evo from scratch will be available. Did you know that there are a couple of Chinese manufacturers who are restamping bodies and frames for such historic vehicles as the aforementioned Camaro, and the Mustang? Imagine building your own musclecar using all brand-new parts that have very few, or no, G.M. part numbers on them. We have the uni-body chassis available, aftermarket transmissions, rear axle assemblies, and even well-built crate engines. I won't be surprised to see Evo's taking the same route in the future because of the limited numbers produced.

On another note; what makes you think that Evo's don't make a lot of money? Where I work we make luxury SUV's and they are the profit center for the whole company even though the production numbers we build are small in comparison to the rest of the company. IMO, Mitsu ought to switch their scope over to the possibility that spo-com is a huge profit potential for them. Of course, my opinion is biased a bit but the only good thing to say about them comes by way of the Evo and, to a different degree, the Eclipse.

Charles

Steiner

I don't think Mitsubishi Corporation is going anywhere. Although the automotive side of the company has been struggling very hard in both the USDM and JDM since about Q3 of '01, the rest of company is in pretty good shape. Don't forget that Mitsubishi produces heavy machinery, electronics, appliances, etc. They operate wholly owned affiliate/subsidiary companies in Europe, Asia, South America, Australia and North America. These are just a few of the companies that fall under the Mitsubishi Corporation's business umbrella...

• Indiana Packers Corporation
• Mitsubishi Canada Limited
• Mitsubishi International Corporation
• NEC-Mitsubishi Electric Visual Systems Corporation
• NEC-Mitsubishi Electronics Display of America, Inc.
• Princes Limited
• Ryoshoku Limited

Rxdriftingaction

99.9% agree !!!! in 30k class !!

Deca Auto

Evo will spank a RX8 in the twisties. The evo is much much harder to drive though because the steering is so sensitive/reponsive. That is what all my friends tell me.

I will admit the RX8 is maybe the most fun in the twisties. I especially like how the steering wheel is so thick.

I have no idea how a stock wrx can keep up with a RX8 or rsx for that matter. The suspension and tires just weren't made for racing.

Steiner

I think the steering the RX-8 is probably more forgiving because the steering ratio isn't uber quick like the Evo. I dunno about the fun factor though. That's probably more subjective. Although I can't imagine anything much more confidence inspiring than a AWD slide into a sharp turn.

RX-Nut

Two totally different cars meant for two totally different things. IMO, they can't be compared. But if you must..

The Evo would spank the RX-8 hands down. Just as the STi would, and maybe even a plain ol' WRX.

The Evo was made for racing, ripping up tracks, and all that good stuff. It's a rally car first and foremost for cripes sake. What is the RX-8?? A sports car like no other. It's different, not your typical sports car and not a race car in its truest form..

Sorry, I see it as apples and oranges. So to answer the question.. "Off the showroom floor, how does the RX-8 stack up to the Mitsubishi Evolution in terms of handling?"

In my opinion, both cars have great handling and both their own pluses, however with its power advantage and rally car inspired build, the Evo would beat the RX-8 in a race with equal drivers hands down.

Ike

A Bone stock WRX beat an RX-8 around the track in the old Best Motoring so don't be so quick to dismiss it. However stock for stock I still give the RX-8 the nod in the handling department. Yes the tires on the WRX are very bad, but that's sort of an easy fix don't you think? So easy that I took my car home from the dealer sans Potenzas.

Deca Auto

Hehe. Those stock tires do suck. Maybe the WRX is slightly different in Japan, or their higher octane will of course help the turbo boxer over the NA rotary. I should have bought a STI....