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Old 06-16-2005, 03:53 PM
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BMW dominates international engine awards

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Summary of the IEOTY winners for 2005
For the overall award and eleven individual categories:

International Engine of the Year
BMW 5-litre V10 (M5 - M6)

Best Performance Engine
BMW 5-litre V10 (M5 - M6)

Best New Engine
BMW 5-litre V10 (M5 - M6)

Best Fuel Economy
Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive - Toyota Prius

Best Above 4.0-litre
BMW 5-litre V10 (M5 - M6)

Best 3.0-litre to 4.0-litre
BMW 3.2-litre - BMW M3

Best 2.5-litre to 3.0-litre
BMW 3-litre twin-turbo diesel (535d - European model)

Best 2.0-litre to 2.5-litre
Honda 2.2-litre diesel (Accord, CR-V, FR-V - European models)

Best 1.8-litre to 2.0-litre
Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo - 2006 VW Golf, GTI, Jetta, Audi A3 + A4

Best 1.4-litre to 1.8-litre
Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive - Toyota Prius

Best 1-litre to 1.4-litre
Fiat-GM Multijet 1.3-litre diesel (European Fiat and Opel models)

Best Sub 1-litre
Honda hybrid 1.0-litre IMA - Honda Insight
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dang, the bmw 3 litre twin turbo diesel bumped the RENESIS out of the 2.5-3.0L category
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atleast we have no competition for best rotary powered vehicle! =(
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how can the rx-8 not win the best 1.0-1.4 litre?
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because it's not a 1-1.4 litre engine
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Here we go again.
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I'd like to see 2nd place finishers
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1/3 rd of the award categories went to the same engine.
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Top 3 from each category

Best New Engine 2005:
1. BMW 5.0-litre V10 (M5, M6)
2. Ferrari 4.3-litre V8 (F430)
3. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (Lexus RX400h)

Best Fuel Economy:
1. Toyota 1.5-litre hybrid (Prius)
2. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (Lexus RX400h)
3. Fiat-GM 1.3-litre diesel (Panda, Punto, Ypsilon, Tigra, Corsa)

Best Performance Engine:
1. BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
2. Ferrari 4.3-litre V8
3. Mercedes-AMG 6-litre bi-turbo (SL 65 AMG, CL 65 AMG)

Sub 1-litre:
1. Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
2. Smart Brabus (Roadster)
3. Toyota 1-litre (Yaris/Vitz)

1-litre to 1.4-litre:
1. Fiat-GM 1.3 diesel (Panda, Punto, Ypsilon, Tigra, Corsa)
2. Honda 1.3-litre IMA hybrid (Civic)
3. Peugeot-Citroen/Ford 1.4-litre diesel (C2, C3, Fiesta, 1007)

1.4-litre to 1.8-litre:
1. Toyota 1.5 hybrid (Prius)
2. Toyota 1.8-litre VVLT-i (Celica, Corolla, Lotus Elise)
3. Peugeot-Citroen/Ford 1.6-litre diesel (C-MAX, C4, C5, Mazda3, 206, 307, 407)

1.8-litre to 2-litre:
1. Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo (Audi A3, A4, Golf GTI)
2. Honda 2-litre (S2000)
3. BMW diesel 2-litre (X3, 120d, 320d)

2-litre to 2.5-litre:
1. Honda 2.2-litre diesel (Accord, CR-V, FR-V)
2. BMW 2.5-litre (325, 525)
3. Ford 2.3-litre hybrid (Escape HEV)

2.5-litre to 3-litre:
1. BMW 3-litre twin-turbo diesel (535d)
2. Honda 3-litre hybrid (Accord)
3. BMW 3.0-litre straight-six (330, 530, 630, 730)

3-litre to 4-litre:
1. BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
2. Porsche 3.8-litre (911)
3. Toyota 3.3-litre hybrid (RX400h)

Above 4-litre:
1. BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
2. Ferrari 4.3 V8 (F430)
3. Volkswagen 5.0-litre V10 diesel (Touareg, Phaeton)

Overall International Engine of the Year 2005:
1: BMW 5-litre V10
2: BMW 3-litre twin-turbo diesel
3: Toyota 1.5-litre hybrid
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BMW's new v10 is incredible! Their newest inline 6's (even their older ones) are also incredible. One thing you can't complain about bmw is the feel of their engines, awesome.
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Cool It is just that our Rotory is old news

The rotary was fresh news in 2003, now its old news. We are still #1 no matter what the new boys on the block are saying.
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good for them, now if only they made something with one of those engines that was reasonably priced. :D
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What's the criteria for winning?
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some M5 engine p0rn:



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Uhhh, this topic needs a NWS after those pics were posted.
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Nah, they should ban him for posting p0rn online.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
because it's not a 1-1.4 litre engine
Say what? Lost me there...
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Long debate of how Mazda figures the engine size of the Rotary. Many say Mazda is correct, others say Mazda is not and that a 1.3l would be 2.6l or so...but they are comparing it against a piston engine. Been talked about on here and throughout the world. You can find more info through a search.
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I would've given the nod to the BMW V10 in the performance category. But for the LS7 not to finish top 3 is a shame. #2 the Ferrari 4.3L probably won't last 10,000 miles, knowing Ferrari.
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that bmw v10 is beautiful.
i'm not a real fan of bmw cars atm because i really dislike the fact that they continue to take the concept of driving away from the driver and jam it into an even smarter computer. Yes, i'm sure for the average driver, that's a great thing, but for enthusiasts, it's just not as much fun! Mazda did it too, but not nearly to the extent of BMW.
Safety is great, but I wanna drive!
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The BMW V10 makes about the same power as the Chevy LS7 engine. Yet the V10 is a bit heavier, quite a bit larger and costs at least double to manufacture.
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What was the criteria? Power? Engineering? Patents pending? All of the above?

BMW engines are awesome but good luck trying to mod any BMW engine? Tunability obviously wasn't a criteria, as those M3 guys pay $2k+ for a Dinan titanium exhaust and get 8-10whp.
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Originally Posted by babylou
The BMW V10 makes about the same power as the Chevy LS7 engine. Yet the V10 is a bit heavier, quite a bit larger and costs at least double to manufacture.
awesome!! someone else noticed that too!! that just made my day
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Originally Posted by Steiner
What was the criteria? Power? Engineering? Patents pending? All of the above?

BMW engines are awesome but good luck trying to mod any BMW engine? Tunability obviously wasn't a criteria, as those M3 guys pay $2k+ for a Dinan titanium exhaust and get 8-10whp.
Tunability is never a criteria for these awards. Just the standard power, engineering, etc.

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The BMW V10 makes about the same power as the Chevy LS7 engine. Yet the V10 is a bit heavier, quite a bit larger and costs at least double to manufacture.
Whats so awesome about their 7L V8? Ferrari has the 4.3L that is 17hp shy of the V10 and the LS7. Mugen has a 4L V8 with 590hp. I don't know...maybe I am biased against Chevy.
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Well for one, the LS7 will last about 1700x longer than the Ferrari 4.3 :p . And it is a pretty amazing engine. It won't be recognized by the International community, simply because it's "Old tech." When thuthfully, it is an old concept, with a lot of high tech built in. And peak horsepower isn't everything (which is why the old Buick GN was faster (much) than cars with more horsepower).

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