Thats why you don't take an out of warranty BMW to a dealer, or an out of warranty any brand to a dealer. You take it to an indie or fix it yourself.

cool, thanks for clearing that up.

Looks like someone found a full list of standard features and options for MY08:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1685

Im really liking Montego Blue with Terracotta and Alum.

Just drove the 135i.... in the GT5 demo. :)

FWIW, it's a very fun and nimble handling car in the game, able to hold it's own against stock Evo Xs. The sound of the dual turbos is pretty sweet.

BTW, the physics modeling on the GT5 is much improved, especially tire traction dynamics and weight transfers. The cockpit view is very nice too.

lol me to . cockpit looks really i agree with you? btw they are suppose to unlock the IS, and other cars once Tokyo motor show ends or begins, i cant remember. btw the car you cant see is the STI new model.

Looks like the 3394 is actually the curb weight not the UK unladen weight. I think BMW just uses the term unladen to mean that it is not loaded. If you check the unladen weight numbers for the 335i they match the curb weight of the vehicle.

i hurry up this photo taking of the 1 series in GT5
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...uice/gt5-1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ajuice/gt4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ajuice/gt3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ajuice/gt2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ajuice/gt1.jpg

haha, oh wow they even show the nav and everything, thats pretty cool

Interesting it will have a staggered set up.

Well, the latest information from Car and Driver says that it is even worse than that.

"We drove only the 135i coupe, which is expected to start in the high $30,000s and is powered by the excellent twin-turbo, direct-injection 3.0-liter inline-six which you already know from the 335i coupe and sedan. This powerhouse also won the International Engine of the Year Award—twice. Fitted into this 3450-pound 135i—yes, the 1-series is only about 100 pounds lighter than an equivalent 3-series—the 300-hp engine sounds fabulous and spins up quickly to its 7000-rpm redline." [emphasis added by me]

Full story can be found here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...5i.html?al=124

3450 pounds! Holy smokes! If this really is true, what is the point of this car? The more information I hear, the more it sounds like the 1-series is only going to be slightly less heavy and slightly less money than the 3-series. I am really bummed by how heavy this thing turned out to be.

Cheers

I'm upset by this as well. I was hoping it would come in MUCH closer to 3000lbs...

C&D weighed the 335i coupe and it came in at 3366 and several other owners have weighed in around the 3200-3300 lb range... so the 135i will be right around 3000 - 3200 lbs range

it all depends on what options are in the car, you cant generalize the rx8 to a certain weight because the sport version is nearly 80-90 lbs less. I think we can safely say that it will be between 2000-6000 lbs :P

Wrong. At best it will be 3380.

so are you saying car and driver lied when they put their 335i coupe from this years Lightning Lap comparo on the scales and it weighed in at 3366, or you think the 135i will be heavier then the 335i? :rolleyes:


BMW unladen weights contain 150lb driver, 15 pounds of luggage, and a 90% full tank...

I like this car a lot, I was considering a 335i, but this might just do the trick

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/02/b...ooning-ensues/

some reviews are up, for all your crazy weight freaks
its only about 130lb less than the 335, at 3440lb

3440? HOW? Are the doors made of lead?

BMW themselves say the 335i coupe's unladen weight is 3571; everywhere else I look the weight is at least 3550. C&D even stated 3557. Not sure what C&D was smoking with the article you read, but it must have been better than what everyone else is smoking.

Also, the new Tii concept appears to be the 3200 pound car we were all hoping the 135i would have been. The 135i is 3373 right from BMW's mouth.

It will be a tough decision when Mazda drops the new 2800 pound rotary coupe...

BMW announced the price today accidentally.
The car is not only too heavy, but too expensive.
Base price of the 135i is 35,675. Fully loaded, just over 52k.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/15/b...es-135i-at-35/

I was hoping they'd start at around 32k and I could load it up to about 40k.. but man.. 35k doesn't give much room. It really annoys me that BMW almost always gets MSRP for their cars too. I paid invoice for my 8... unless I know the dealer, that isn't gonna happen on a bimmer. Nice profit for them, I guess. Here in TX, people are paying about 2-3% more than MSRP for the 335i..

bah.

I don't get why you and many people on Bimmerforums are surprised by the pricing. It's about what most speculated the pricing would be...

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed.

I had hoped that the baseline 135i would be the same as the baseline 3 series. It's close, but not quite there. It makes purchasing a 1 series a lot harder to justify.

I know what you mean, but I expected this. Optioned out the way I'd want it the car will be right at 40k. At that point my fiance will be rightfully pissed at me for pirchasing one when we're paying for a wedding and home improvement stuff. For some reason an Evo or STI in the low to mid 30s doesn't phase her though...

Between the weight, the lack of LSD, the sunroof, and the fact that there are going to be a bunch of dady's girls driving them around I had decided against the car a few weeks ago. The price of one optioned out the way I want it just confirms that I'm better off with the new STI, Evo X, or just keeping my current Evo.

It's kinda tempting to just pay off my Evo and mod the hell out of it and get a used M3, 335, or G37 in a couple years.

The lack of the LSD doesn't bother me too much because it does have an electronically controlled diff, and if you don't like that, you can probably drop the late M3 diff in there for not too much money.

My plan was to buy a new car next year around spring and this was the top candidate. I wanted to stay under 40k too so I could keep my payment under $500 a month. It's just not realistic now. I'd want it optioned up to about 40k as well. For that money, I could buy a decently equipped 335i.

Just do European Delivery, the Euro Delivery base price is a lot less. Tack on some profit for the dealer and there you go.

This is the Euro Delivery pricing for the 335i:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/pdf/pricin...92_Pricing.pdf