Anyone own a Mazda 3?
08-16-2008, 11:44 AM
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Anyone own a Mazda 3?
8 months ago my wife bought a new 08 Mazda 3. She now has 13,000 mi. on the car. The tires were rotated at 10k mi.The front tires were worn down to the indicators. So they put them on the rear of the car. Then the Mazda service manager told her that the rear of the 3 does not have any camber adjustment and to expect crappy tire wear and that the reason for that is that the 3 is so light in the rear that Mazda purposely built it that way so it would handle correctly. The car came with Goodyear Eagle RS-A. Funny though the excessive tire wear was on the front. My wife drives like an old woman. That seems excessive to me. Anyone else had this happen? Thanks
08-16-2008, 11:48 AM
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It's probably because I have a Speed, but my rears wear at about half the rate of my fronts. I'm at 21k miles and probably have an appointment with the tire salesman in the near future, but the fronts have worn surprisingly fast, and the rears surprisingly slow. I think my fronts (now rears) were at the wear bars around 15k miles.
Hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
Hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions.
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i had an '06 base model mazda 3 with the sun and sound package (2.0L engine). I had to replace the tires @ 30k miles and I was fairly rough on the tires. The camber is high with no adjustment, but the rotation interval is really 5k miles. It ate tires but seeing how I abused it, I wouldnt think youd have as many problems. My toe-in was off, and due to the higher camber settings, if your toe is off, the insides of your tires will wear excessively. I suggest getting the alignment checked soon, and before you put new tires on.
08-16-2008, 02:29 PM
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She is thinking of getting rid of this car. $650.00 more or less for new tires every 20 to 25k miles is a bunch of crap. If it was a high performance car I could maybe see it . I have a set of conti contact patch on my 8 with 34k on them and still have some life left in them.
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It could also just be that they're soft tires to promote the handling that Mazda's known for. I wouldn't give up so easily - throw some rock hard Generals on there and see how it does. My buddy put some on his E36 M3 and they just won't die. It won't handle as well, but I doubt you'd notice unless you're throwing it into corners all the time.
08-16-2008, 07:37 PM
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It could also just be that they're soft tires to promote the handling that Mazda's known for. I wouldn't give up so easily - throw some rock hard Generals on there and see how it does. My buddy put some on his E36 M3 and they just won't die. It won't handle as well, but I doubt you'd notice unless you're throwing it into corners all the time.
08-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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In addition to an RDX and RX8, I own a 2005 Mazda3 S. The car is mostly highway driven and its first set of Goodyear Eagle RSA's lasted about 38,000 miles.
The car now has 58,000 miles and the current RSA's look to be about 1/2 gone, so the wear has been consistent.
If your Mazda3 is driven in lots of stop and go, I'd bet your tire wear/mile will be worse.
If you replace your Goodyears with some Khumos rated at 600, you'll likely give up handling.
Having said all this, I think the Goodyear RSA is overpriced for the performance it delivers.
The car now has 58,000 miles and the current RSA's look to be about 1/2 gone, so the wear has been consistent.
If your Mazda3 is driven in lots of stop and go, I'd bet your tire wear/mile will be worse.
If you replace your Goodyears with some Khumos rated at 600, you'll likely give up handling.
Having said all this, I think the Goodyear RSA is overpriced for the performance it delivers.
08-23-2008, 11:20 PM
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kwescott has a mazda 3
08-23-2008, 11:34 PM
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heck ya!
seats are nowhere as comfy as an 8 so that takes a little getting used to
seats are nowhere as comfy as an 8 so that takes a little getting used to
08-24-2008, 05:46 PM
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my parents' mazda3 S wagon had the RSA's last about 32k miles. This included about 2k miles of spirited driving (me basically). They were replaced with 215/50/17 Falken Ziex ZE-912's which were purchased when discounttiredirect had a huge sale for about $200. RSA's are terrible. Falken Ziex aren't so great either, but last pretty long and are really cheap.
08-25-2008, 11:30 PM
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In the process of possibly unloading my Speed 6 for a mazda 3 in late fall. Warranty is running out and my Speed 6 has seen enough of the dealership in it's time to make me weery about owning it past warranty.
I got a 3 5 door hatch as a loaner once and loved it. Sure it's no Speed 3, but you can't beat it as a full time practicle daily.
I got a 3 5 door hatch as a loaner once and loved it. Sure it's no Speed 3, but you can't beat it as a full time practicle daily.
08-25-2008, 11:36 PM
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The RS-A's have a treadwear rating of 250 which is pretty soft. I would recommend rotating the tires more often (each oil change or two) and try some higher treadwear rating tires.
My wife has 11K on her 3 and the tires are fine. I rotate them about 3-4 times per year.
My wife has 11K on her 3 and the tires are fine. I rotate them about 3-4 times per year.
12-19-2010, 01:38 AM
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I'm so annoyed about the tire wear issue... When my 2006 Mazda3 needed tires at 20k, I said huh? I had rotated them every 6k, like recommended... My old Civic used to get 80k out of a set... Local tire shop said the factory tires weren't up to the "sporty" Mazda3... so I got Yokohama's, and again, they were worn at about 23k... what the heck? the DEALER said "oh, they're worn on the inside, needs alignment..." so I got another set, Goodyear's, higher rating, alignment, more money... and NOW THE THIRD SET IS WORN ON THE INSIDE...
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
12-19-2010, 01:49 AM
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That sounds pretty ridiculous all the way around. My advice is take it to a different alignment shop. Going back to the dealer over and over again expecting different results clearly isn't going to solve your issue.
Take it to a tire shop. They can probably recommend a front alignment that is less abusive to the tires.
The dealer WILL NOT align the car other than to Mazda specs. We have 30K miles on my wifes Mazda3 and the tires are still in great shape.
edit: updated to 30K miles and still good tires.
Take it to a tire shop. They can probably recommend a front alignment that is less abusive to the tires.
The dealer WILL NOT align the car other than to Mazda specs. We have 30K miles on my wifes Mazda3 and the tires are still in great shape.
edit: updated to 30K miles and still good tires.
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12-19-2010, 05:53 AM
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I'm so annoyed about the tire wear issue... When my 2006 Mazda3 needed tires at 20k, I said huh? I had rotated them every 6k, like recommended... My old Civic used to get 80k out of a set... Local tire shop said the factory tires weren't up to the "sporty" Mazda3... so I got Yokohama's, and again, they were worn at about 23k... what the heck? the DEALER said "oh, they're worn on the inside, needs alignment..." so I got another set, Goodyear's, higher rating, alignment, more money... and NOW THE THIRD SET IS WORN ON THE INSIDE...
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
12-19-2010, 03:23 PM
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I'm so annoyed about the tire wear issue... When my 2006 Mazda3 needed tires at 20k, I said huh? I had rotated them every 6k, like recommended... My old Civic used to get 80k out of a set... Local tire shop said the factory tires weren't up to the "sporty" Mazda3... so I got Yokohama's, and again, they were worn at about 23k... what the heck? the DEALER said "oh, they're worn on the inside, needs alignment..." so I got another set, Goodyear's, higher rating, alignment, more money... and NOW THE THIRD SET IS WORN ON THE INSIDE...
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
I had to talk myself blue in the face before the dealer service finally admitted the car is actually DESIGNED like this. They set the rear camber "for more sporty handling", and this can not be adjusted to make the rear tires wear evenly, without using aftermarket parts... which the dealer said they won't pay for.
It just angers me so much that no one (at the dealer, or at the tire shop) mentioned that the car cannot actually be "aligned", and that spending $100 on "alignment" (without installing non-Mazda parts) has no chance of solving the issue... and that it took 3 years to figure out I'd been had.
On a new car's window, they put gas mileage, and an approximate fuel cost per year. THIS extra cost sure is a surprise to me; maybe when the engineers knowingly build a car in a manner that will make the customer buy $600 worth of tires every 17-20k, that information should be disclosed.
I threatened them with lemon law; I asked them to fix the problem, brought it back 3x. I had to go above the dealer to the regional service manager; now Mazda is finally going to cover SOME of the cost of having the aftermarket kit installed.
This is so completely annoying to me. I'd prefer if Mazda would just be honest and disclose the issue, let people decide what they want to live with. Don't BS me for years about the tires being the problem; don't tell me that spending money on alignment can fix it, when they KNOW it has been designed to wear tires like this.
One service person said quote "well, that's just the price you pay to get that ZOOM-ZOOM, you know?" well, maybe, but I'd prefer to be able to dial OUT some zoom-zoom, in order to conserve tire consumption.
You're nothing but a whining little bitch.
if u don't like it go back to your garbage Civic. Thats all.
ever wonder why Civic is not fun to drive? cuz its for garbage people like you. Yeah, Garbage car, garbage people.
You didn't even ask the question @ the right forum, so yeah just stfu and go away moron.
this guy is an idiot.
12-20-2010, 12:02 PM
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oh my ... I guess I didn't realize this is a little boys' club... my bad...
Since this thread was titled "Anyone own a Mazda 3?" and since there was some discussion above about the 3, that did not include phrases such as "wrong car, you worthless drooling one-eyed meat slapper" I assumed you guys might be smart enough to figure out that some people own BOTH cars.
Thank you so much, for clearing up my over-estimation of your abilities.
And some of you geniuses here were providing advice on this Mazda 3 tire issue that is clearly wrong, you even said it yourself:
yeah, that's exactly what I'm...
nah, fuggetit... yer right, I'm just being whiny beyotch, maybe one day I'll be cool enough to join your club... I dream of it every night ... I dry my tears on women's panties, and I had to buy those from Macy's cuz I've never had a girlfriend, I spend all my time whacking off on pictures of cool cars... I thought THAT was enough to be in your club... but no, you've shown me the light, I won't be bothering you mighty bloggers any further on this or any other car issue... boo hooo ....
Really? Still defining your self-worth by your vehicle? really? cuz, some of us, um, kinda grew outta that... k... Best of luck in your journey to manhood there...
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Thank you so much, for clearing up my over-estimation of your abilities.
And some of you geniuses here were providing advice on this Mazda 3 tire issue that is clearly wrong, you even said it yourself:
yeah, that's exactly what I'm...
nah, fuggetit... yer right, I'm just being whiny beyotch, maybe one day I'll be cool enough to join your club... I dream of it every night ... I dry my tears on women's panties, and I had to buy those from Macy's cuz I've never had a girlfriend, I spend all my time whacking off on pictures of cool cars... I thought THAT was enough to be in your club... but no, you've shown me the light, I won't be bothering you mighty bloggers any further on this or any other car issue... boo hooo ....
.xoxoxoxo.
i like this guy
12-21-2010, 05:56 PM
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LOL he's the man! Welcome HarrySpider, sorry to hear about your 3. That sounds like a load of crap to me, between that and all the RX-8 issues I'm slowly losing my respect for Mazda. =/
Where is Ford in all this? They own the damn company they should be giving Mazda the resources to build a car that isn't prone to over 9000 issues (mainly talking about the 8 here). Oh well, I still love the car anyway ;o
Where is Ford in all this? They own the damn company they should be giving Mazda the resources to build a car that isn't prone to over 9000 issues (mainly talking about the 8 here). Oh well, I still love the car anyway ;o