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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Any Advice on Nurburgring

I'm planning a retirement trip to Europe and one of the visists by myself will be to Nurburgring to have 5 fast laps in a hot car..by myself! Anyone done the ring..no BS thanks just the facts and r :D eal advice. 9100RPM
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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here! ive some experience with the great nordschleife. 2 x 500km race with a alfa-romeo sud, 2 x 24-h race with mx5. no i was not the driver i was member of the pitcrew. but a race it two times privat. ITS JUST GREAT!!! i was on many many tracks in europe but NORDSCHLEIFE is the very best! A very long track with fast and dangerous corners...
JUST TRY IT!


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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Germanrx8racer
here! ive some experience with the great nordschleife. 2 x 500km race with a alfa-romeo sud, 2 x 24-h race with mx5. no i was not the driver i was member of the pitcrew. but a race it two times privat. ITS JUST GREAT!!! i was on many many tracks in europe but NORDSCHLEIFE is the very best! A very long track with fast and dangerous corners...
JUST TRY IT!


sry for my bad english
When I come to Germany I will contact you ..I need some advice, this won't be till early (January) 2006). Is this time too much much snow rain ....? I have no idea. Let me know what you think ...Ich Leiben minen RX8 ... :p sorry about my bad Deutch 9100RPM
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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download this video!!

http://82.165.26.185/download/download.php?file=1
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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This might sound really stupid but if you can get a hold of a Playstation 2 and a copy of GT4 (Gran Turismo) you can practice the track and get a feel for the layout and setup of the track.

While I have never been to Germany to drive the famed track, I have gotten a chance to compare GT vs. Laguna Seca and while it is "just" a video game, it does give a feeling for real time track expectancies.

Just a thought... good luck on the ring.. I am officially jealous.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Germanrx8racer
Thanks great video..a little faster than my hire car I suspect. After seeing this an numerous drives around Nurburgring on GT4 I have a great unddrstanding of the complexities of the track..it seems daunting but let's go for it. 9100RPM
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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This might sound really stupid but if you can get a hold of a Playstation 2 and a copy of GT4 (Gran Turismo) you can practice the track and get a feel for the layout and setup of the track.

While I have never been to Germany to drive the famed track, I have gotten a chance to compare GT vs. Laguna Seca and while it is "just" a video game, it does give a feeling for real time track expectancies.

Just a thought... good luck on the ring.. I am officially jealous.

Good thought. The above video and the GT4 exercise has made me even more anxious to get there and to blast! 9100RPM..... and they call you killjoy!??
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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There is a guy over on some of the Subaru boards who has driven the ring many times and has several videos posted of his runs in an STi type RA, I'll get his info and maybe you can shoot him an e-mail or something.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Here you go man, John seems like a very nice guy and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have even if you're not a Suby guy

http://www.johnfelstead.co.uk/videos/videos.htm
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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I have been there for a few races...sadly only in the grandstands.

You are a truly blessed to drive the course.

Please be sure to give us feedback.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Here you go man, John seems like a very nice guy and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have even if you're not a Suby guy

http://www.johnfelstead.co.uk/videos/videos.htm
Thanks ..have contacted John by email. also
www.nurburgring.org is also a wealth of information..9100RPM
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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Thanks great video..a little faster than my hire car I suspect. After seeing this an numerous drives around Nurburgring on GT4 I have a great unddrstanding of the complexities of the track..it seems daunting but let's go for it. 9100RPM


the video shows only ONE lap on nordschleife
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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I have a copy of "InCar 956". In it Derick Bell takes a lap in a Porsche 956. He talks about break and shifting points on the track. The video should still be available.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Here you go man, John seems like a very nice guy and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have even if you're not a Suby guy

http://www.johnfelstead.co.uk/videos/videos.htm
What a bummer..the time I will be in Europe is when Nurburgring is CLOSED! Doesn't reopen toill APRIL!

I am negotiating with the wife that I just fly to Germany in April 2006 just to have a day in Nurburgring 9100RPM :p
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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I've seen Laguna Seca and GT4 gets it down almost exactly. Uncanny...so practice practice on the Ring in the game! Because if my laps around that are any indication, brother, you'll need it...
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 02:02 AM
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You can drive the Nurburgring in your rent car if you want to or you can get a ride there. Depending on currency exchange rates at the time, it is about $12-$15 per lap. The track is 13 miles long and has about a 1000 ft elevation change. That's alot. You can also get a ride in a race car with a professional instructor who is driving. This is something like $200 a lap but oh what a lap it would be!
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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woah...

I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in that car lol One day when i take a tripe to europe ill have to shell out 200 to try it
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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but its also closed from mid april to june because at that time there will bie 500km-race and 24h-race. i will be there with the alfa sud
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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I drove the Nordschliefe last August, in my wife's two-day-old Volvo S80T6. We had taken European delivery of the car in Brussels and then attended the Belgian GP F1 race at Spa, just abut an hour west of the 'Ring. Driving that circuit had been a dream for a long time and on an earlier trip, I had sort of snuck by there in a rental Ford Escort (hot Euro version), but the circuit was closed that day.

I really have no clue what my best lap time may have been, but I really wasn't determined to go out there and hang it out over the edge, as it were. Consider the following: it was my wife's car and was exactly two-and-a-half days old. She was sitting in the passenger seat and not at all thrilled about this particular phase of our OSD adventure. It had just stopped raining. Although I had "lapped" the track in the past on the computer, I was only now seeing the real asphalt for the first time. Learning any circuit is one of the real keys to going quickly, and at 14 miles and 174 turns, the Ring is real hard to learn.

As an old-school circuit, the penalties for making a mistake at speed are severe for car and driver alike. We met some Brits the night before who were there for the weekend and one of them had totaled his BMW M3 earlier that day on (or more accurately, OFF) track. There's no "reset" button if you overcook it in the wrong spot. Oh, and the officials will charge you appropriately for bending their Armco and/or sending out a wrecker and ambulance to haul you and the remains of your ride away.

The combination of all of the above factors kept me from trying really hard, although my passenger did shriek several times. Guess I was going plenty fast for her.

It was a fun experience that I'd recommend to anyone in the vicinity of this legendary circuit on a day it's open, or for those lucky enough to live in the region. For me it was mostly about the history, and you can really get a sense for the brass cojones it took to go around there at speed in the over-powered, under-braked skinny-tired grand prix machinery of the past.

Herre's a site I found especially helpful.

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/index.html
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by boothguy
I drove the Nordschliefe last August, in my wife's two-day-old Volvo S80T6. We had taken European delivery of the car in Brussels and then attended the Belgian GP F1 race at Spa, just abut an hour west of the 'Ring. Driving that circuit had been a dream for a long time and on an earlier trip, I had sort of snuck by there in a rental Ford Escort (hot Euro version), but the circuit was closed that day.

I really have no clue what my best lap time may have been, but I really wasn't determined to go out there and hang it out over the edge, as it were. Consider the following: it was my wife's car and was exactly two-and-a-half days old. She was sitting in the passenger seat and not at all thrilled about this particular phase of our OSD adventure. It had just stopped raining. Although I had "lapped" the track in the past on the computer, I was only now seeing the real asphalt for the first time. Learning any circuit is one of the real keys to going quickly, and at 14 miles and 174 turns, the Ring is real hard to learn.

As an old-school circuit, the penalties for making a mistake at speed are severe for car and driver alike. We met some Brits the night before who were there for the weekend and one of them had totaled his BMW M3 earlier that day on (or more accurately, OFF) track. There's no "reset" button if you overcook it in the wrong spot. Oh, and the officials will charge you appropriately for bending their Armco and/or sending out a wrecker and ambulance to haul you and the remains of your ride away.

The combination of all of the above factors kept me from trying really hard, although my passenger did shriek several times. Guess I was going plenty fast for her.

It was a fun experience that I'd recommend to anyone in the vicinity of this legendary circuit on a day it's open, or for those lucky enough to live in the region. For me it was mostly about the history, and you can really get a sense for the brass cojones it took to go around there at speed in the over-powered, under-braked skinny-tired grand prix machinery of the past.

Herre's a site I found especially helpful.

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/index.html
It is a great site and I have emailed them directly. Thanks 9100RPM
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