Broker73

Well considering my car is delayed! I thought I would revisit the forum and have some fun with IKE..lol......I thought this would peak his interest. I have ordered (back in FEB!) a 335i sedan with sport and premium package......looking at strickly accel comparisons, I think these two would be a good match.....from what I have read I noticed the 0-60 times are close, but the BMW traps higher in the 1/4?...and the 0-100 times are also in favor of the 335 but 1sec+ with the margin increasing as you approach 130mph.

Broker73

oh and for arguments sake both cars are stock.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

2wd vs. awd? 0-60 is probably bumped up for the 335 because you only need 1 shift to get to 60 (2 in the STi) but i gotta say putting that power to the ground in first gear is a test of skill for the bimmer. But goddam does it fly when you get it right, 4k miles on the clock and the exhaust and intake is opening up a bit so that you can finally hear when the boost hits so the launches have been juicier. The bimmer has more torque than the STi which may be why it traps higher.

foxman

Great choice, I have been seriously looking at the 335i. Some nice add ons are coming out for the 335i as well -

http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_zero.htm

On the road, I think it's pretty much a drivers contest. E39 M5 owners have definitely taken note of the 335i.

playdoh43

a 3.0 liter i6 vs 2.5 liter i4, its supposed to have acceleration advantage as well as better torque curve...

Broker73

I got the auto with the paddle shift as well....I noticed some guys on the Bimmer forums still getting 13.5's in the 1/4 with the auto

I even think on C&D one of the cars they tested was the auto and they managed 4.9 0-60........the waiting has been killing me, now with the CN strike my car is delayed a further 3-6weeks?

I do think from a roll the 335 would pull on an STI.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

from a roll i would definitely agree, the torque on the 335 is intense (for those of us used to the rx8 ) but ive only driven the manual, have no idea what the auto's like or how to properly launch an auto for that matter.

playdoh43

btw ike drives an evo not sti...

Broker73

I have driven both, and I must say the auto feels just as quick......I wanted a change and actually really liked the feel of the auto...having the paddle shift was a nice option, and the rev matching downshifts were great......on my first test drive the salesman was really pushing me to "push the car"..lol...at one light we release the traction control and I simply floored it.....the car took off like a rocket.......this was on a stretch of road leading to a highway out of town..I looked down and had to hit the brake as we hit 100mph in no time...what I did notice in the auto is the shift from 1st to second there is a nice hard pull all the way to redline...no drop off in power.

playdoh43

im thinking of possibly leasing a coupe next year, previous ownership of bmw in my family has taught me that leasing is perfect for me because it cost an arm and leg to maintain once warranty runs out.

eforer

Is the auto the smg like in the m3? Or is it a traditional auto orbital gear deal with a torque converter? I would still miss 3 pedals even with the smg. The BMW is pretty potent for a non-m car for sure. I just don't know if I'm sold on the Bangle esque styling. That said the appearance of the STI is definately lacking in comparison to the BMW. I've only driven the previous gen M3 and have driven the STI. In a purely driving/dynamic sense, I preferred the sti, but the new 335i seems to have struck a pretty potent blend of performance and luxury, at least on paper. Might make the decision very tough.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

the performance on the 335 in terms of the twisties is surprisingly good given its alleged porkiness...steering response is tighter than the 8 imho (actual maneuverability is a different issue but response is excellent)

playdoh43

no smg

Ike

In the 1/4 and on the streets from a dig the STI will have an edge. On the highway the 335 will pull.

P.S. The STI engine is not an i4

playdoh43

oh yeah its a boxter

Aznxkaiser

Boxer* H4, same time porsche uses. If your going to compare the 335 to an AWD car, go for the Evo. Ive been a STI fan but I gotta hand it to the Evo's for acceleration (Yeah I know its mainly because of the computers =P)

Ike

The computers don't help acceleration. The Evo is faster because of the bigger turbo and better engine setup.

playdoh43

i thought the sti has always been a tad bit faster in the straight line, at least when stock?

eforer

I never really got to enjoy my evo 8 from a dig as the transfer cases are made of glass. You either have to dump it hard and high, obliterate the tires and put negative drive through the aforementioned fragile transfer case, or you have to vaporize the clutch. Neither option is appealing or inexpensive. Had I gone STI 4 years ago, I'd probably still be driving it. The evo may be quicker on paper, and ultimately have a better chassis on the track. Day to day though the sti is the better choice IMO, and this is from a former evo owner of 2 years. I regretted purchasing that car.

Ike

Yeah, and the WRX tranny is made of glass as well... I've launched my Evo multiple times, same goes for my WRX, no problems. If you know how to drive them right you won't have issues.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

well in either case launching a 335i is a heavenly inline 6 scream supplemented by a beautiful whistling sound of turbos with just a hint of that wonderful tire squeal, and there ain't no glass transfer case either

Ike

They were about even... But, since '05 the Evo has been faster. Stock Evo IX's have been known to trap as high as 107 mph and a more than a few people have run 12's stock.

playdoh43

you cant hear the turbos even if you try, they are silent. i tried hard to listen for it when i test drove it, couldnt hear anything. and the inline 6 dosnt exactly scream either, the exhaust sounds nice but its a very quite car.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

wait till you get a couple thousand miles on the clock, the intake opens up and you can hear that wonderful whistle ever so slightly before you're drowned in that 7000 rpm symphony. the test drive car isnt seasoned...these babies need to be broken in. its not very quiet from the outside btw.

playdoh43

im pretty sure it redlines around 6400ish
*nm seems i dont remember correctly, it does go to 7k