2021 IMSA WeatherTech Sports Car Championship Season Discussion
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INSERT NAME OF SPORT __________________ was once a great sport but now has to be one of the most pointless endeavors on earth. Accomplishments have been null in recent years and all I see is excess, extreme privilege, gross waste, continued pollution, etc. It's incredibly sad, especially in the way it's gloried.
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"racing is about the superiority of a nation / nationalistic efforts. "
What? Are you ok mate? Time attack is nationalistic? Everything can be used for nationalistic propaganda.
Behind the metals there are people, Mazda is one of the last independent motor companies, a family of sorts. Racing progressed automobility. Anyway, I think you are wrong in this one.
What? Are you ok mate? Time attack is nationalistic? Everything can be used for nationalistic propaganda.
Behind the metals there are people, Mazda is one of the last independent motor companies, a family of sorts. Racing progressed automobility. Anyway, I think you are wrong in this one.
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Mazda takes pole for Mid-Ohio, just under a tenth faster than WTR Acura.
What sport isn't pointless? Even though it produces its own problems in escalating costs, racing involves technological evolution.
You'll find most of the pollution comes from people traveling rather than the race cars driving around. Imagine how much pollution is made when people travel to watch grown men chase a ball around a field.
That was true up to the 1960s when cars had to be colored by country, but ever since big money got involved racing teams are international efforts.
Take F1, most of the teams are headquartered in England. The dominating team is for a German OEM with an English driver. The only American team has no American drivers.
I see nationalism raising its ugly head nowadays when it concerns a home track. Like when a non-American wins the Indy 500 or a French team at Le Mans.
You'll find most of the pollution comes from people traveling rather than the race cars driving around. Imagine how much pollution is made when people travel to watch grown men chase a ball around a field.
I'm sure this is not new news to anyone, but racing is about the superiority of a nation / nationalistic efforts. Not unlike the Olympics where the victor gets bragging rights, etc over a specific discipline. If we examine its' origins, you will see that the premise of 'which nation is greatest' is essentially rooted in racist ideologies.
Take F1, most of the teams are headquartered in England. The dominating team is for a German OEM with an English driver. The only American team has no American drivers.
I see nationalism raising its ugly head nowadays when it concerns a home track. Like when a non-American wins the Indy 500 or a French team at Le Mans.
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Jedi- Reading your posts makes me think you're some sort of ambassador for the company. Just me? I've never seen anyone grandstand so much over a few pieces of metal. If you are, could you just say so. You basically put a target on your back for me to question your intentions. There's a whole wide world out there to enjoy and experience, so why spend a day staring at the idiot-box?
Imo, racing was once a great sport but now has to be one of the most pointless endeavors on earth. Accomplishments have been null in recent years and all I see is excess, extreme privilege, gross waste, continued pollution, etc. It's incredibly sad, especially in the way it's gloried. I'm sure this is not new news to anyone, but racing is about the superiority of a nation / nationalistic efforts. Not unlike the Olympics where the victor gets bragging rights, etc over a specific discipline. If we examine its' origins, you will see that the premise of 'which nation is greatest' is essentially rooted in racist ideologies.
Food for thought, enjoy the circus.
Imo, racing was once a great sport but now has to be one of the most pointless endeavors on earth. Accomplishments have been null in recent years and all I see is excess, extreme privilege, gross waste, continued pollution, etc. It's incredibly sad, especially in the way it's gloried. I'm sure this is not new news to anyone, but racing is about the superiority of a nation / nationalistic efforts. Not unlike the Olympics where the victor gets bragging rights, etc over a specific discipline. If we examine its' origins, you will see that the premise of 'which nation is greatest' is essentially rooted in racist ideologies.
Food for thought, enjoy the circus.
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The silence speaks volumes Jedi, let alone allowing others to speak on your behalf. These are merely some words on a screen / internet (which isn't real anyways imo). I'm not tripping, you're free to entertain yourself however you see fit.
Rooting for any 'sport' has to be one of the most immature things a human being can do today imo. I'm not an impressionable child anymore and I choose to invest my time cultivating lifelong talents and skills instead of day-dreaming about meaningless bs, or to sell myself as an advertisement.
Life is short and it's best not to waste it idolizing the efforts of others. In turn, focus on what meaningful things you can achieve during your own lifetime.
Have a good day
Rooting for any 'sport' has to be one of the most immature things a human being can do today imo. I'm not an impressionable child anymore and I choose to invest my time cultivating lifelong talents and skills instead of day-dreaming about meaningless bs, or to sell myself as an advertisement.
Life is short and it's best not to waste it idolizing the efforts of others. In turn, focus on what meaningful things you can achieve during your own lifetime.
Have a good day
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For someone who seems so obsessed with reading my prior posts, you apparently missed mine from Friday saying I would be gone for a few days. Sorry Federighi, I must have somehow forgotten to run my vacation schedule past you before leaving Thurs.
As for others speaking for me: maybe you didn't read many of my posts after all because if you did you'd know I'm perfectly capable of addressing things myself.
you're so generous.
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I normally wouldn't respond to a post so off-topic but it appears you really wanted me to respond to this post so I'll indulge you.
Nope, not a 'brand ambassador'. Is that what the cool kids online would call an 'influencer'? Not one of those either but I am a guy who has been around Mazdas since the 80's, owned quite a few of them since, and am the Administrator for a forum completely dedicated to a particular Mazda so yes, I am a Mazda fan. Oh, and I also happen to be one of the head organizers for SevenStock.
Grandstanding? Hardly.
I give updates in this thread on Mazda's race program and results. Why? Because it's fun to root for people you know, I met Johh Doonan years ago, some of the drivers come out to SevenStock every year to drive the historics around the track during our Demo Session and friendships have been built over that time.
So that somehow puts a target on my back? Maybe for the uninformed it might but I seldom spend time worrying about them because as you said there's a whole world out there to enjoy.
And there is the beauty of this whole thing. You have your opinion on what you feel the current state of motorsports is and others have theirs. Is it truly about nationalism and it's racist ideologies for some of us or are we capable of simply enjoying a sporting event at face value.
Each is free to make their own choice and if interests align we have fun discussing it here.
Federighi, you seem to be one with some very strong opinions who tends to generalize and make lot of assumptions.
Don't get so worked up over how others spend their time, life's too short for that kind of thing.
I've never seen anyone grandstand so much over a few pieces of metal. If you are, could you just say so. You basically put a target on your back for me to question your intentions. There's a whole wide world out there to enjoy and experience, so why spend a day staring at the idiot-box?
I give updates in this thread on Mazda's race program and results. Why? Because it's fun to root for people you know, I met Johh Doonan years ago, some of the drivers come out to SevenStock every year to drive the historics around the track during our Demo Session and friendships have been built over that time.
So that somehow puts a target on my back? Maybe for the uninformed it might but I seldom spend time worrying about them because as you said there's a whole world out there to enjoy.
Imo, racing was once a great sport but now has to be one of the most pointless endeavors on earth. Accomplishments have been null in recent years and all I see is excess, extreme privilege, gross waste, continued pollution, etc. It's incredibly sad, especially in the way it's gloried. I'm sure this is not new news to anyone, but racing is about the superiority of a nation / nationalistic efforts. Not unlike the Olympics where the victor gets bragging rights, etc over a specific discipline. If we examine its' origins, you will see that the premise of 'which nation is greatest' is essentially rooted in racist ideologies.
Food for thought, enjoy the circus.
Food for thought, enjoy the circus.
Each is free to make their own choice and if interests align we have fun discussing it here.
Federighi, you seem to be one with some very strong opinions who tends to generalize and make lot of assumptions.
Don't get so worked up over how others spend their time, life's too short for that kind of thing.
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Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
I heard I missed one heck of a race this weekend. I haven't seen any of it other than the highlight video NBC sports put out but it seems like Mazda was running strong until that full course yellow changed everyone's strategy?
I heard I missed one heck of a race this weekend. I haven't seen any of it other than the highlight video NBC sports put out but it seems like Mazda was running strong until that full course yellow changed everyone's strategy?
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Pretty much, before the yellow flag they built an over 10 second lead.
The MSR Acura needing a splash and dash toward the end brought Mazda back to a podium finish.
Jarvis “Confident” of Win Had Race Stayed Green
The MSR Acura needing a splash and dash toward the end brought Mazda back to a podium finish.
Jarvis “Confident” of Win Had Race Stayed Green
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Well put and I didn't mean to irk you. This is an Internet forum after all.
I too have been around mazda for a long time, owned multiple rotaries and would find every opportunity to wave my 'under dog' team's flag proudly for all to see. This may be an overgeneralization but the average mazda 'fan' lives with their heads in the clouds imo and when I was young I used to be that way as well. That is until I grew up and realized my interests and efforts can be combined into something meaningful which will provide for my family with certainty for years to come (define that however you choose). But ultimately, I suppose boils down to a lack of comprehension on my part. I've certainly tried.
You, amongst others are correct that I should've exited myself from this thread some time ago. Exit stage left
I too have been around mazda for a long time, owned multiple rotaries and would find every opportunity to wave my 'under dog' team's flag proudly for all to see. This may be an overgeneralization but the average mazda 'fan' lives with their heads in the clouds imo and when I was young I used to be that way as well. That is until I grew up and realized my interests and efforts can be combined into something meaningful which will provide for my family with certainty for years to come (define that however you choose). But ultimately, I suppose boils down to a lack of comprehension on my part. I've certainly tried.
You, amongst others are correct that I should've exited myself from this thread some time ago. Exit stage left
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that's a pretty sweet move by Multimatic and a big win for IMSA. Those guys know how to run a program and build a solid chassis.
I want to see what an Audi LMDh is going to look like.
I want to see what an Audi LMDh is going to look like.
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With Leena Gade as the chief race engineer/manager, they'll be back on a roll again like the Audi days of domination. I'm wondering if Leena is permanently under employment by Multimatic.
Multimatic's continued push and success with Mazda even with the ending relationship certainly shows their professionalism.
Multimatic's continued push and success with Mazda even with the ending relationship certainly shows their professionalism.
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Permanence is never a given in motorsport but being with Multimatic is as close as it gets.
Now Bentley is rumored to be in LMDh.
It's another VAG brand, so I wonder how the powertrain will be different from Porsche and Audi. The article says they're consideration is because 2024 is the 100th anniversary of their first Le Mans win.
I know the goal is to have LMDh and LMH on the same track, but the FIA/ACO haven't homologated LMDh yet, so if Bentley is aiming for Le Mans I would think they would be planning an LMH.
Now Bentley is rumored to be in LMDh.
It's another VAG brand, so I wonder how the powertrain will be different from Porsche and Audi. The article says they're consideration is because 2024 is the 100th anniversary of their first Le Mans win.
I know the goal is to have LMDh and LMH on the same track, but the FIA/ACO haven't homologated LMDh yet, so if Bentley is aiming for Le Mans I would think they would be planning an LMH.
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so the LMDh class could end up with:
so the LMDh class could end up with:
- Audi
- Porsche
- Bentley
- Lamborghini (announcement expected soon)
- Acura
- Cadillac - My guess is they don't renew
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Well this is nice to see:
I always enjoyed being able to walk through the paddock at Long Beach and getting to see the cars up close and interacting with the teams as it adds another fun element to the overall experience. I'm glad to see fans being allowed back in and hopefully this means we can start getting back to normal.
Fans to Return to IMSA Paddock at Detroit
Fans to return to IMSA paddock for Chevrolet SportsCar Classic at Detroit Belle Isle…
Fans will return to the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship paddock for the first time since the start of last year during next month’s round at Detroit Belle Isle.
The organizers of the Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix presented by Lear announced on Tuesday that paddock access will be granted to spectators in accordance with Michigan’s lifting of coronavirus restrictions on outdoor venues from June 1.
The paddock area, where teams prepare their cars, will be open to all ticket holders.
The organizers of the Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix presented by Lear announced on Tuesday that paddock access will be granted to spectators in accordance with Michigan’s lifting of coronavirus restrictions on outdoor venues from June 1.
The paddock area, where teams prepare their cars, will be open to all ticket holders.
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Race weekend is here!
Cars should be rolling in I believe tomorrow for the Belle Isle race on Saturday and honestly at this point it's still anyone's championship to win.
This has been a fun season so far because I think IMSA really has the cars more or less dialed in and we're seeing competitive races all around. Will GM continue their winning streak in detroit? Probably but who knows, the Acura looks really strong
Anyone going to be watching Saturday?
I won't be watching live as I have some plans already for Saturday (working on my RX-8) but hoping to catch the full race replay on Sunday
Cars should be rolling in I believe tomorrow for the Belle Isle race on Saturday and honestly at this point it's still anyone's championship to win.
This has been a fun season so far because I think IMSA really has the cars more or less dialed in and we're seeing competitive races all around. Will GM continue their winning streak in detroit? Probably but who knows, the Acura looks really strong
Anyone going to be watching Saturday?
I won't be watching live as I have some plans already for Saturday (working on my RX-8) but hoping to catch the full race replay on Sunday
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and now BMW is jumping into the ring
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BMW has been so good for so long in the GT ranks, I'm excited to see them building a Prototype to compete with the teams above.
So we're at 4 confirmed Manufacturers (Audi, Acura, Porsche, BMW)
Still waiting to hear from Cadillac and Lamborghini
BMW Confirms LMDh Program for 2023
BMW M CEO Markus Flasch reveals manufacturer’s top level prototype comeback…Full Story
BMW has confirmed that it will enter the LMDh ranks with an expected global sports car racing program beginning in 2023.
Revealed in a Instagram post by BMW M CEO Markus Flasch on Thursday, the German manufacturer has yet to make an official release detailing the extent of the program, other than Flasch indicating that it will begin at the 2023 Rolex 24 at Daytona.
As revealed by Sportscar365 in March, BMW had been evaluating the new joint ACO-IMSA top class platform, with Flasch telling journalists during last weekend’s Nürburgring 24 that he’s a “strong believer” that there’s room on top of its existing sports car racing programs for LMDh.
“It’s not up to just me to decide this,” Flasch said last week. “That’s why I can’t promise anything.
“But I didn’t take on the responsibility just to administrate the current status.
“We are looking into other formats and there will be decisions quite soon. I know where we come from. I know where our roots are. I am a strong believer that there is room on top of GT3.”
BMW’s expected factory entry into the top class of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship will likely result in a return to the 24 Hours of Le Mans and a possible full-season FIA World Endurance Championship campaign as well.
It last contested top-class sports car racing in 2000 with the BMW V12 LMR (pictured above) in the American Le Mans Series and won Le Mans overall with the same car one year earlier.
BMW will join already-announced LMDh programs from Acura, Audi and Porsche, along with the expected imminent confirmation of Cadillac in the LMP2-based platform.
Revealed in a Instagram post by BMW M CEO Markus Flasch on Thursday, the German manufacturer has yet to make an official release detailing the extent of the program, other than Flasch indicating that it will begin at the 2023 Rolex 24 at Daytona.
As revealed by Sportscar365 in March, BMW had been evaluating the new joint ACO-IMSA top class platform, with Flasch telling journalists during last weekend’s Nürburgring 24 that he’s a “strong believer” that there’s room on top of its existing sports car racing programs for LMDh.
“It’s not up to just me to decide this,” Flasch said last week. “That’s why I can’t promise anything.
“But I didn’t take on the responsibility just to administrate the current status.
“We are looking into other formats and there will be decisions quite soon. I know where we come from. I know where our roots are. I am a strong believer that there is room on top of GT3.”
BMW’s expected factory entry into the top class of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship will likely result in a return to the 24 Hours of Le Mans and a possible full-season FIA World Endurance Championship campaign as well.
It last contested top-class sports car racing in 2000 with the BMW V12 LMR (pictured above) in the American Le Mans Series and won Le Mans overall with the same car one year earlier.
BMW will join already-announced LMDh programs from Acura, Audi and Porsche, along with the expected imminent confirmation of Cadillac in the LMP2-based platform.
So we're at 4 confirmed Manufacturers (Audi, Acura, Porsche, BMW)
Still waiting to hear from Cadillac and Lamborghini
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Cadillac led the charts this morning in the initial practice session which wasn't very fast due to this being the first time in 2 years any race cars have run on those streets. Mazda took it easy, think they were 5th out of the 6 DPi cars
2nd (and Final) practice saw the times comes down further and Cadillac went 1-2-3 in pretty dominant fashion
2nd (and Final) practice saw the times comes down further and Cadillac went 1-2-3 in pretty dominant fashion
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Magnussen Scores First IMSA Pole in Detroit
Kevin Magnussen scores first IMSA pole in red-flag shortened Detroit qualifying…Story by John Dagys
Kevin Magnussen has scored his first career IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship pole in qualifying for Saturday’s Chevrolet Sports Car Classic at Detroit’s Belle Isle.
The Dane, in only his fourth sports car race, reeled off a 1:20.031 lap in the No. 01 Chip Ganassi Racing Cadillac DPi-V.R to edge out the No. 55 Mazda RT24-P of Harry Tincknell by 0.021 seconds.
The 15-minute session ended early following an accident by Tristan Vautier in the No. 5 JDC-Miller Motorsports Cadillac with five minutes to go.
Vautier lost control of his car before making side contact with the barriers. He attempted to bring the car back to the pits but stopped on track.
As a result, the Frenchman lost his quickest qualifying lap and will start fifth in the six-car DPi field.
Pipo Derani qualified third in the No. 31 Action Express Racing Cadillac followed by the No. 10 Wayne Taylor Racing Acura ARX-05 of Ricky Taylor in fourth.
The No. 60 Meyer Shank Racing Acura DPi of Olivier Pla again brought up the rear, nearly 1.5 seconds slower than pole-sitter Magnussen.
The Dane, in only his fourth sports car race, reeled off a 1:20.031 lap in the No. 01 Chip Ganassi Racing Cadillac DPi-V.R to edge out the No. 55 Mazda RT24-P of Harry Tincknell by 0.021 seconds.
The 15-minute session ended early following an accident by Tristan Vautier in the No. 5 JDC-Miller Motorsports Cadillac with five minutes to go.
Vautier lost control of his car before making side contact with the barriers. He attempted to bring the car back to the pits but stopped on track.
As a result, the Frenchman lost his quickest qualifying lap and will start fifth in the six-car DPi field.
Pipo Derani qualified third in the No. 31 Action Express Racing Cadillac followed by the No. 10 Wayne Taylor Racing Acura ARX-05 of Ricky Taylor in fourth.
The No. 60 Meyer Shank Racing Acura DPi of Olivier Pla again brought up the rear, nearly 1.5 seconds slower than pole-sitter Magnussen.
yikes, haven't seen too many shortened qualifying sessions lately so happy to hear the Mazda wasn't the one sustaining damage.
Cadillac is fast but looks like Mazda got the car dialed in because that's a pretty slim margin between the two lead cars. Not sure what's going on with the Meyer Shank team because they haven't had the pace at any point today.
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first time this season Mazda doesn't land on the podium.
any particular issues the team had? I tried to watch the replay of it yesterday with my NBC sports app subscription but it wasn't yet showing as an available replay.
any particular issues the team had? I tried to watch the replay of it yesterday with my NBC sports app subscription but it wasn't yet showing as an available replay.
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With the first corner so close to the start line, Tincknell wasn't able to build up speed and was demoted to 4th before the first lap was run.
He was able to get back to 3rd halfway, but had to pit. Jarvis got close to overtaking the WTR Acura for 3rd by the end.
He was able to get back to 3rd halfway, but had to pit. Jarvis got close to overtaking the WTR Acura for 3rd by the end.
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Mazda Given BoP Break for Watkins Glen
Mazda DPi gets power increaseJohn Dagys
The Mazda RT24-P has been given a power increase ahead of next weekend’s Sahlen’s Six Hours of The Glen, as part of the latest round of Balance of Performance adjustments confirmed by IMSA.
Released on Friday, the Multimatic-built DPi will gain roughly 4.8 horsepower through all power levels for the fifth round of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship.
The pairing of Harry Tincknell and Oliver Jarvis currently sit second in the points race, 71 points behind leaders Ricky Taylor and Filipe Albuquerque of Wayne Taylor Racing.
The Mazda is coming off its first non-podium finish of the season last time out in Detroit
Both the Acura ARX-05 and Cadillac DPi.V-R have received minor fuel capacity reductions, with the Acura DPi losing 1 liter and the Cadillac 2 liters down from the configuration most recently run on the streets of Belle Isle.
No fuel adjustments have been made to the Mazda, despite the power increase.
Released on Friday, the Multimatic-built DPi will gain roughly 4.8 horsepower through all power levels for the fifth round of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship.
The pairing of Harry Tincknell and Oliver Jarvis currently sit second in the points race, 71 points behind leaders Ricky Taylor and Filipe Albuquerque of Wayne Taylor Racing.
The Mazda is coming off its first non-podium finish of the season last time out in Detroit
Both the Acura ARX-05 and Cadillac DPi.V-R have received minor fuel capacity reductions, with the Acura DPi losing 1 liter and the Cadillac 2 liters down from the configuration most recently run on the streets of Belle Isle.
No fuel adjustments have been made to the Mazda, despite the power increase.
Every little bit helps!
The cars are very well balanced this year but at Belle Isle you could tell Mazda was lacking a little oomph.
this could make the next race quite interesting.