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Old 08-20-2015, 10:50 AM
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Matt, there is a TSB on all the noises (wind etc) on the Series 1 GJ Mazda 6, and definitely for Europe.
Here is a TSB copy in English, print a copy and get your car done, Mazda Europe must do the repair for you as the TSB includes Europe and North America (from June , 2015).
TSB is from MMC Japan.

Complain to your dealer and quote the TSB Number R053/14B or take in a copy.

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While driving at 60 km/h or more, some vehicles may exhibit a wind noise which is heard around the front part of the front door (around power outer mirror base).
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The wind noise may occur when air is passing through minimal gaps between the parts at the front door front edge and the corresponding body panel.
MASS PRODUCTION CHANGE
Configuration of the front beltline molding and other respective parts have been changed to narrow the gaps between the door and the body panel.

Matt, the replacement new Parts in this TSB are also modified to use the same used in current Series 2 GJ Mazda 6 Parts.

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thanks a lot Ash, my inquiry at the shop was done in May, at that time probably there was not a TSB for Europe.

the problem is definitely this one ,everything complains. if you don't have the radio on is a bit annoying on long courses
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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
So the CX-3 is a little more expensive than a Mazda3 hatch, has less power/tq, much less interior space, less MPGs, not available with a manual, will never have the 2.5l, and people are getting crazy about them? I don't get it.

I rather have a 2.5, manual Mazda3 hatch. The ONLY thing missing would be the awd...
Basically the CX-3 is for those who love the 'ride height or short asses (no offence to those vertically challenged)..
Until you have actually been in one they are a very small mode of transport, they are a Mazda 2.
IMO the appeal is for singles...girls mainly and the small family maybe, but you will quickly grow out of it...perhaps a great 3rd car (for the kids).

2 month wait for new CX-3, in some specs almost a 3 month waiting list in Australia....so the same will be the case in US...all come from the same plant.
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All New CX-9 caught out testing in US..see vid..

Naughty boys, where is the cammo?, this should not happen when the concept has not even been released at Frankfurt MS.
And yeah, I know it is a bit muley.


2017 Mazda CX-9 spied virtually undisguised [video]
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Thanks again ASH8, you are the man !
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New US Scion sedan is actually a Mazda 2 !! First product of new Toyota/Mazda venture

2016 Scion iA Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

Hey folks , this is how US folks can get their hands on a Mazda 2. The NEW Scion sedan is a Mazda 2 ! This helps explain why no Mazda 2 in US Mazda dealerships. I am sure this was part of the deal with Toyota not be to competing with the similar car.

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Hey GW...this is old news mate

https://www.rx8club.com/general-auto...-plant-257663/



Mazda 2 Sedan has just gone on-sale in Australia too, this one is Made in Mazda's Thailand plant which makes the RWD cars for UK too and BT-50/Rangers and Mazda 2 hatchbacks an some Mazda 3.

All-New Mazda2 Sedan ? Overview | Mazda Australia

The Mazda is way better looking up front grille, IMO.
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I had missed this item before, ASH8, sorry mate. LOL
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Hey GW...this is old news mate

https://www.rx8club.com/general-auto...-plant-257663/



Mazda 2 Sedan has just gone on-sale in Australia too, this one is Made in Mazda's Thailand plant which makes the RWD cars for UK too and BT-50/Rangers and Mazda 2 hatchbacks an some Mazda 3.

All-New Mazda2 Sedan ? Overview | Mazda Australia

The Mazda is way better looking up front grille, IMO.
You should give us the part numbers we need to convert the nose over to the Mazda 2, and we can have the right car. Prices, too.

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BTW, for those worrying about the Turbo 4 CX-9 being under powered, check out the new Volvo XC90. Twin charged 4 cyl, 7 passenger luxury barge... 0-60 in 6.1 seconds. It's not surprise that Mazda is jumping onto the engine undersizing bandwagon, as with nearly every (if not all) manufacturers.
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Thanks, I did see the new Volvo XC90...

It concerns me 'overall' that Mazda Japan has not invested in any V6 for the future....none

And I will still sit on the fence with a 2.5 4 Turbo carrying a capacity of 3500lbs PLUS passenger weight (7)., the PWR fully loaded is cringe worthy.
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Mazda CX3 wins Car and Driver comparison

Small SUVs Compared: Mazda CX-3 vs. Fiat 500X, Honda HR-V, Jeep Renegade, Chevrolet Trax, Kia Soul ? Comparison Test ? Car and Driver

One quote from the article: "It’s this insistence on perfection in all things big and small that gives the CX-3 the win; its maker’s sixth straight comparison-test victory. We’re witnessing the birth of a new dominant species all right—not necessarily the subcompact crossover, but Mazda. "

This is the car that US Mazda dealers want to sell, not the Mazda 2. It has a higher profit margin, and fits better into American car buying bias towards SUVs of any size.

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i read that out loud to my wife yesterday when i read the article
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It is a real pity that Mazda sales in the USA are still very poor...

Almost every other world market for Mazda product is seeing double digit growth with their new range of all new Skyactiv Mazda's, all except the USA.

In the meantime MMC continues with a Management structure in NA which does not deliver results.

IF they can not do it now they never will....
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Hey ASH8 you are a smart. knowledgeable car person. The US market is very different from any other country or region in the world. In the US the native manufacturers Ford,GM and Chrysler (though Fiat owned) still account for the largest total share of the US market. Americans buy cars from all countries but still (brand wise) overall buy more cars from native US manufacturers. Mazda traditionally started in this country decades ago with very small dealerships and never invested in huge infrastructure and advertising like the big Japanese makers Honda, Toyota and Nissan. Now joining them as a dominant Asian manufacturer selling in the US has been the Korean duo of Hyundai and Kia, again with more money to spend here than Mazda.

In the rest of the world Mazda is closer to a native manufacturer, like in your Asian/Australian Market. In Europe and the rest of the world American cars don't sell as well as the European and Asian brands which are the native brands ,and American brands have been legally limited to the amount of market penetration and sales they are allowed. The US has fewer restrictions on foreign car sales here, so foreign car companies build here, and additionally can sell all they choose to import here . Mazda has smaller manufacturing capacity than its rivals, and has chosen to limit the number of cars they build and sell in this continent, and limit what models they bring to the US, in order to sell more cars elsewhere in the world.

One example of the difference in preferences of the US car buying public, VW doesn't sell very well right now in the US market , yet worldwide they surpassed Toyota this year to become the World's top selling cars. For the past two months US total car sales overtook China to be #1 market again, first time since 2009. If you look at Mazda's US sales they are about even (slightly down 0.4 percent for the 2015 year vs 2014 year). 2014 was a record year for Mazda sales in the US. Yet the real picture is that Mazda sales in the US are higher now than they were before they introduced the Skyactive cars. I expected them to continue to do well in their niche with the cars they have coming out.

It has been surveyed and noted that American car buyers are heavily biased now to buy SUVs of any size , due to our lifestyle choices ,and also now that gas prices have fallen dramatically in the US. That is one reason the Mazda dealers here want the CX-3 small SUV to sell instead of the Mazda 2, which did not sell well the one year it was sold in the US .This is also why in the US, the CX-5 outsells the Mazda 6, even though both have garnered much acclaim and awards. In other parts of the old and new world, higher gas prices ,smaller streets and roads ,and tougher parking situations along with cost factors, tend to spur car buyers toward smaller ,more efficient and more affordable vehicles, so consequentially Mazda SHOULD do better with its Skyactiv cars in these markets.

June 2015 YTD U.S. Vehicle Sales Rankings - Top 279 Best-Selling Vehicles In America - Every Vehicle Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

Monthly Sales Table -- Automotive News

http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...ast-two-months

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Hey Ash8,

Honestly, with Mazda allowing for it's market share to increase the way it is right now, it is drawing in the buyers who will give Mazda a good chance, and are not the average American car buyer. These are not the average typical car buyer, these are the quasi-enthusiast buyers.

These buyers are the ones who are most likely to have really good, positive experiences, buy multiple cars from the same manufacturer, and will bring family and friends into the brand when they start shopping for a new vehicle.

Yes, it means for slower sales growth, but Mazda has been increasing its share of the pie with every new month since the release of the previous gen Mazda 3 and it's initial SkyActiv engines, and shortly afterwards with the release of the CX-5.

Now that the lineup has been fully ramped up, and all the vehicles have been switched over to the Kodo design, we're going to see how sales do. Every product Mazda sells here in the US is a good one. They all look sharp, and drive very well, exceeding all of their competitors, and, most importantly, aren't having huge growing pains with warranty repairs.

Hyundai's path to its current sales volume involved being the cheapest vehicles available to the US buyer, so you wound up with owners who could barely afford a car, and were less likely to maintain it properly, so they had worse reliability stats than they probably should have. Once they started adding in the long warranty coverage, then they started getting a different buyer segment, which increased their sales to a higher level. And just a few years ago, they started increasing the premium content levels of their cars, which brought in several other types of buyers in the US market. Finally, to top it all off, they increased the quality of the interiors, and now you have what they are today, a decent car company.

Hyundai, of course, has nearly unlimited funds due to its parent corporation, and the fact that it's majority owner of Kia, which has really been an astonishing turn around for a car company, since its day's of working with Ford. Hyundai releases their car first, then Kia releases a version of it the next year, and makes a few improvements. And, Kia has the Soul, which sells a crap ton every year in the small SUV space that they have had all to themselves for such a long time.

Mazda's on the right path, it's just a very slow path.

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You can pull out sale stats for the past 10 years and Mazda in the USA has basically been stagnate.

EVERY other Japanese brand apart from Mitsubishi and Suzuki has had massive growth over the past 40 years.

Yes so much comes back to marketing, but if you have 65% of Dealers who have questionable objectives and sales performances then the end result will always be poor.

How long do we keep making excuses, even Mazda in Europe has seen growth of over 10%.
And Europe is an economic basket case apart from Germany.

Mazda in North America is Mazda's most important market as they sell more units there than anywhere else, however grosses are not great, as is the net profit.

When you have upper management approving woeful marketing campaigns for new models then the results are woeful.

Yes they are getting better, but, how long do you stay with a Management team which does not get the results.

5 Years ago Subaru in USA was level with Mazda (now they are doing double the units, month after month and year).
THE Subaru product is an average one at best, BUT their Dealer structure is light years ahead of Mazda in US.
This come from a ex Mazda Parts guy (Jason Baggie) who was well know for Mazda parts and onlinemazdaparts.com for close to 15 years.
He now manages a genuine US Subaru Parts dealership and I believe his version of the comparison between the two brands...he has actually lived (worked) it.

Mazda in USA is run by a bunch of lazy has-beens' who IMO (and others) does not have the best interest of the brand they work for...There are always excuses as to why and how.
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For a friendly foreigner you have a lot of pent up hate for Mazda NA, wow ! America is a market with unique state by state buyer demographics, competitions and differences in car culture, habits and market forces you just don't have in Australia and other parts of the world and smaller countries. If Mazda wanted a different management team and direction, and more money spent in the US market, they could have done so over the decades. It is ridiculous to put all your blame on Mazda NA and none on Hiroshima. If this market is so important and big for Mazda then Hiroshima should step in and change things if they are not satisfied with it like you .Unless you have lived here and been a part of the American car scene and culture for decades you will never grasp or understand the accurate points that Bladecutter and I make , so it is useless for us to continue to educate you on this, sorry mate !

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I agree with Ash on this point:
"5 Years ago Subaru in USA was level with Mazda (now they are doing double the units, month after month and year).
THE Subaru product is an average one at best, BUT their Dealer structure is light years ahead of Mazda in US."

The marketing is improving but still not where it needs to be. "DRIVING MATTERS". Really? Is this the best we can do? i have slogans in my back pocket that make more sense, relate more to the existing and potential buyers and connect both the Japan and US mindset.

I still think the future is bright for Mazda in world markets, including the USA.

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Paul I have no issue with what you are saying. But in advertising as well as retail you get back what you invest. If Mazda corporate has not chosen to change their investment and advertising in this their largest market, then that is NOT all on the shoulders of Mazda NA. Just as Hiroshima makes their strategies for other parts of the world marketplace, it has a great part in what happens with developing and promoting their dealerships and products in America. ASH8 seems to put all the blame on Mazda NA. Subaru spends much more than Mazda in the US marketplace,always has. How do I know this. As a longtime journalist with the Philadelphia Inquirer I have done stories over the years with the Subaru folks at their nearby US headquarters in Cherry,Hill, NJ where they proudly disclosed their aggressive strategies to push their product and dealerships forward in the marketplace.

Subaru in the United States

Subaru of America was established in 1968 in Philadelphia by Malcolm Bricklin and Harvey Lamm. It relocated to Pennsauken, New Jersey shortly thereafter and moved to its current headquarters in Cherry Hill, New Jersey when Fuji Heavy Industries acquired full ownership. Subaru of America operates Regional offices, Zone offices and Parts Distribution Centers throughout the United States. Subaru of America also operates Port Facilities on both the West and East coasts.[10]

In 1989 Subaru and then-partner Isuzu opened a joint factory in Lafayette, Indiana called Subaru-Isuzu Automotive, Inc. or SIA, which initially manufactured the Subaru Legacy and Isuzu Rodeo. In 2001 Isuzu sold their stake in the plant to FHI for $1 due to flagging sales and it was renamed Subaru of Indiana Automotive, Inc. SIA has been designated a backyard wildlife Habitat by the National Wildlife Federation and has achieved a zero-landfill production designation (the first automotive assembly plant in the United States to earn that designation).[10]

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Bricklin... I've known people who owned those



i used to know where there was an orange one and a green one. havent seen them in a decade
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I know lots of ppl buy domestic cars, and Ford when they still owned Mazda, they put Mazda into some 2nd tier joke and made Mazda look like they are worst than Suzuki.

Now Ford is out, but those guys at MNAO still runs the company like they were under Ford.

totally pathetic.
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Back on topic.

I thought this thing was getting revealed at the Frankfurt Autoshow today?
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show opens tomorrow Koeru concept and possibly a Mazdaspeed 3...
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show opens tomorrow Koeru concept and possibly a Mazdaspeed 3...
Wow...where this rumor come from?

maybe is too early, MS3 probably will come with the midlife cycle refreshment of Mazda 3
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From Paddock Talk

One look at the Mazda KOERU reveals the qualities of KODO design - the power and vitality of a wild animal.

Focusing on the expression of refined dignity, Mazda has imparted the KOERU with awe-inspiring proportions and an intriguing form that hints of a Japanese aesthetic.

The outcome is an evolution of the KODO design theme adapted to the crossover vehicle.

Given a stronger presence than ever before, the Signature Wing is expressive of unwavering determination, whilst the LED guiding rings evoke the bright, strong-willed eyes of an untamed animal.

A tight canopy and a modulating body generate a sense of speed and volume, creating a unique presence that sets the Mazda KOERU apart from existing crossover offerings.

Highlights on the front and rear fenders extend towards the large wheels, suggesting powerful legs pounding the earth.
pics Mazda Koeru SUV revealed in Frankfurt - pictures | Auto Express










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