Steiner

Sounds like somebody is bringing their frustrations from another thread into this one. I'm sorry that Ike got under your skin but this isn't the place to vent. The fact of the matter is that an Evo outhandles an RX-8. The RX-8 absolutely has the Evo beat in many categories but handling is not one of them. I'm sorry. There are plenty of cars that will outhandle an Evo. Would it make life easier for you if I brought those up too?

delhi

Hahaha.... u're funny. Us evo owners must stick together....

Revvittupp

What is your basis of stating so matter of factly that the EVO handles better. I would never consider a car that has the predominant characteristic to understeer as being a superior handline car to such a balanced car as the 8.

Please enlighten me...

Steiner

Point A to B...any track...any surface...any altitude. If you still want to argue here's the place to do it. Delhi already shat on another one of my threads and I doubt the OP wants him to hijack his as well. This debate has nothing to do with anything...

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=Evo

delhi

speaking of shat..... mmkay. You want ketchup with your shoe?

dillsrotary

nothing wrong with debating cars, looks, data, etc. But posting in this^ nature will only lower the already low opinion that people have of you. If you have a valid point about the subject matter of a previous post then by all means post your original thoughts. But if you are posting simply to stir others feelings then choose another forum because here it will do nothing but make you look childish.....

Steiner

Ever play connect the dots when you were a kid?

Revvittupp

While not trying to Hijack this thread... sorry it's a lost cause anyways... but I found nothing concrete their besides differing opinions. I wouldn't take someone's word when it differs from what I have experienced, unless that individual showed me enough evidence to show that I was perceiving things incorrectly. Faster times around a racetrack does not a better handling car make, especially with the GIANT differnces in power between the cars.

dillsrotary

^^ though I do in some ways agree with you revvittupp, I do believe that a race track is one of the ways to produce actual data in regards to a car (in terms of time around the track.) Though tires do play a major role, a track test is a pretty good way to determine one cars handling over another.

Revvittupp

I'll agree that it's "pretty good" and one of the better measures, better then lateral grip, but it's not perfect. If from point A to B there is no throttle, for either car, then it is down to only handling, tires and brakes... But how many A-B segments won't involve throttle on either car? Short of simulated video overlay of the two cars with equal drivers on a short windy course, I'd say it's hard to prove as factual. Even at that point I think you'd find most, all or potentially even more then all fo the time seperating the tow cars on a small windy course would be after turn exit, prior to turn in, I.e. when the power matters. Perhaps lap times, with equal drivers, with a modded RX8 so that it has a similar Torque number at 3k would be a fair measure, if on stock wheels, tires and suspension.

delhi

Yeah, like joining another car forum purely to post how superior my car is over theirs? Yes got it.

So someone posted that the EVO handles better than a WRX almost like an RX-8 and you feel the need to point out that the evo out handles the rx-8. So what does it has to do with your initial post on the OP's question? It didn't add it to it other than trying to reinforce some sort of EVO superiority over an RX-8 in an RX-8 forum. Incidentally I did not deny.
To take it even further on the previous thread, I never once mention against the STi nor EVO's handling prowess instead pointing out that their utter efficiency in dispatching curves no longer illicit driving satisfaction for me compared to a classical RWD car and somehow the comment prompted some panty twistings.... makes you go hmm on who is insecure.

Let's take this to PM for further discussion.

shaunv74

I am assuming he can't find a relatively new Evo for 16-17K that hasn't been pummeled so...moving on...

There's always the Neon SRT-4 or....wait for it....wait for it...The CROSSFIRE!!

9291150

Me too!

shaunv74

moving on....

Steiner

That's sorta what I'm thinking. It's not the most beautiful or most prestigious horse in the stable but the ACR version of the SRT--4 is really an incredible vehicle when you consider the price and the performance both in the twisties and in a straight line and the kind of high priced company it can keep on the track...

http://www.richkraus.com/cars/MPH_article.html

Spinning Sushi

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Mini Cooper S?

Revvittupp

The SRT-4 gets more flack then it should.
I remember the ride and drive from when it was first released, the 230hp version and I was AMAZED at the torque the thing had. I was just a little less amazed at how well it handled and broke(past tense of Brake, not break). It may be one of the least imaginitive interiors, with now rear power windows, and it may look like a boyracer version of an economy box, but it moves.

Spinning Sushi

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MmmMmMm... turbo'd Neons are yummy.

ayodog

srt4's can actually handle windy roads ? I guess my image of all the kids street racing them is stuck in my head along with the dodge emblem.

Crossfire, lol its sad how horrible the depreciation is on those cars.

I brought up gti/wrx/rsx/si to my parents and they really want me to get rsx or si.

Mainly SI since insurance is lower and i think i'll be willing to spend upwards of 18k so i can save some money on insurance. Why do people steal integras sooo much =[

Thx for all the info from the first 2 pages.. iono what you all are talking about now. Sadly the civic forums are probably the worst of any car. Not sure how i'm going to learn about it if i pick one up z.z

wish parents would allow an 8, but i guess i'll have to wait till i'm in my mid 20's for a nice rotary like everyone else.

again ty, and the thread can be closed if administrators feel necessary.

Revvittupp

When the new Civic SI came first came out, I drove it and was left COMPLETELY underwhelmed.

delhi

Cobalt SS. That Dodge wagon that has the neon turbo engine whatchamacallit. Or you are a JDM kinda fella?

ayodog

I'm a bit of a JDM fellah due to the aftermarket, social issue of it, and that they're reliable as well as most likely to handle better. ( reliability and handling might be incorrect and i may just be brainwashed )

I live by canyons and windy roads which leads me away from the majority of domestics as well.

delhi

I wonder how much does the NB Mazdaspeed Miata go for these days. They are turbo so even an increase to 200hp will make this little car go real quick.

Steiner

To clarify a little, the normal SRT-4 doesn't handle that well. For the most part it's a straightline rocket on a budget. But in 2005 Dodge released a limited edition version of the SRT-4 called the ACR. Same engine and same transmission but new suspension, new wheels, a lowered stance and some other goodies that made it a potent little track-day mauler.

BTW...I just did a quick search on cars.com and found one with about 40k miles for $18k...

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true

Rootski

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Have fun insuring those!